EPTOn January 14 2016 18:30 Azarkon wrote:
Imagine that with a support/middle that does a lot of damage...
Imagine that with a support/middle that does a lot of damage...
Yep. Replace tusk with something else
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DucK-
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Yep. Replace tusk with something else | ||
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Taf the Ghost
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Shergal
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Kipsate
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anyway LGD can do whatever the fuck they want whereas Alliance tournament live is on the line. with that win Spirit is out too That leaves Fnatic, EG and Alliance fighting for 2nd and 3rd place. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On January 14 2016 18:32 Shergal wrote: The thing with Pudge is as the hero gets more popular it loses its value as a pocket pick. It worked in 2012, not so much in 2016. Navi didn't integrate the hero into a stable lineup, they just hoped to cheese lgd off. It still works fine as a support pick, and that's the way it's actually used even in public games. | ||
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shad2810
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mutantmagnet
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Azarkon
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cloudstr
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On January 14 2016 18:27 Kuroeeah wrote: So what is Na'Vi's issue? They still suck and has sucked since ti4 with Puppey and Kuro's departure. Is it Dendi? Is artstyle not a strong leader? There's a couple of constants here. Dendi can't play any of the popular farming mids or ganking mids or teamfighting mids very well (or at least can't convert into net worth with any of them). It's hard to win games when your mid player is generally multiple thousands of gold behind the enemy mid player | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On January 14 2016 18:29 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: Both I think? Their ingame calls seem fine, but their individual skill as well as their drafts just aren't up there. Do you really like their ingame calls? I feel that after the first 2 ganks and minute 12-15 they are absolutely clueless. They can't close out games, their fights lack that tiny bit of coordination that can win you a game. If Sonneiko creates a huge enough lead Ditya-Ra can take over later on. With the old, seemingly hard to captain core mostly gone, I'd really like another captain for that team who's more solid individually or has ppy-level brains. Why, as others mentioned, Dendi didn't switch to offlane which should mostly fit his heropool and playstyle much better is beyond me. | ||
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Kuroeeah
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On January 14 2016 18:29 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: Both I think? Their ingame calls seem fine, but their individual skill as well as their drafts just aren't up there. I've watched enough games where I consider them already passed the point of ever being eligible of becoming a top8 team. I'm just thinking to myself if I were the Na'Vi organization trying to grasp straws at what the next lineup would be looking like. | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3789 Posts
On January 14 2016 18:33 Kipsate wrote: if you have 3 losses ur out I believe so Navi rip anyway LGD can do whatever the fuck they want whereas Alliance tournament live is on the line. with that win Spirit is out too That leaves Fnatic, EG and Alliance fighting for 2nd and 3rd place. Alliance are against EG and LGD. They've already been thrown into a grave. The two teams simply need to pour on the dirt in time. | ||
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Shergal
Argentina1191 Posts
On January 14 2016 18:33 Azarkon wrote: It still works fine as a support pick, and that's the way it's actually used even in public games. But that's the thing, Pudge now is just another hero you hope to integrate into a lineup and do well with. It's not a "gotcha!" out of nowhere pick that works purely from psychological value, and that's what Navi seemed to pick the hero for. To be fair though, their drafts have been outdated all tournament so it's a wider issue. | ||
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Azarkon
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trollcenter
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On January 14 2016 18:27 Kuroeeah wrote: So what is Na'Vi's issue? They still suck and has sucked since ti4 with Puppey and Kuro's departure. Is it Dendi? Is artstyle not a strong leader? There's a couple of constants here. I think almost all their captains (even Fng who's doing well now) after Puppey put too much accent on picking comfort heroes for their players, even if they couldn't build a strat that they can execute to the end with them. Perhaps it's Dendi being stubborn and requesting flashy heroes while the captain doesn't have enough authority, perhaps it's something else. But I often have the sense that their draft is mostly heroes that the players like put together instead of a carefully planned strategy. | ||
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
On January 14 2016 18:36 Vertical wrote: is DP starting to be a mandatory ban ala TI5 Leshrac ? I think Earth Spirit is more of a have to ban right now, the tier 1 teams already know how to use that hero so well. EG played DP vs LGD yesterday and did nothing with it. | ||
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