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[Shanghai Major] EU Qualifiers Playoffs Day 1

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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7048 Posts
January 09 2016 02:17 GMT
#1
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(Wiki)Shanghai Major 2016 European Main Qualifiers









AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
January 09 2016 10:11 GMT
#2
Vega vs TS draft has started. ODPixel is casting with Draskyl.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 11:13:31
January 09 2016 11:06 GMT
#3
i dont see how TS wins this game, between ember and np aghs* its impossible to push

edit: NP aghs, octarine and refresher
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
January 09 2016 11:22 GMT
#4
Iceberg what a god
bisu
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 09 2016 11:22 GMT
#5
dayum
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 11:27:20
January 09 2016 11:24 GMT
#6
pls just agree on a draw :[

edit: haha game over :D
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
January 09 2016 11:27 GMT
#7
On January 09 2016 20:06 Faruko wrote:
i dont see how TS wins this game, between ember and np aghs* its impossible to push

edit: NP aghs, octarine and refresher

well
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 09 2016 11:27 GMT
#8
Impressed spirit managed to win that

still #DeleteGyro
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
January 09 2016 11:28 GMT
#9
On January 09 2016 20:06 Faruko wrote:
i dont see how TS wins this game, between ember and np aghs* its impossible to push

edit: NP aghs, octarine and refresher

Well, now you've seen how they win
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
January 09 2016 11:31 GMT
#10
Nice win by TS , stepping it up when it matters , i wont mind seeing them qualify!
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 09 2016 11:46 GMT
#11
Here the total push line-up by Vega, that's so cancerous in pubs, let's see if it works in pro games as well
The Real Power~
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 09 2016 12:26 GMT
#12
What a stupid fight for Spirit to try take o-o
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
January 09 2016 12:26 GMT
#13
what an awful relocate
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
January 09 2016 12:27 GMT
#14
cis dota is back
FTD
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 09 2016 12:36 GMT
#15
some really questionable decision making from Spirit
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
January 09 2016 12:37 GMT
#16
40mins of farming to throw it all away in one fight..gj cis
FTD
Zeelah
Profile Joined September 2015
Ireland172 Posts
January 09 2016 12:38 GMT
#17
Too many kills fed by Io to the Lina.Its a difficult game obviously for a wisp but I felt those deaths really added up
♩♪♫ Stand In The Fire ♫♪♩
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
January 09 2016 12:44 GMT
#18
i feel like players still have to adjust to aether lense. players seem to be that little bit out of position more often than before and that leads to a lot of very sloppy looking deaths.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 09 2016 12:48 GMT
#19
That 2-hit needed to kill wards made rhasta so strong
The Real Power~
yookstah
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia655 Posts
January 09 2016 13:02 GMT
#20
I wanted to listen to a BTS then llamadownunder appeared

plzzzzzzzzzz

ODPIXEL SAVES THE DAY
"I'm saying that you are all the time aggressive. I say to you choose situations to be aggressive and not aggressive. I'm talking it" - Cooller
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 13:03:52
January 09 2016 13:02 GMT
#21
I dont see that tree doing anything. 15 minions hitting stuff ye armor will do much.

And tide/ember is pretty bad synergy. The ravage doesnt enable ember to do anything he wouldnt do anyway. Regardless of them being 5man ravaged, ember will stay back and sleight either way. With tide you want something who can move in and deal the damage during ravage, like Sven.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 13:19:38
January 09 2016 13:19 GMT
#22
On January 09 2016 22:02 yookstah wrote:
I wanted to listen to a BTS then llamadownunder appeared

plzzzzzzzzzz

ODPIXEL SAVES THE DAY


OD & Draskly best stream all day anyway. Perfect balance

These games less action than the NA Dota i fell asleep to last night zzz
lphwo
Profile Joined September 2011
Malaysia751 Posts
January 09 2016 13:19 GMT
#23
Haven't watched dota for some time.
4 kills in 13 mins.
What has happened to CIS dota?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 09 2016 13:22 GMT
#24
On January 09 2016 22:19 lphwo wrote:
Haven't watched dota for some time.
4 kills in 13 mins.
What has happened to CIS dota?


There were plenty of bloodbaths earlier in the qualies but this series has been sloooow
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
January 09 2016 13:22 GMT
#25
On January 09 2016 22:19 lphwo wrote:
Haven't watched dota for some time.
4 kills in 13 mins.
What has happened to CIS dota?

they prioritize throwing these days
FTD
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 09 2016 13:23 GMT
#26
Tide = literally taking no damage :D
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 13:27 GMT
#27
Nothing is more hilarious than trying to gank tide.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 09 2016 13:27 GMT
#28
This is over, Spirit can't lose this unless they throw hard
The Real Power~
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 13:27 GMT
#29
On January 09 2016 22:27 Zea! wrote:
This is over, Spirit can't lose this unless they throw hard

We're talking CIS, throws are expected.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lphwo
Profile Joined September 2011
Malaysia751 Posts
January 09 2016 13:36 GMT
#30
Alright at least Team Spirit isn't dragging this game out.
juff
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore4659 Posts
January 09 2016 13:40 GMT
#31
did brood sell his necro 3?
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
January 09 2016 13:45 GMT
#32
It really shouldn't, but I crack up every time I hear Mango Bay. I have no idea why.

Also, it's great to see the Chen/Ench meta back. Can't wait to see Puppey drawing two bans in the first phase.
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
January 09 2016 14:01 GMT
#33
Finally a team bans ES versus Liquid.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 09 2016 14:06 GMT
#34
On January 09 2016 23:01 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Finally a team bans ES versus Liquid.

if they don't ban ES, Funn1k just gives up and leaves
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
January 09 2016 14:09 GMT
#35
A shadow shaman looks like it's in the works for Liquid
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
January 09 2016 14:09 GMT
#36
ban cancer ES, get cancer OD instead
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
January 09 2016 14:11 GMT
#37
AM vs OD, LD, Brood and they're talking about an AM getting the "right lane"? There is no right lane. Especially not with a tusk too.
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
January 09 2016 14:11 GMT
#38
Gotta say it's very funny to see the so called burdens of Na'Vi be the ones doing better than the actual Na'Vi in the qualifiers.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 09 2016 14:13 GMT
#39
On January 09 2016 23:11 Dysisa wrote:
Gotta say it's very funny to see the so called burdens of Na'Vi be the ones doing better than the actual Na'Vi in the qualifiers.

XBOCT and Funn1k who got kicked from Na'Vi fighting for their lives and winning against Artstyle who got kicked from Na'Vi before and Dendi who sat there while everyone got kicked while Goblak who got kicked from both teams already and ALWAYSWANNAFLY who got kicked from Empire twice just sit there and laugh
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
January 09 2016 14:16 GMT
#40
On January 09 2016 23:13 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 23:11 Dysisa wrote:
Gotta say it's very funny to see the so called burdens of Na'Vi be the ones doing better than the actual Na'Vi in the qualifiers.

XBOCT and Funn1k who got kicked from Na'Vi fighting for their lives and winning against Artstyle who got kicked from Na'Vi before and Dendi who sat there while everyone got kicked while Goblak who got kicked from both teams already and ALWAYSWANNAFLY who got kicked from Empire twice just sit there and laugh

This kinda stuff is why CIS is best region in Dota, now and forever.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
January 09 2016 14:16 GMT
#41
Jerax is wrecking this trilane
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 14:20:41
January 09 2016 14:19 GMT
#42
Maybe not everyone knows but Fly is casting as well.
OD <3 finally people pick this imba hero. I hope Kuro goes into decay early on for the 4s CD combined with OD

Aaaaaaand N0tail just joined him.
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 14:20:51
January 09 2016 14:20 GMT
#43
These fucking disgusting roots lol

liquid rngg'ing top lane
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
January 09 2016 14:20 GMT
#44
Shouldn't Brood be skipping creeps? Tide is owning so hard
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
January 09 2016 14:20 GMT
#45
This is some fucking Bulldog shit going on here
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 14:20 GMT
#46
Matumba is the best LD this world've ever seen.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 14:21:02
January 09 2016 14:20 GMT
#47
how is taht fair

Icefrog please
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 09 2016 14:27 GMT
#48
You know, I'm kind of glad Alliance got a direct invite. With the current Hero Pool that's in the meta, they'd have ratted their way through again. Shanghai is going to be interesting.
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
January 09 2016 14:32 GMT
#49
On January 09 2016 23:27 Taf the Ghost wrote:
You know, I'm kind of glad Alliance got a direct invite. With the current Hero Pool that's in the meta, they'd have ratted their way through again. Shanghai is going to be interesting.

It is as I believe Misery said, when you buff Alliances entire hero pool you might as well go ahead and invite them.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 09 2016 14:34 GMT
#50
On January 09 2016 23:32 Dysisa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 23:27 Taf the Ghost wrote:
You know, I'm kind of glad Alliance got a direct invite. With the current Hero Pool that's in the meta, they'd have ratted their way through again. Shanghai is going to be interesting.

It is as I believe Misery said, when you buff Alliances entire hero pool you might as well go ahead and invite them.


Pretty much. There's going to be so much cancer coming out in their games. Starladder could be nuts.
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
January 09 2016 14:38 GMT
#51
Wish Empire didn;t stay after killing OD once
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 14:40 GMT
#52
This game is Matumbaman being luckiest motherfucker alive.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 14:41 GMT
#53
Wp Kuroky lmao
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 09 2016 14:43 GMT
#54
Reso god
The Real Power~
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
January 09 2016 14:43 GMT
#55
What a demonstration of 6.86
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
January 09 2016 14:44 GMT
#56
Brood feels like such a worthless hero.

I dont mind.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 09 2016 14:45 GMT
#57
Disaster for Empire =(
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 14:45 GMT
#58
Empire wasted so many cds lmao.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 14:46:13
January 09 2016 14:45 GMT
#59
Whelp that spiralled out of control fast
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 09 2016 14:46 GMT
#60
jesus OD
The Real Power~
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
January 09 2016 14:46 GMT
#61
+60 int

Come on Icefrog how was this not foreseeable
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
January 09 2016 14:46 GMT
#62
Sudden 10k gold lead
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 14:47 GMT
#63
On January 09 2016 23:46 traumatism wrote:
+60 int

Come on Icefrog how was this not foreseeable

Pre-rework OD would work even better in this situation.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 14:50:08
January 09 2016 14:48 GMT
#64
thats right hovos !
now get the job done !

edit : jinxed ! damn OD damage ! icefraud !
6nnn
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 14:50:17
January 09 2016 14:49 GMT
#65
Game was close, then game was over
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 14:50 GMT
#66
On January 09 2016 23:49 Asha wrote:
Game was close, then game was ove

Empire wasted ravage on killing LD and lost the game there.

Apparently having low cd stuns is useful thing toi have.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
January 09 2016 14:50 GMT
#67
two hits from OD and gyro is ded
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
January 09 2016 14:50 GMT
#68
On January 09 2016 23:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 23:46 traumatism wrote:
+60 int

Come on Icefrog how was this not foreseeable

Pre-rework OD would work even better in this situation.


Pre-rework OD would never have gained +60 int in any lategame fight. (I'm not talking about item bonuses, Fata got +60 int simply by rightclicking)
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
January 09 2016 14:50 GMT
#69
I think that's the most suddenly I've seen a pro game spiral out of control.
nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
January 09 2016 14:50 GMT
#70
that OD, soogoood
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 09 2016 14:50 GMT
#71
just 3 shot every hero lol
The Real Power~
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 09 2016 14:51 GMT
#72
On January 09 2016 23:50 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 23:49 Asha wrote:
Game was close, then game was ove

Empire wasted ravage on killing LD and lost the game there.

Apparently having low cd stuns is useful thing toi have.


Trying to take a fight after Gyro got caught out and Exorcism was on cooldown was pretty dumb too =(
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 14:52:32
January 09 2016 14:52 GMT
#73
On January 09 2016 23:50 traumatism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 23:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:46 traumatism wrote:
+60 int

Come on Icefrog how was this not foreseeable

Pre-rework OD would work even better in this situation.


Pre-rework OD would never have gained +60 int in any lategame fight. (I'm not talking about item bonuses, Fata got +60 int simply by rightclicking)

1. Sanity eclipse was on cd so int amount is irrelevant.

2. Pre-rework OD would kill shit about as fast, take 1 hit at most.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
January 09 2016 14:52 GMT
#74
On January 09 2016 23:51 Asha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 23:50 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:49 Asha wrote:
Game was close, then game was ove

Empire wasted ravage on killing LD and lost the game there.

Apparently having low cd stuns is useful thing toi have.


Trying to take a fight after Gyro got caught out and Exorcism was on cooldown was pretty dumb too =(

To be fair they didnt try to fight. Liquid caught them. They did get caught, yes, but they certainly didnt try to fight. By the time tusk is rolling in to you its too late.
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
January 09 2016 14:54 GMT
#75
pre rework OD need aghs and refreser to do that thing
now , no need to buy that item
6nnn
traumatism
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore3728 Posts
January 09 2016 14:58 GMT
#76
On January 09 2016 23:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 23:50 traumatism wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:46 traumatism wrote:
+60 int

Come on Icefrog how was this not foreseeable

Pre-rework OD would work even better in this situation.


Pre-rework OD would never have gained +60 int in any lategame fight. (I'm not talking about item bonuses, Fata got +60 int simply by rightclicking)

1. Sanity eclipse was on cd so int amount is irrelevant.

2. Pre-rework OD would kill shit about as fast, take 1 hit at most.


I'm not talking about Ult damage either, but simply the rightclick damage. It's really out of hand - that OD only had a BKB (+16 damage) and one Atos (+20 int). He was capable of 2-shotting the gyro. I'm not sure old OD is capable of maintaining that level of damage with these or similiarly priced items.
EyeKon
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada129 Posts
January 09 2016 15:01 GMT
#77
I'm going to write a song asking Fata to have my babies. Damn thats some nice OD play. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one of the planet that doesn't hate OD.
playing since Stealth Assassin had Death Ward
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
January 09 2016 15:05 GMT
#78
lets see which team with a horse in their logo wins. With liquid as enemy I don't mind a loss.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 15:09:26
January 09 2016 15:07 GMT
#79
You make it like OD is overpowered or anything, while nobody bans or picks him early. So it clearly is not OP unless you guys think better than the pros. It's higher tier and is viable again that's for sure
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
January 09 2016 15:09 GMT
#80
Ok, Empire picked Razor, they mega lost.
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
January 09 2016 15:10 GMT
#81
yeah, dont see them doing to well with it ... but maybe liquid also dont have an answer to razor
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 09 2016 15:10 GMT
#82
On January 10 2016 00:09 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Ok, Empire picked Razor, they mega lost.

legendary Xboct razor? Yeah okay :D
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
January 09 2016 15:12 GMT
#83
On January 09 2016 23:58 traumatism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 23:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:50 traumatism wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:46 traumatism wrote:
+60 int

Come on Icefrog how was this not foreseeable

Pre-rework OD would work even better in this situation.


Pre-rework OD would never have gained +60 int in any lategame fight. (I'm not talking about item bonuses, Fata got +60 int simply by rightclicking)

1. Sanity eclipse was on cd so int amount is irrelevant.

2. Pre-rework OD would kill shit about as fast, take 1 hit at most.


I'm not talking about Ult damage either, but simply the rightclick damage. It's really out of hand - that OD only had a BKB (+16 damage) and one Atos (+20 int). He was capable of 2-shotting the gyro. I'm not sure old OD is capable of maintaining that level of damage with these or similiarly priced items.

Atos is +30 int
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 15:12 GMT
#84
Teams are still adjusting to the patch. I'm sure OD will become a higher priority pick/ban before too long. Not that I think he's overpowered. He's strong, but so are a lot of other heroes.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 09 2016 15:15 GMT
#85
On January 10 2016 00:10 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 00:09 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Ok, Empire picked Razor, they mega lost.

legendary Xboct razor? Yeah okay :D

oh they put him on Sven
Yeah game's lost
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Boysetsfire
Profile Joined October 2014
Mexico335 Posts
January 09 2016 15:15 GMT
#86
Razor pick against Fata? Empire lost (i hope)
MarineLorD | Scarlett | ShoWTimE -|- INnoVation | SoO | Classic
cloudstr
Profile Joined July 2015
35 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 15:18:06
January 09 2016 15:17 GMT
#87
this Empire pick looks so weird
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 09 2016 15:22 GMT
#88
I can't believe Empire makes the mistake of beating Liquid early...Now they pretty much can't win.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 09 2016 15:22 GMT
#89
dat bodyblock
The Real Power~
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 15:25:33
January 09 2016 15:25 GMT
#90
On January 10 2016 00:22 Zea! wrote:
dat bodyblock

The first one by Aloha was insane.

On the other hand Funn1k's creep micro is pretty awful.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 09 2016 15:29 GMT
#91
The casters seem asleep today? Tripple kill for Ember and they barely raise their voice
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
January 09 2016 15:32 GMT
#92
Sven so fat and the brood is useless at this point and Chen lost the early game badly. Matumabaman needs to win the game by himself now.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 15:36:09
January 09 2016 15:33 GMT
#93
What does Jerax play when neither ES or Tusk is available?

lol Kuro trying so hard to micro creeps that he forgets to move his hero away? >_>
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
January 09 2016 15:36 GMT
#94
Kuro PLEASE

When you chain stunned the two guys with your centaurs, it was cool but please MICRO YOUR HERO while doing it. it's not hard D:
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
January 09 2016 15:37 GMT
#95
That was an awkward, awkward moment for Kuroky with the chen stomps. XBOCT was probably having a good laugh though.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
January 09 2016 15:37 GMT
#96
On January 10 2016 00:29 LemOn wrote:
The casters seem asleep today? Tripple kill for Ember and they barely raise their voice

They are not really hyped, except at the end of last game when Liquid bought back and got travels to push base when Exorcism was down which was apparently mind-blowing to them.

"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
January 09 2016 15:38 GMT
#97
xboct and kuroky must have remembered puppey at that moment.
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HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
January 09 2016 15:39 GMT
#98
By the way, fly is casting with notail here: http://www.liquiddota.com/stream/fly

way better than BTS imo
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
January 09 2016 15:42 GMT
#99
hovos doing things
6nnn
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
January 09 2016 15:42 GMT
#100
kay i think is game is almost unthrowable even for xboct
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 09 2016 15:42 GMT
#101
XBOCT is playing like an absolute boss this game
The Real Power~
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 09 2016 15:45 GMT
#102
One of the fascinating things about Dota is that game 1 can be an utter stomp and, among the top teams, a lot of times it doesn't matter. So much is about adjusting to your opponent after getting caught out in game 1.
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
January 09 2016 15:50 GMT
#103
liquid please dont make mistake llike previous major
6nnn
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 09 2016 15:53 GMT
#104
On January 10 2016 00:39 HammerKick wrote:
By the way, fly is casting with notail here: http://www.liquiddota.com/stream/fly

way better than BTS imo

Why would anyone watch BTS instead of Mango Bay ft. Draskyl?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 09 2016 15:57 GMT
#105
Empire as a team really, really stepped it up game 2.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
January 09 2016 15:57 GMT
#106
ban sven, ez win
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
January 09 2016 16:00 GMT
#107
I feel they would've lost vs. pretty much any carry there. Brood never ever seems to do well for Liquid... first game he did just ok when he had a 1v1 lane and he lost that lane too.
Boysetsfire
Profile Joined October 2014
Mexico335 Posts
January 09 2016 16:02 GMT
#108
Fünf J.... uhm i mean Liquid please!!!
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hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
January 09 2016 16:02 GMT
#109
i will never understand why teams pick an ember lineup without someone big to charge in and do chaos. those lineups seem way to difficult to execute.
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
January 09 2016 16:05 GMT
#110
we got a DP boys
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 16:10:16
January 09 2016 16:09 GMT
#111
On January 09 2016 23:58 traumatism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 23:52 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:50 traumatism wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:47 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:46 traumatism wrote:
+60 int

Come on Icefrog how was this not foreseeable

Pre-rework OD would work even better in this situation.


Pre-rework OD would never have gained +60 int in any lategame fight. (I'm not talking about item bonuses, Fata got +60 int simply by rightclicking)

1. Sanity eclipse was on cd so int amount is irrelevant.

2. Pre-rework OD would kill shit about as fast, take 1 hit at most.


I'm not talking about Ult damage either, but simply the rightclick damage. It's really out of hand - that OD only had a BKB (+16 damage) and one Atos (+20 int). He was capable of 2-shotting the gyro. I'm not sure old OD is capable of maintaining that level of damage with these or similiarly priced items.

Atos is 30 int btw.

And while 2 shotting is gyro is cool, 3 shotting is fine as well and old OD could do that as well.

Don't forget int gain nerf to compensate int steal.

Essentially old OD would do exact same thing in those circumstances: wreck shit.
On January 09 2016 23:54 sunrazgriz wrote:
pre rework OD need aghs and refreser to do that thing
now , no need to buy that item

Aghs and refresher? We ain't talking about ult bruh, we talk about wrecking faces with right clicks. OD could always do that with farm.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 16:09:21
January 09 2016 16:09 GMT
#112
XBOCT has started to play better since leaving Navi
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 16:10 GMT
#113
On January 10 2016 01:09 stuchiu wrote:
XBOCT has started to play better since leaving Navi

I prefer to connect it with loss of girlfriend.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 16:11:20
January 09 2016 16:11 GMT
#114
On January 10 2016 01:10 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 01:09 stuchiu wrote:
XBOCT has started to play better since leaving Navi

I prefer to connect it with loss of girlfriend.


girlfriends the bane of careers.

Only Nestea and Mvp stayed good when they had one.

Proof that love makes you weak.
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SaltySam
Profile Joined January 2013
65 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 16:21:16
January 09 2016 16:12 GMT
#115
On January 10 2016 00:07 LemOn wrote:
You make it like OD is overpowered or anything, while nobody bans or picks him early. So it clearly is not OP unless you guys think better than the pros. It's higher tier and is viable again that's for sure

Wrong. It was first phase picked and banned several times. Also, the best teams haven't even played in the patch yet, so it's too early for you to even be making such statements.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 16:13:49
January 09 2016 16:13 GMT
#116
Melee carry WITH clockwerk?

What.

Though it's clock against Sven/OD so it's alright i suppose.
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SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
January 09 2016 16:15 GMT
#117
HOW do you pick Lycan IN TO Sven is beyond me...
People call me Jack, OMASJack
nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
January 09 2016 16:15 GMT
#118
DP vs OD rematch

plz do it liquid
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 09 2016 16:15 GMT
#119
Funnik bat, let's do this!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
January 09 2016 16:15 GMT
#120
Liquid fucking lost... what happened again
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 09 2016 16:16 GMT
#121
On January 10 2016 01:15 SatsuinoHado wrote:
HOW do you pick Lycan IN TO Sven is beyond me...


Liquid going push draft. Dazzle/DP/Lycan. They want to push fast and hard and end in mid game.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 09 2016 16:17 GMT
#122
Nofear living up to his name.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 16:21 GMT
#123
Tusk will win this game, mark these words.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
January 09 2016 16:22 GMT
#124
On January 10 2016 01:16 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 01:15 SatsuinoHado wrote:
HOW do you pick Lycan IN TO Sven is beyond me...


Liquid going push draft. Dazzle/DP/Lycan. They want to push fast and hard and end in mid game.


I never feel good when I play lycan vs Sven cause the nature of the hero mass aoe stun leave +armor... but I get the point ye
People call me Jack, OMASJack
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 09 2016 16:26 GMT
#125
On January 10 2016 01:22 SatsuinoHado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 01:16 the bear jew wrote:
On January 10 2016 01:15 SatsuinoHado wrote:
HOW do you pick Lycan IN TO Sven is beyond me...


Liquid going push draft. Dazzle/DP/Lycan. They want to push fast and hard and end in mid game.


I never feel good when I play lycan vs Sven cause the nature of the hero mass aoe stun leave +armor... but I get the point ye


The question is, can Liquid end fast enough before Empire comes online and gets items. Batrider blink is gonna be huge.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 09 2016 16:28 GMT
#126
On January 10 2016 01:26 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 01:22 SatsuinoHado wrote:
On January 10 2016 01:16 the bear jew wrote:
On January 10 2016 01:15 SatsuinoHado wrote:
HOW do you pick Lycan IN TO Sven is beyond me...


Liquid going push draft. Dazzle/DP/Lycan. They want to push fast and hard and end in mid game.


I never feel good when I play lycan vs Sven cause the nature of the hero mass aoe stun leave +armor... but I get the point ye


The question is, can Liquid end fast enough before Empire comes online and gets items. Batrider blink is gonna be huge.

Of course. There's a reason Liquid deserved a direct invite and no one gave a shit about Empire.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
January 09 2016 16:32 GMT
#127
wasted dp ulty and lycan ulty i think its space created for empire?
People call me Jack, OMASJack
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 09 2016 16:35 GMT
#128
wtf liquid, how, why
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 16:35 GMT
#129
Production value: Casperr popup on half dead ranged rax.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
January 09 2016 16:36 GMT
#130
gonna give it to Hvost he is keeping up with the CS related to Lycan even on the back foot.
People call me Jack, OMASJack
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
January 09 2016 16:36 GMT
#131
was grave on cooldown while DP died?
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
January 09 2016 16:37 GMT
#132
lmao
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 09 2016 16:37 GMT
#133
DP ult with grave too good.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 09 2016 16:37 GMT
#134
Pretty spooky folks.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
January 09 2016 16:37 GMT
#135
k dp is op
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
January 09 2016 16:37 GMT
#136
LMAO XBOCT
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 16:37 GMT
#137
I said you this.
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Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
January 09 2016 16:38 GMT
#138
I was worried about that fight for a second.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4554 Posts
January 09 2016 16:38 GMT
#139
DP huehuehue
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
January 09 2016 16:38 GMT
#140
Not a fan of DP. happy for liquid, extremely happy but that's not the kind of gameplay I enjoy.
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
January 09 2016 16:38 GMT
#141
dp with a billion of defensive spells seems pretty good.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
January 09 2016 16:38 GMT
#142
lol.

im so bad at dota. no clue what happend that fight
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 16:39:07
January 09 2016 16:38 GMT
#143
On January 10 2016 01:38 75 wrote:
lol.

im so bad at dota. no clue what happend that fight

dp with a full ulti and you cant kill her because of defensive spells
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 16:39 GMT
#144
On January 10 2016 01:36 75 wrote:
was grave on cooldown while DP died?

I think he was just out of range. FATA was REALLY out of position.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 09 2016 16:39 GMT
#145
On January 10 2016 01:39 SFDuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 01:36 75 wrote:
was grave on cooldown while DP died?

I think he was just out of range. FATA was REALLY out of position.

ye
classic "dive instead of raxing" case
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
January 09 2016 16:40 GMT
#146
xboct still doing xboct things
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 09 2016 16:41 GMT
#147
I really hate Dazzle as a hero.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 16:41 GMT
#148
If DP wasn't such a silly hero, that fight (and that dive) would have gone so much worse.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4554 Posts
January 09 2016 16:42 GMT
#149
llama pls LOL

"DP ult is full of dead womens"
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
January 09 2016 16:42 GMT
#150
On January 10 2016 01:39 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 01:39 SFDuality wrote:
On January 10 2016 01:36 75 wrote:
was grave on cooldown while DP died?

I think he was just out of range. FATA was REALLY out of position.

ye
classic "dive instead of raxing" case

yepp, and certainly not the first time liquid does it
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
January 09 2016 16:43 GMT
#151
xboct, what a player (?)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 16:43 GMT
#152
LMAO

Spirit Siphon is so fucking broken.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 09 2016 16:43 GMT
#153
"She's sucking everyone off. Dead women everywhere."

Sounds like a porn snuff film
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 16:44:22
January 09 2016 16:43 GMT
#154
On January 10 2016 01:41 SFDuality wrote:
If DP wasn't such a silly hero, that fight (and that dive) would have gone so much worse.

I think it was only partly DP. Weave, grave, and solar crest do so much when combined with a ton of sustained damage.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 16:43 GMT
#155
Guys.

PSA: Octarine multiplies effect of spirit siphon x1.5, like it does with pugna.
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 09 2016 16:44 GMT
#156
Kuro confirmed best Navi-reject
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 16:45 GMT
#157
On January 10 2016 01:44 babysimba wrote:
Kuro confirmed best Navi-reject

That's Puppey
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Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 09 2016 16:46 GMT
#158
omg, DP confirmed new cancer
The Real Power~
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
January 09 2016 16:46 GMT
#159
On January 10 2016 01:44 babysimba wrote:
Kuro confirmed best Navi-reject

puppey ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 09 2016 16:47 GMT
#160
On January 10 2016 01:46 Zea! wrote:
omg, DP confirmed new cancer


If you protect her properly, it's pretty nuts. Though you need to build your draft around her.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 09 2016 16:47 GMT
#161
On January 10 2016 01:46 Zea! wrote:
omg, DP confirmed new cancer


It's funny cause Empire used DP to beat Navi yesterday. I guess they don't realize how bullshit DP is either.
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SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 16:47 GMT
#162
On January 10 2016 01:43 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 01:41 SFDuality wrote:
If DP wasn't such a silly hero, that fight (and that dive) would have gone so much worse.

I think it was only partly DP. Weave, grave, and solar crest do so much when combined with a ton of sustained damage.

Yeah, I mean, DP is pretty ridiculous on her own, but DP + Dazzle is just nightmare-inducing.
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
January 09 2016 16:47 GMT
#163
liquid did it :D
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 09 2016 16:47 GMT
#164
Puppey is the one that kick Navi away, not the other way around
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 09 2016 16:47 GMT
#165
Twitch chat was a solid wall of frogs at the end there.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13040 Posts
January 09 2016 16:47 GMT
#166
lmao dp cant die
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
January 09 2016 16:47 GMT
#167
Hah that felt like the winner's finals.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 16:48 GMT
#168
I almost want to get banned for twitch emotes now.

Siphon is fucking broken.
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 16:48:31
January 09 2016 16:48 GMT
#169
On January 10 2016 01:47 babysimba wrote:
Puppey is the one that kick Navi away, not the other way around

kuroky did the same

what ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
January 09 2016 16:48 GMT
#170
dp+octarine+dazzle is the stuff of nightmares
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
January 09 2016 16:49 GMT
#171
On January 10 2016 01:47 SFDuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 01:43 Daralii wrote:
On January 10 2016 01:41 SFDuality wrote:
If DP wasn't such a silly hero, that fight (and that dive) would have gone so much worse.

I think it was only partly DP. Weave, grave, and solar crest do so much when combined with a ton of sustained damage.

Yeah, I mean, DP is pretty ridiculous on her own, but DP + Dazzle is just nightmare-inducing.

So what is DP + DAZZLE + TUSK ?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 16:49 GMT
#172
On January 10 2016 01:49 Gevna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 01:47 SFDuality wrote:
On January 10 2016 01:43 Daralii wrote:
On January 10 2016 01:41 SFDuality wrote:
If DP wasn't such a silly hero, that fight (and that dive) would have gone so much worse.

I think it was only partly DP. Weave, grave, and solar crest do so much when combined with a ton of sustained damage.

Yeah, I mean, DP is pretty ridiculous on her own, but DP + Dazzle is just nightmare-inducing.

So what is DP + DAZZLE + TUSK ?

Cancer.
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duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 16:49:39
January 09 2016 16:49 GMT
#173
siphon doesn't give you hp, what is draskyl talking about?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 16:50:56
January 09 2016 16:50 GMT
#174
On January 10 2016 01:49 duckii wrote:
siphon doesn't give you hp, what is draskyl talking about?

Siphon heals you, if you did not know. In fact, it even heals you when enemy is not dealt damage to (for example when enemy is in euls).
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SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 16:51 GMT
#175
On January 10 2016 01:49 duckii wrote:
siphon doesn't give you hp, what is draskyl talking about?

What are you talking about? Siphon drains a percentage of max health per second from the target and gives it to DP.
cloudstr
Profile Joined July 2015
35 Posts
January 09 2016 16:52 GMT
#176
DP is AIDS
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 09 2016 16:53 GMT
#177
I'm kind of disappointed someone didn't say GG, DP at the end of the game.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 16:56 GMT
#178
On January 10 2016 01:52 cloudstr wrote:
DP is AIDS

It's just Siphon. If that ability is nerfed a little DP is fine. I mean, it's a slow, a good defensive ability and decent DPS all rolled into one, AND you can have up to 4 charges so you can just cast it on everyone in teamfights and be pretty much immortal while they all die painfully. It's like a better Pugna ult on a non-ultimate skill slot. I have no idea who designed that ability and thought it would be fine for Dota, much less for Captains Mode.
BasalGanglia
Profile Joined October 2015
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 16:58:28
January 09 2016 16:57 GMT
#179
Empire had DP in the first game, and liquid steam rolled over them with the OD. So Fata either is the superior DP or OD player.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 16:59 GMT
#180
On January 10 2016 01:57 BasalGanglia wrote:
Empire had DP in the first game, and liquid steam rolled over them with the OD. So Fata either is the superior DP or OD player.

Empire got rolled in the first game because they got caught with exorcism/ravage on cd and gyro dead, as ridiculous as DP is, DP without ult is still not that good in 5v3 fights (3 because tide without ravage is not a hero either).
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 09 2016 17:00 GMT
#181
On January 10 2016 01:57 BasalGanglia wrote:
Empire had DP in the first game, and liquid steam rolled over them with the OD. So Fata either is the superior DP or OD player.


...or Liquid dove the midlane a bazillion times for the express purpose of helping FATA win the lane.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 17:01:20
January 09 2016 17:01 GMT
#182
On January 10 2016 01:57 BasalGanglia wrote:
Empire had DP in the first game, and liquid steam rolled over them with the OD. So Fata either is the superior DP or OD player.

Or maybe it's just one game with different drafts / team etc...
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 09 2016 17:01 GMT
#183
On January 10 2016 01:53 Daralii wrote:
I'm kind of disappointed someone didn't say GG, DP at the end of the game.

That would be humorous because DP sounds like WP and players often say GG WP, but they'd reference Death Prophet instead!
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 09 2016 17:02 GMT
#184
On January 10 2016 01:56 SFDuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 01:52 cloudstr wrote:
DP is AIDS

It's just Siphon. If that ability is nerfed a little DP is fine. I mean, it's a slow, a good defensive ability and decent DPS all rolled into one, AND you can have up to 4 charges so you can just cast it on everyone in teamfights and be pretty much immortal while they all die painfully. It's like a better Pugna ult on a non-ultimate skill slot. I have no idea who designed that ability and thought it would be fine for Dota, much less for Captains Mode.


All the new abilities feel like someone skimmed through Reddit posts and picked a suggestion at random.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 17:02 GMT
#185
On January 10 2016 02:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 01:56 SFDuality wrote:
On January 10 2016 01:52 cloudstr wrote:
DP is AIDS

It's just Siphon. If that ability is nerfed a little DP is fine. I mean, it's a slow, a good defensive ability and decent DPS all rolled into one, AND you can have up to 4 charges so you can just cast it on everyone in teamfights and be pretty much immortal while they all die painfully. It's like a better Pugna ult on a non-ultimate skill slot. I have no idea who designed that ability and thought it would be fine for Dota, much less for Captains Mode.


All the new abilities feel like someone skimmed through Reddit posts and picked a suggestion at random.

Well... Considering that reddit frontpage is better dev.dota2.com, makes sense balance changes are going down like that.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50245 Posts
January 09 2016 17:03 GMT
#186
holy shit this is the lufia 2 boss theme in the background.
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SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 17:16 GMT
#187
On January 10 2016 02:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
holy shit this is the lufia 2 boss theme in the background.

Meanwhile on ODPixel's stream... more Mango Bay.

I've gotta commend his and Draskyl's dedication to memeing, but I think I'll be bringing my own music for this event, thank you very much.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 09 2016 17:19 GMT
#188
On January 10 2016 02:16 SFDuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 02:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
holy shit this is the lufia 2 boss theme in the background.

Meanwhile on ODPixel's stream... more Mango Bay.

I've gotta commend his and Draskyl's dedication to memeing, but I think I'll be bringing my own music for this event, thank you very much.

I'd like to thank Arteezy for bringing it to our attention.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 17:34 GMT
#189
I can't decide whether or not an ODPixel solo cast is worse than this BTS cast. How do I choose? D:
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 09 2016 17:34 GMT
#190
On January 10 2016 02:34 SFDuality wrote:
I can't decide whether or not an ODPixel solo cast is worse than this BTS cast. How do I choose? D:


Watch Fly & Notail?

Although hitbox is garbage for me ><
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 17:36:01
January 09 2016 17:35 GMT
#191
Hitbox is pretty horrible for me too.

Never mind, Llama's gone, BTS it is.
V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
January 09 2016 17:38 GMT
#192
On January 10 2016 02:35 SFDuality wrote:
Hitbox is pretty horrible for me too.

Never mind, Llama's gone, BTS it is.


I don't watch BTS...who is Llama?
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 09 2016 17:39 GMT
#193
Gogo Liquid no sweat please :o
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 09 2016 17:39 GMT
#194
On January 10 2016 02:35 SFDuality wrote:
Hitbox is pretty horrible for me too.

Never mind, Llama's gone, BTS it is.

You missed him saying that he gets off to SF's death animation.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 09 2016 17:50 GMT
#195
I hope that Empire makes it

want to see XBOCT back in action
WriterXiao8~~
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 09 2016 17:51 GMT
#196
On January 10 2016 02:50 Kipsate wrote:
I hope that Empire makes it

want to see XBOCT back in action

yeah empire and liquid, but that's terrible play right now
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
January 09 2016 17:52 GMT
#197
Empire's getting kills, but aren't these rotations a little much? It was 5v3 mid to save OD I think and they only got one kill out of it.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
January 09 2016 17:52 GMT
#198
Tree-OD... Goblak going back to his 2013 Sigma days.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 17:54 GMT
#199
On January 10 2016 02:52 Diavlo wrote:
Tree-OD... Goblak going back to his 2013 Sigma days.

Quantic* Sigma was never Goblak's team.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 17:55 GMT
#200
godly Brew usage.
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Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
January 09 2016 18:00 GMT
#201
Is this the first Brew pick of the tourney? I haven't seen any other ones at least.

Also hahaha I just noticed the brazilian stream has more viewers for this than Moonducktv, what a blunder.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
January 09 2016 18:00 GMT
#202
lol that was so fitting
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 09 2016 18:00 GMT
#203
scrappy fights but wp liquid dayum
WriterXiao8~~
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
January 09 2016 18:00 GMT
#204
On January 10 2016 02:54 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 02:52 Diavlo wrote:
Tree-OD... Goblak going back to his 2013 Sigma days.

Quantic* Sigma was never Goblak's team.

Ho yeah you're right, confusing time when they changed names/reformed from DD.dota.

The "trying to save everyone" syndrome is real with Spirit. They have such a good late game, why are they engaging.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 18:01 GMT
#205
When these pr0 ODs will start buying fucking blink?
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6298 Posts
January 09 2016 18:04 GMT
#206
You just dont give Jerax ES
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 09 2016 18:05 GMT
#207
Fly's solo cast is really good <3
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6298 Posts
January 09 2016 18:08 GMT
#208
Dont know what they were thinking with that highground attempt..
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 18:08 GMT
#209
Classic case of buy bkb win fight with 0 problems.
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Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
January 09 2016 18:09 GMT
#210
Really bad hg... fight against the 2 bkbs without lycan bkb and then lose rosh as well.
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 18:11:51
January 09 2016 18:11 GMT
#211
On January 10 2016 03:00 Dysisa wrote:
Is this the first Brew pick of the tourney? I haven't seen any other ones at least.

Also hahaha I just noticed the brazilian stream has more viewers for this than Moonducktv, what a blunder.

this is the 7th Brew pick in the shanghai major qualifiers
it was picked by Mama's Boys/4CL (vs Empire), by iG (vs FanTuan), by Void Boys (vs Archon), by Na'vi (vs HR), by Liquid (vs Vega), and by Freedom/Mischief (vs Not Today)
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 18:19 GMT
#212
Well, Jerax fucked up.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 09 2016 18:20 GMT
#213
The very rare Jerax ES misplay
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 18:21 GMT
#214
Lycan ate everyone lmao.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
January 09 2016 18:22 GMT
#215
spirit should have backed after the t3 and waited for od/bane ult :/
Romanes eunt domus
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
January 09 2016 18:22 GMT
#216
a wolf is at your door
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
January 09 2016 18:22 GMT
#217
CIS doto at it's finest, get to high ground and forget how to play dota.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 18:24 GMT
#218
Wait, since when Lycan hits so fucking hard.
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
January 09 2016 18:24 GMT
#219
Never knew a Lycan can kill a 22k Gyro in 4 swipes ,damn that was brutal
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
January 09 2016 18:24 GMT
#220
im sorry but idk why people pick OD

the hero is actually so garbage

all you need is bkb and OD turns into a ranged creep lol
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 09 2016 18:25 GMT
#221
Lycan is an okay hero.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 09 2016 18:25 GMT
#222
wolf stronk
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 09 2016 18:25 GMT
#223
damn I thought they lost for sure
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
January 09 2016 18:25 GMT
#224
aaaaaaand the door is gone
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
January 09 2016 18:26 GMT
#225
this lycan has ridiculous damage output
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 09 2016 18:26 GMT
#226
So what region is more dead, CIS or China?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 09 2016 18:27 GMT
#227
this liquid team's just impressive
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 18:27 GMT
#228
Good news for Team Spirit: Lycan does not have manta.
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dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
January 09 2016 18:30 GMT
#229
am I alone in thinking aghs on treant protector is massively overrated? Mek + arcane + force staff just seems like it would have a lot more impact in actually winning the game.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 18:31:58
January 09 2016 18:31 GMT
#230
On January 10 2016 03:30 dutchfriese wrote:
am I alone in thinking aghs on treant protector is massively overrated? Mek + arcane + force staff just seems like it would have a lot more impact in actually winning the game.

Free wards, duh. Also, you are listing way more gold than aghs costs.
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dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 18:36:35
January 09 2016 18:36 GMT
#231
On January 10 2016 03:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:30 dutchfriese wrote:
am I alone in thinking aghs on treant protector is massively overrated? Mek + arcane + force staff just seems like it would have a lot more impact in actually winning the game.

Free wards, duh. Also, you are listing way more gold than aghs costs.


Well yeah it's really strong when the opposing team's supports are greedy and incompetent, but smart supports will just buy a gem.

Perhaps the item I actually have a problem with here is the refresher orb though. I'd rather just see him make the mek and go into agh's later, but agh's into refresher just seems insanely cost ineffective to me in a competitive game where the goal is winning.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 09 2016 18:37 GMT
#232
oh daaaaaaaaaammmmmmmm
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
January 09 2016 18:37 GMT
#233
Lose game in 5 seconds. This game makes no sense.
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
January 09 2016 18:37 GMT
#234
Goblak dota is best dota.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
January 09 2016 18:38 GMT
#235
LOL
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 18:38 GMT
#236
On January 10 2016 03:36 dutchfriese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:30 dutchfriese wrote:
am I alone in thinking aghs on treant protector is massively overrated? Mek + arcane + force staff just seems like it would have a lot more impact in actually winning the game.

Free wards, duh. Also, you are listing way more gold than aghs costs.


Well yeah it's really strong when the opposing team's supports are greedy and incompetent, but smart supports will just buy a gem.

Perhaps the item I actually have a problem with here is the refresher orb though. I'd rather just see him make the mek and go into agh's later, but agh's into refresher just seems insanely cost ineffective to me in a competitive game where the goal is winning.

Refresher's value is the same as on silencer: you just root them if they save bkb/other dispel for first root.
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Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
January 09 2016 18:38 GMT
#237
WTF JUST HAPPENED
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 18:38 GMT
#238
WHAT A FUCKING HERO
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Hetairoi
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Sweden508 Posts
January 09 2016 18:38 GMT
#239
ROFL
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
January 09 2016 18:38 GMT
#240
Well that seems fair lol
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
January 09 2016 18:38 GMT
#241
ahahahahaha that was amazing
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 09 2016 18:38 GMT
#242
ICEFRAAAAAAAAAAAAAUD
WriterXiao8~~
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 09 2016 18:38 GMT
#243
hahaha jerax
this looked so comical :D
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
January 09 2016 18:38 GMT
#244
HELLO FOUNTAIN. GG
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 09 2016 18:39 GMT
#245
What a stupid game haha
icyF
Profile Joined June 2008
Finland305 Posts
January 09 2016 18:39 GMT
#246
Jeraxgod :D
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
January 09 2016 18:39 GMT
#247
GOOD HERO
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 18:39 GMT
#248
Thank god i don't play this game.
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
January 09 2016 18:39 GMT
#249
So great :D
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Beaza
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany203 Posts
January 09 2016 18:39 GMT
#250
how can u even throne against that?
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 18:39 GMT
#251
LMAO

Poor Gyro. Aghs Earth Spirit is so silly.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13040 Posts
January 09 2016 18:39 GMT
#252
HOLY SHIT LMAO
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 09 2016 18:39 GMT
#253
Now That's What I Call Balance: Volume 686
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 09 2016 18:39 GMT
#254
Earth spiiiiriit
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
January 09 2016 18:41 GMT
#255
you had satanic LOL
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
January 09 2016 18:41 GMT
#256
Wasn't even worried at any point.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 09 2016 18:41 GMT
#257
Dota is a very silly game.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 09 2016 18:41 GMT
#258
what a game
eX Killy
Profile Joined November 2012
Taiwan906 Posts
January 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#259
god damn icefraud
telling it like it is
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#260
OSFROOOOOOOOOOOG
WriterXiao8~~
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
January 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#261
ROFL
I love dota 2
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
January 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#262
Omg liquid hahahah <3
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
January 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#263
jeraaax
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#264
Jerax having fun playing soccer.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#265
What a silly game
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
January 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#266
Jerax ES winning games
Beaza
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany203 Posts
January 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#267
jerax
i expect an earth spirit ban next game
BadAim
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway879 Posts
January 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#268
What da fuq was that game?! AWESOME SHIT!
My esports soul belongs to: Boxer | White-Ra | Daigo Umehara | Nazgul | IceFrog
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
January 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#269
perfect spot
in my fountain rofl
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
GiveMeYourtTots
Profile Joined May 2014
990 Posts
January 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#270
On January 10 2016 03:42 SFDuality wrote:
Jerax having fun playing soccer.


*football*
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#271
Oh god the balance police is going to be out in force after this one
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
January 09 2016 18:43 GMT
#272
J-God boys
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Zeelah
Profile Joined September 2015
Ireland172 Posts
January 09 2016 18:43 GMT
#273
I was rooting for neither team,but that Es+Venge play was just fucking stupid lol
♩♪♫ Stand In The Fire ♫♪♩
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 09 2016 18:43 GMT
#274
you gotta ban that :D
He's the only one who really makes the hero work thought right?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 18:44 GMT
#275
On January 10 2016 03:43 LemOn wrote:
you gotta ban that :D
He's the only one who really makes the hero work thought right?

MMY's one is pretty legit as well IIRC.
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cloudstr
Profile Joined July 2015
35 Posts
January 09 2016 18:44 GMT
#276
i fucking hate Earth Spirit now, dunno why
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 18:44:49
January 09 2016 18:44 GMT
#277
On January 10 2016 03:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:36 dutchfriese wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:31 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:30 dutchfriese wrote:
am I alone in thinking aghs on treant protector is massively overrated? Mek + arcane + force staff just seems like it would have a lot more impact in actually winning the game.

Free wards, duh. Also, you are listing way more gold than aghs costs.


Well yeah it's really strong when the opposing team's supports are greedy and incompetent, but smart supports will just buy a gem.

Perhaps the item I actually have a problem with here is the refresher orb though. I'd rather just see him make the mek and go into agh's later, but agh's into refresher just seems insanely cost ineffective to me in a competitive game where the goal is winning.

Refresher's value is the same as on silencer: you just root them if they save bkb/other dispel for first root.


I understand the reasoning behind it, but if we're going to talk about the actual economics behind the item build then we have to discuss what could have been built in its place with the 9300 gold investment.

The one thing I'll say though is that if a team is going to commit that much gold to the aghs refresher treant protector, the best way to play it is probably trying to take fights outside the base with the vision advantage. Trying to break the base 5v5 was probably a mistake.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
January 09 2016 18:44 GMT
#278
On January 10 2016 03:43 LemOn wrote:
you gotta ban that :D
He's the only one who really makes the hero work thought right?


EHOME had good success at WCA with it
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Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
January 09 2016 18:46 GMT
#279
http://oddshot.tv/shot/beyondthesummit-20160109183659541
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 18:46 GMT
#280
One moment you're hitting racks, next you're in the enemy fountain. I wish I could have heard Spirit's teamspeak/Skype/whatever they use when that happened.
SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
January 09 2016 18:46 GMT
#281
You play vs liquid you dont ban es because you can counter it oh wait...
People call me Jack, OMASJack
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 18:49 GMT
#282
For a second though.

If i remember correctly, ES can essentially move a turned-in-a-rock hero on something like 2900-3400 units, right?

Icefraud, please.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1453 Posts
January 09 2016 18:52 GMT
#283
That was totally balanced.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
January 09 2016 18:53 GMT
#284
On January 10 2016 03:46 SatsuinoHado wrote:
You play vs liquid you dont ban es because you can counter it oh wait...


How is ES not first phase banned vs Liquid...
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 18:57:54
January 09 2016 18:56 GMT
#285
On January 10 2016 03:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
For a second though.

If i remember correctly, ES can essentially move a turned-in-a-rock hero on something like 2900-3400 units, right?

Icefraud, please.

max range pull: 1100 units (1300 with aether lens)
smash: 2000 units (800 on anything other than remnants or enchant-remnant-ed heroes)
total: 3100 (3300 with lens)
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SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
January 09 2016 18:56 GMT
#286
I ask that question 2 days already and every single time its the same. Jeerax does amazing shit and liquid wins. As i said yesterday teams that dont ban es vs liquid deserve to lose!
People call me Jack, OMASJack
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
January 09 2016 18:58 GMT
#287
On January 10 2016 03:53 HammerKick wrote:
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On January 10 2016 03:46 SatsuinoHado wrote:
You play vs liquid you dont ban es because you can counter it oh wait...


How is ES not first phase banned vs Liquid...

BTS were suggesting that it might be because at that point all you're really doing is spending a ban to make Jerax play Tusk instead, that's still pretty bad. (Spirit's first two bans were Wisp and DP.) Not sure that's right, but I can see how you could talk yourself into it, at least.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
January 09 2016 18:58 GMT
#288
Mango Bay playing in ODPixel's stream.....
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
January 09 2016 19:01 GMT
#289
Hoping for Liquid to make it, just one more game to go!
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
January 09 2016 19:04 GMT
#290
On January 10 2016 03:58 Loanshark wrote:
Mango Bay playing in ODPixel's stream.....


I should mute his stream during breaks, but now I'm infected by the mango bay
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 19:08 GMT
#291
On January 10 2016 04:04 HammerKick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 03:58 Loanshark wrote:
Mango Bay playing in ODPixel's stream.....


I should mute his stream during breaks, but now I'm infected by the mango bay

We've lost another one, boys.

I move that ODPixel be tried and executed as a war criminal for inflicting Mango Bay upon his hapless viewers.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 09 2016 19:13 GMT
#292
That smoke fail was painful how does that happen
BadAim
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway879 Posts
January 09 2016 19:13 GMT
#293
Uhm, whats mango bay?
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 19:20 GMT
#294
Oww, goblak special.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
January 09 2016 19:25 GMT
#295
the greed, the greeeeeeeeeed
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3239 Posts
January 09 2016 19:26 GMT
#296
On January 10 2016 04:13 BadAim wrote:
Uhm, whats mango bay?

tune into ODs stream during the breaks to find out
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
January 09 2016 19:27 GMT
#297
after life plz.... what are you doing so close to gyro , step back and hit him.... jeez
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 19:28:17
January 09 2016 19:27 GMT
#298
Spirit overcommitting again on the chase zz

Then Liquid hang around too long lol
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 09 2016 19:27 GMT
#299
Well played JerAx.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
January 09 2016 19:29 GMT
#300
Is Team Spirit going 3 necro books?
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
January 09 2016 19:31 GMT
#301
On January 10 2016 04:29 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Is Team Spirit going 3 necro books?

Forge spirits, lycan wolves and treants could feel lonely otherwise.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 19:32:02
January 09 2016 19:31 GMT
#302
On January 10 2016 04:29 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Is Team Spirit going 3 necro books?

Obviously. I call that Goblak special: yolo-est push that can take a rax even against rapier Ember. Though he goes aghs -_-
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
January 09 2016 19:32 GMT
#303
On January 10 2016 04:13 BadAim wrote:
Uhm, whats mango bay?


Search it on YouTube, should be the first result, the video will have lots of Dota2 spam comments
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
January 09 2016 19:33 GMT
#304
suddenly super good fight by liquid
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 19:34:08
January 09 2016 19:33 GMT
#305
What a mess this series is lol. Guess nerves, there's a lot at stake
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
January 09 2016 19:34 GMT
#306
you know guys... focus someone TS.... how they not kill anyone with 2 necros and a gold lead....
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
January 09 2016 19:34 GMT
#307
Who is the caster on ODs stream?
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 19:34 GMT
#308
Jerax has balls of steel. I would be running straight back to base if I was that low.

Which is why he's the pro player and I'm a scrub, I guess.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 09 2016 19:36 GMT
#309
who is this cocaster on OD

he is hella boring and I feel like falling asleep
WriterXiao8~~
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
January 09 2016 19:38 GMT
#310
On January 10 2016 04:34 Kreb wrote:
Who is the caster on ODs stream?

On January 10 2016 04:36 Kipsate wrote:
who is this cocaster on OD

he is hella boring and I feel like falling asleep

i think twitch chat said it's Rime
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 09 2016 19:44 GMT
#311
what is happening
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 09 2016 19:44 GMT
#312
wow clutch war
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 09 2016 19:45 GMT
#313
Jerax can only use heroes that can roll
BadAim
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway879 Posts
January 09 2016 19:45 GMT
#314
Jerax is insane on Tuskarr.
My esports soul belongs to: Boxer | White-Ra | Daigo Umehara | Nazgul | IceFrog
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
January 09 2016 19:46 GMT
#315
This must be infuriating for Spirit, liquid keeps on getting away with <100HP on multiple heroes.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 09 2016 19:46 GMT
#316
what a blink from iceberg

so many wtf plays haha
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
January 09 2016 19:47 GMT
#317
Liquid is a pretty good team huh
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 09 2016 19:47 GMT
#318
I enjoy watching Russians choke while Rime whispers sweet nothings into my ear.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 09 2016 19:47 GMT
#319
These Finns are fucking crazy
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 19:48:11
January 09 2016 19:47 GMT
#320
that was some epic choking from Spirit lol

gg liquid
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
January 09 2016 19:48 GMT
#321
Liquid are the better team , sorry TS you got outclassed .... good luck vs empire!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 09 2016 19:48 GMT
#322
this Dark Seer is actually beating the shit out of them
WriterXiao8~~
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
January 09 2016 19:48 GMT
#323
Liquid to Shanghai!
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 09 2016 19:48 GMT
#324
On January 10 2016 04:45 babysimba wrote:
Jerax can only use heroes that can roll

He's a baller.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
January 09 2016 19:48 GMT
#325
Liquid is looking really good for the major :D
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6298 Posts
January 09 2016 19:48 GMT
#326
Good job Liquid!
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
January 09 2016 19:49 GMT
#327
I love how most liquid games look kind of sketchy for them and then they just take a team fight and win.
Liquipedia
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 09 2016 19:49 GMT
#328
Well deserved spot, more than Alliance at least
xyzz
Profile Joined January 2012
567 Posts
January 09 2016 19:49 GMT
#329
GJ Liquid.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
January 09 2016 19:49 GMT
#330
so that's it? liquid is going to shangaï? HYPE
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
January 09 2016 19:49 GMT
#331
SHANGHAAIIIUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3 well played!
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 09 2016 19:50 GMT
#332
*relief*
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
January 09 2016 19:50 GMT
#333
shaaaanghai
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
January 09 2016 19:52 GMT
#334
Great job!
An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom!
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3239 Posts
January 09 2016 19:54 GMT
#335
mango bay time
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
January 09 2016 19:54 GMT
#336
No invite no problem
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
January 09 2016 19:59 GMT
#337
On January 10 2016 04:49 imallinson wrote:
I love how most liquid games look kind of sketchy for them and then they just take a team fight and win.

They kinda look like old EG back when they had to play qualifiers, they hardly ever crush the other team and some of their wins are just on the back of pure late game execution but they go through either way.

Hopefully they will be as clutch as EG when it comes to the big stage.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
January 09 2016 20:15 GMT
#338
justice for liquid
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
January 09 2016 20:27 GMT
#339
grats liquid!!
:)
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 10 2016 01:16 GMT
#340
Liquid proving that they should have gotten the invite over some other teams.
Brood War loyalist
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 10 2016 03:10 GMT
#341
Congrats on going to Shanghai Liquid.
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