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Edit: OFC not Wow, 12 minutes racks | ||
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to win this game na'vi would hve to snowball the lanes like 9-0 and even then they have almost no room for error before 20 min | ||
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On January 07 2016 18:34 mutantmagnet wrote: I guess we found the spiritual successor to 2014 Vici Gaming. Don't you remember the infamous 1 SoF 3 kills game? It was Goblak's team with Lycan-Furion-Invoker trio back then as well. | ||
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On January 07 2016 18:40 Acritter wrote: Poor Na'Vi, Axmo had 0 game impact. Usually when you say zero impact, it is meant as an exaggeration but in this game it was literally zero impact. | ||
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On January 07 2016 18:51 Gevna wrote: They let Invoker through to ban OD. I think I missed something. For some reason ArtStyle thinks OD is a good hero. | ||
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On January 07 2016 18:42 DucK- wrote: Usually when you say zero impact, it is meant as an exaggeration but in this game it was literally zero impact. Yup. If Na'Vi had been playing with 5, they would have held that first push and won. Axmo would have made some rotations, NP/Invoker would have died a few times, the push would have been delayed two minutes, SK would have had Epi and level 4 Burrowstrike, Ditya Ra would have had Bfury, and that beautiful initiation would have been a 5 man wipe. Instead, they lost rax. GG | ||
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On January 07 2016 18:56 Mafe wrote: Philsophical question: Is a negative impact also some kind of impact? Yeah, but it's about as good as no impact, as in: it helps enemy team win. | ||
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On January 07 2016 18:56 Mafe wrote: Philsophical question: Is a negative impact also some kind of impact? Yea but only for the other team, something also know as 4v6 | ||
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lolfail9001
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What. | ||
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On January 07 2016 18:59 lolfail9001 wrote: Spectre into Sven? What. He plans on dagger his way away every time, EVERY TIME Edit: FeedStyle strikes again | ||
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Edit: Thats an expression in my country. Not a mean thing. | ||
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thank you | ||
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On January 07 2016 19:19 lolfail9001 wrote: Sudden under 20 minute aghs on Treant. It seems TSpirit know clearly what they are doing, I can't say the same about NaVi | ||
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On January 07 2016 19:22 SatsuinoHado wrote: Im just not able to root for anyone else than TS in that qually really How can you not even root for a team that wins in 18 minutes with 0 stuns. | ||
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On January 07 2016 19:23 lolfail9001 wrote: How can you not even root for a team that wins in 18 minutes with 0 stuns. OK im idiot i meant to say I am rooting for TS because exactly 2 games 2 totally different strats and great heroes like Treant and Ench | ||
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I can't even, the laggggg T_T Na vi brought it back tho :D | ||
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On January 07 2016 19:47 maze. wrote: What's the reason for AC over Butterfly? Evasion should be core against Ench/Sven. Dispersion rework makes AC sick good for dispersion damage. | ||
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lolfail9001
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On January 07 2016 19:54 Racket wrote: ArtStyle keeps missing the iceblast's timing You mean the part where Dendi skewers them right when AA ult is aimed? | ||
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On January 07 2016 19:55 lolfail9001 wrote: You mean the part where Dendi skewers them right when AA ult is aimed? No, I mean the part where the CC of RP runs out and you gotta CC them again to stop them from moving. | ||
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Or that could happen xD | ||
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On January 07 2016 20:06 Stancel wrote: dendi is back But for how long? I'm hoping it will be until the Majors... | ||
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On January 07 2016 20:06 Stancel wrote: dendi is back Off-Topic, how come do you live in the Vatican? | ||
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On January 07 2016 20:03 Stancel wrote: sonneiko using macropyre to clear goblak's trees is my favorite thing about this game Yeap... It was like "Is it this tree? Or that tree? ... FUCK THIS!" *spit fire* | ||
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On January 07 2016 20:09 V1ctor wrote: groups are bo3 or bo2? bo2 Anyone knows how Empire vs Mamas went? | ||
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lolfail9001
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Lycan vs LD happened. Lycan won as he always does. | ||
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On January 07 2016 20:12 lolfail9001 wrote: Lycan vs LD happened. Lycan won as he always does. Hehe, I meant 2-0 1-1 or 0-2, but that helps too | ||
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On January 07 2016 20:17 sunrazgriz wrote: empire momy 1-1 Thank you | ||
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sunrazgriz
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dp with a new skill though | ||
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On January 07 2016 20:46 Lackbleeder wrote: Why are bts & moonduck covering the same game and nobody Empire vs HR >.> +OD and Draskyl. So we had 3 english casts for Spirit vs MB g1? | ||
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On January 07 2016 20:53 babysimba wrote: Pretty funny how he is the only survivor out of Zephyr and everyone was laughing at him for leaving the team and overestimating his own abilities. He was like the only player on zephyr capable of making plays. My issue with him was why he went to Korea in the first place. But considering the environment then, it makes sense for him to make a money move. | ||
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Can we say negative impact fits better the no impact statements? Edit: On January 07 2016 21:45 lolfail9001 wrote: I like how Navi's strat of running double offlane with mid carry moved to Empire with Funn1k/XBOCT. At least Reso drafts and captains... poor Dendi :S | ||
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That was awful. | ||
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Fake edit: by which I mean, how are they playing, I looked up the score vs mb on Liquipedia. | ||
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pops BKB | ||
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On January 07 2016 21:48 eonrulz wrote: How are Empire doing? I'm at a conference, can't watch the game live, but cheering for them regardless. Fake edit: by which I mean, how are they playing, I looked up the score vs mb on Liquipedia. pretty well, they've done some overaggressive stuff as usual like diving a tusk dazzle ursa lineup under a t2 tower like retards but they've pulled through in the end every time in this second series. Not sure if it's actual decent play or if they're just superior to HR in general. Second game just ended, 2-0 for Empire. XBOCT played a really good Weaver the first map and on the second they just put everything onto the shoulders of the godlike Io/Tiny ALOHADANCE/Resolut1on combo again and as it often does for them it worked out this time, too. Funn1k did quite a bit of work on Beastmaster as well since they once more gave him the 1v1 lane he likes so much. | ||
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On January 07 2016 22:10 LennX wrote: Team spirit looking good Just wait until Goblak plays his godly Earthshaker, that is the real deal. Jokes aside, they are looking quite good. Enjoyable to watch for sure. | ||
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Will be interesting to see if Empire can become a legitimate threat like VP or something more like that team that is annoying but never makes it in the end. | ||
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Rooting for Elements in Group B because yokyyyyy, among other reasons. It would be a bit of an upset if they made it to the very top though, I'm still not very convinced by their support duo. On January 07 2016 22:16 Kipsate wrote: I find its refreshing to see XBOCT play on a team that is not Na`Vi. Very! Also allows him to be a bit more flexible, they've already picked him Nightstalker and Spirit Breaker because the mid on this team is actually very capable of playing carry heroes and enjoys it. I mean, they've put Funn1k before him in farm priority on Na'Vi too but that was so long ago it's not relevant, the last couple of months the XBOCT complete hard carry monotony became a bit boring (coupled with the losses :D). | ||
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On January 07 2016 22:25 StarVe wrote: I've been quite impressed with Iceberg the past couple of months, might turn out to become a pretty successful mid player. Rooting for Elements in Group B because yokyyyyy, among other reasons. It would be a bit of an upset if they made it to the very top though, I'm still not very convinced by their support duo. So you're saying they don't have the right Elements of a top team?  | ||
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On January 07 2016 22:27 eonrulz wrote: So you're saying they don't have the right Elements of a top team? Kinda! I'd be happy to be proven wrong though! | ||
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it's also cool with omni repel to remove them :p | ||
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sad dark seer times | ||
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On January 07 2016 23:00 Pandemona wrote: 12 minutes in Dark Seer solo lane and is level 5 sad dark seer timesIts a problem for sure. DS is a useless hero without a lot of levels and mek | ||
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On January 07 2016 23:00 Pandemona wrote: 12 minutes in Dark Seer solo lane and is level 5 sad dark seer timesOracle pretty much hard counters dark seer. | ||
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WHY LIQUID WHY | ||
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Oracle pretty much hard counters everything. | ||
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On January 07 2016 23:27 Pandemona wrote: s had a great game on his PA but no one else was doing any good for rox Tornado RoX.KIS, please do not shorten such a beautiful name. | ||
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On January 07 2016 23:30 Verniy wrote: does anyone recognize the name rox.kis for any reason other than the fact that it was the team solo was on when he 322'd? i remember that name for bzz and his slardar...goblak used to pick this same lineup everytime and give him slardar..lmao | ||
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On January 07 2016 23:36 Kamisamanachi wrote: i remember that name for bzz and his slardar...goblak used to pick this same lineup everytime and give him slardar..lmao Starcraft? | ||
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dota 2? yol , bzz, goblak, sedoy +1 idk | ||
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On January 07 2016 23:39 Kamisamanachi wrote: dota 2? yol , bzz, goblak, sedoy +1 idk Sorry meant that I knew the name rox.kis from starcraft | ||
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On January 07 2016 23:30 Verniy wrote: does anyone recognize the name rox.kis for any reason other than the fact that it was the team solo was on when he 322'd? fraer, Titan, slivko, LiveZerg, BRAT_OK | ||
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On January 07 2016 23:41 YourGoodFriend wrote: Sorry meant that I knew the name rox.kis from starcraft ahh...i misunderstood then..sorry from my side too.i also know them from starcraft..i thought that guy was asking in context of dota 2 | ||
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OTOH, feeding jugg is not the smartest idea neither :D | ||
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but matumbaman is there to carry them | ||
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On January 08 2016 00:58 Vadrigar wrote: damn what a comeback. GG Masturbaman! The only reason they turned this around were great stuns by Mind Control. Matumba did his job, but he wasn't the one winning the game. | ||
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Also nyx with clutch double impale to save am from dying to invoker + jugg. | ||
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On January 08 2016 00:59 CruelZeratul wrote: The only reason they turned this around were great stuns by Mind Control. Matumba did his job, but he wasn't the one winning the game. I mean, it could also be argued that he was also (part of) the reason they were losing the game up to that point, considering he was something like 1-10-0 at one point. Equally, getting those stuns is also just MC doing his job, because he was pretty much Liquid's sole reliable initiator. I'm not trying take away from MC's performance towards the later stages of the game. I'm just saying, wins like this are a team effort, and it's a little silly to give sole credit for the win to a single player just because of a couple of plays. | ||
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On January 08 2016 01:04 DucK- wrote: ??? A while ago I saw matu do a short distance blink on jugg which led to him dying quickly and liquid losing mid and bot rax. Then suddenly they win game. What happened? If we're thinking of the same moment (the one where Slardar finished Matu off), that exact death led to RoX attempting to push top, Matu bought back and they got 4-wiped. After that RoX was kinda afraid to fight. Edit: nvm this occured quite a bit later | ||
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On January 08 2016 01:15 Talin wrote: If we're thinking of the same moment (the one where Slardar finished Matu off), that exact death led to RoX attempting to push top, Matu bought back and they got 4-wiped. After that RoX was kinda afraid to fight. Edit: nvm this occured quite a bit later Nah I was referring to when liquid were struggling to defend mid rax. Then matu for some face palm worthy reason did a short range blink on jugg and just died. Then rox took mid and bot rax. I thought game was over haha | ||
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On January 08 2016 01:33 Spicy_Curry wrote: im going to get cancer from listening to these casters what the hell happened? Are you listening to BTS? I had to stop too because they were constantly wrong during the Liquid vs Rox.Kis game. I'm fine with making some predictions but come on. Anyway watching ingame now music since draskyl and od stopped. | ||
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On January 08 2016 02:04 SilverStar wrote: Are you listening to BTS? I had to stop too because they were constantly wrong during the Liquid vs Rox.Kis game. I'm fine with making some predictions but come on. Anyway watching ingame now music since draskyl and od stopped. I suggest ru stream, in case you understand russian | ||
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On January 08 2016 02:56 CruelZeratul wrote: Don't think NaVi have enough dmg to take this late. They just need to hold out for a bit longer. | ||
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On January 08 2016 03:01 eonrulz wrote: Grrr, finish the conference and come back to the hotel to watch AGDQ and the qualifiers, only to discover the free hotel internet is too slow to stream twitch (or watch youtube) on even low settings, and you have to pay £5/hour to get faster internet... Absolute rip-off - that shit should be prohibited, if you're paying for the room. Sue them | ||
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I don't know, send a hooker to the manager's office. Anything to aliviate the pain. | ||
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LICH VANGUARD WTF | ||
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On January 08 2016 03:17 Faruko wrote: what the hell is going on in this game lol I don't know, you tell me. I was away the first 30 minutes | ||
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I'm quite impressed by ax.mo, mainly because navi constantly sacrifices him in the laning phase, and he somehow recovers via ganks. | ||
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On January 08 2016 03:20 Faruko wrote: i dont know, i knew late game was pretty decent for navi but it was looking rough, suddenly axmo and dendi step it up and practically won the game Good, Dendi also played an outstanding game 2 vs TSpirit | ||
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On January 08 2016 03:22 DucK- wrote: This game MB played like 5 individuals. Doom/Qop constantly going for solo pick offs. Rhasta/Sladar farming elsewhere. Meanwhile, Navi played like a team. I'm quite impressed by ax.mo, mainly because navi constantly sacrifices him in the laning phase, and he somehow recovers via ganks. Yes, Na'Vi are looking good. But this is only a qualifier, so im not getting my hopes up. | ||
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On January 08 2016 03:35 V1ctor wrote: Yes, Na'Vi are looking good. But this is only a qualifier, so im not getting my hopes up. If they are not able to look good here then better not even reach main stage. I find it better to lose in a good manner than getting crush independently who crushes them | ||
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fly is casting DC vs EWolves, might change to Liquid vs LC g2. | ||
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On January 08 2016 03:35 V1ctor wrote: Yes, Na'Vi are looking good. But this is only a qualifier, so im not getting my hopes up. They're still playing the best competition available in Europe barring the top 3. | ||
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On January 08 2016 04:27 maze. wrote: www.hitbox.tv/fly fly is casting DC vs EWolves, might change to Liquid vs LC g2. ty kindly, watching moonduck gave me a headache | ||
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On January 08 2016 04:55 Orome wrote: ty kindly, watching moonduck gave me a headache That cast pissed me off more than the dc loss Edit: luckily, maut and purge showed up and dc stomped g2 | ||
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Matumbaman is guilty of diving for kills when he can secure rax, Mind_control is guilty of always having a bad game and only relying on big plays to make up for it. | ||
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