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On August 04 2015 10:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:34 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:33 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:32 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:31 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:31 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:30 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:
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But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new. Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft... Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013. RTZ was on Kaipi, he was not full-time but there is no reason to not consider him a pro by that time. Also, StarCraft been here longer than Dota and 2 years is still a long time in it. He was playing in his off time; were we to consider every player who's ever tried to play tournaments on a third rate team a pro, then no one in Dota is new. Except Sumail. My point exactly. That's a stupid way of looking at this game. By that argument, no one in Starcraft is new too. And what makes you think this argument is wrong? Also, i talk tier 2/3 teams in WPC ACE, i don't talk about random online qualifiers. Because it is wrong. Playing on a fully professional team is very different from playing on a team that doesn't even have a team house. Lol, how many teams do you think had team houses from TI1-4?
Every top Chinese team + the best Western teams.
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On August 04 2015 10:35 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:32 PhoenixVoid wrote:On August 04 2015 10:31 bagels21 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:30 Daralii wrote:On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh. "One" meaning one tournament, of course. Misery's the only good player on the team, the others should've faded into irrelevance after TI4. I feel bad for Jack for paying them. i still think swapping aui_2000/pld out was stupid pld I didn't mind too much but losing Aui was a mistake. they were a package pair and at least c9 was consistent now they just flop and on extremely rare occasions give you hope i miss SPG
idk if c9 even gives you hope now
at TI4 C9 beat VG IG and EG in groups
this TI they lost 2-0 to every team above them and 2-0ed every team below them in their group except Navi
they're just another shitty mediocre european also ran, no magic at all
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On August 04 2015 10:36 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:34 Sabu113 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:31 bagels21 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:30 Daralii wrote:On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh. "One" meaning one tournament, of course. Misery's the only good player on the team, the others should've faded into irrelevance after TI4. I feel bad for Jack for paying them. i still think swapping aui_2000/pld out was stupid once upon a time NoTail was a great player. God this has to be the worst incarnation of c9 yet. Blargh. I expected more than *that*. Yes and somehow C9 ruined him. :/
really want to see him on a core
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On August 04 2015 10:35 Faruko wrote:
So koreans are forced to do military service ?
I think this is an opportunity for the most tasteless "literally killing esports" joke of all time.
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They're doing a really stellar job building storylines for this TI and I love it, but it's a bit unfortunate to have so much footage to get through when things are already running so late.
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On August 04 2015 10:36 Kommander wrote:
Wow I didn't know March could speak English, that's a pleasant surprise.
I believe most if not all the Koreans on the MVP teams are fluent in English.
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So, you guys think C9 will disband after this TI or at least have roster changes?
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On August 04 2015 10:36 eieio wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:35 Faruko wrote:
So koreans are forced to do military service ? I'm baffled in the best way that someone could be on a Liquid site and not know this :D
lmao, got rekt by eieio ._.
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Vatican City State2902 Posts
Fata and notail deserve better than to be on c9. Misery has never impressed me too much. Bone and EE are incapable of tournament play.
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On August 04 2015 10:32 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:31 TheTenthDoc wrote:On August 04 2015 10:30 bagels21 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh. the worst shit is if they beat VG/Na'Vi then flop in their next match I think it'd be worse if they flopped to VG/Na'Vi. c9 does this little thing where they give you hope and then crushes it
C9 has a really bad record against VG. I think VG understands how they approach the game very well. Of course VG has to make it to them first.
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On August 04 2015 10:36 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:34 Sabu113 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:31 bagels21 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:30 Daralii wrote:On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh. "One" meaning one tournament, of course. Misery's the only good player on the team, the others should've faded into irrelevance after TI4. I feel bad for Jack for paying them. i still think swapping aui_2000/pld out was stupid once upon a time NoTail was a great player. God this has to be the worst incarnation of c9 yet. Blargh. I expected more than *that*. Once upon a time when Elder Titan and Wisp were overpowered. He hasn't been actually good since he was playing Slither mid.
pollywog priest tho
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On August 04 2015 10:34 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:33 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:32 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:31 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:31 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:30 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
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Secret and EG are full of old talent But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new. Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft... Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013. RTZ was on Kaipi, he was not full-time but there is no reason to not consider him a pro by that time. Also, StarCraft been here longer than Dota and 2 years is still a long time in it. He was playing in his off time; were we to consider every player who's ever tried to play tournaments on a third rate team a pro, then no one in Dota is new. Except Sumail. My point exactly. That's a stupid way of looking at this game. By that argument, no one in Starcraft is new too. And what makes you think this argument is wrong? Also, i talk tier 2/3 teams in WPC ACE, i don't talk about random online qualifiers. Because it is wrong. Playing on a professional team is very different from playing on a team that doesn't even have a team house.
C9 does not have a team house, does that not make them professional? Hell, Empire were renting out a house for their bootcamp as well.
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On August 04 2015 10:36 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:On August 04 2015 10:34 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:33 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:32 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:31 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:31 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:30 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
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Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft... Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013. RTZ was on Kaipi, he was not full-time but there is no reason to not consider him a pro by that time. Also, StarCraft been here longer than Dota and 2 years is still a long time in it. He was playing in his off time; were we to consider every player who's ever tried to play tournaments on a third rate team a pro, then no one in Dota is new. Except Sumail. My point exactly. That's a stupid way of looking at this game. By that argument, no one in Starcraft is new too. And what makes you think this argument is wrong? Also, i talk tier 2/3 teams in WPC ACE, i don't talk about random online qualifiers. Because it is wrong. Playing on a fully professional team is very different from playing on a team that doesn't even have a team house. Lol, how many teams do you think had team houses from TI1-4? Every top Chinese team + the best Western teams.
So Universe and Aui are new players because the first 3-4 years of their careers they didn't have a team house.
Logic seems solid, confirmed new players better than everyone.
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Mu has pretty questionable hair.
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On August 04 2015 10:37 ptbl wrote:
So, you guys think C9 will disband after this TI or at least have roster changes?
Liquid`EternalEnvy
Liquid`Black^
Liquid`n0tail
confirmed
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Hopefully this is a quick stomp by MVP, don't want to wait all night for NaVi tears  .
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predicting we'll be done in 6 hours. just enough to go to sleep and wake up for EG
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Germany3128 Posts
On August 04 2015 10:37 ptbl wrote:
So, you guys think C9 will disband after this TI or at least have roster changes?
Yes, but I have no Idea what will be changed.
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On August 04 2015 10:38 icystorage wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:37 ptbl wrote:
So, you guys think C9 will disband after this TI or at least have roster changes? Liquid`EternalEnvy Liquid`Black^ Liquid`n0tail confirmed
Ugh. You're talking about my dreams again.
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