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I guess the demise of the Chinese was greatly exaggerated. LGD and especially CDEC was pretty impressive.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 04 2015 10:31 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:30 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote:
CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old. Secret and EG are full of old talent But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new. Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft... Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013. RTZ was on Kaipi, he was not full-time but there is no reason to not consider him a pro by that time. Also, StarCraft been here longer than Dota and 2 years is still a long time in it. He was playing in his off time; were we to consider every player who's ever tried to play tournaments on a third rate team a pro, then no one in Dota is new. Except Sumail.
My point exactly.
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Sanya12364 Posts
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On August 04 2015 10:31 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:30 bagels21 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh. the worst shit is if they beat VG/Na'Vi then flop in their next match I think it'd be worse if they flopped to VG/Na'Vi.
c9 does this little thing where they give you hope and then crushes it
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On August 04 2015 10:31 TheNewEra wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:30 Daralii wrote:On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh. "One" meaning one tournament, of course. Misery's the only good player on the team, the others should've faded into irrelevance after TI4. I feel bad for Jack for paying them. Can you stop it please Mensol?
I will stop shitting on them when they start being good.
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On August 04 2015 10:31 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:31 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:30 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote:
CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old. Secret and EG are full of old talent But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new. Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft... Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013. RTZ was on Kaipi, he was not full-time but there is no reason to not consider him a pro by that time. Also, StarCraft been here longer than Dota and 2 years is still a long time in it. He was playing in his off time; were we to consider every player who's ever tried to play tournaments on a third rate team a pro, then no one in Dota is new. Except Sumail. My point exactly.
That's a stupid way of looking at this game. By that argument, no one in Starcraft in the last several years is new too.
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On August 04 2015 10:31 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:30 Daralii wrote:On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh. "One" meaning one tournament, of course. Misery's the only good player on the team, the others should've faded into irrelevance after TI4. I feel bad for Jack for paying them. i still think swapping aui_2000/pld out was stupid
pld I didn't mind too much but losing Aui was a mistake.
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Ok guys another hour until next game at this rate I'm out ridiculus downtime between games.
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United States47024 Posts
On August 04 2015 10:30 lolfail9001 wrote:
RTZ was on Kaipi, he was not full-time but there is no reason to not consider him a pro by that time. Also, StarCraft been here longer than Dota and 2 years is still a long time in it.
In Starcraft a player whose apparent prime was in 2007-2008 would not be able to come back and win an international tournament in 2013.
I don't want to start an argument about mechanical demand, but from their respective histories, it's pretty clear that Starcraft is a game that's way more punishing to older players that are past their prime. The comparison to Starcraft in this regard is really not that appropriate.
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On August 04 2015 10:31 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:30 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote:
CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old. Secret and EG are full of old talent But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new. Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft... Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013. RTZ was on Kaipi, he was not full-time but there is no reason to not consider him a pro by that time. Also, StarCraft been here longer than Dota and 2 years is still a long time in it. He was playing in his off time; were we to consider every player who's ever tried to play tournaments on a third rate team a pro, then no one in Dota is new. Not even Sumail.
Yes, shockingly, every pro does not come out of nowhere.
So sorry to kill your narrative.
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On August 04 2015 10:29 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:27 Daralii wrote:On August 04 2015 10:26 trifecta wrote:
did c9 do any prep at all? that was ti3 mouz level shit. Their prep consisted of watching Nisekoi while EE masturbated. we are all broken daralii
Not banning gyro vs cdec in game 1 was the most obvious sign that they had no idea what they were doing and herp derp picked NP.....
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On August 04 2015 10:31 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:30 Daralii wrote:On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh. "One" meaning one tournament, of course. Misery's the only good player on the team, the others should've faded into irrelevance after TI4. I feel bad for Jack for paying them. i still think swapping aui_2000/pld out was stupid
Should've swapped out EE/Bone
You cant make a championship team off those 2
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On August 04 2015 10:32 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:31 bagels21 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:30 Daralii wrote:On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh. "One" meaning one tournament, of course. Misery's the only good player on the team, the others should've faded into irrelevance after TI4. I feel bad for Jack for paying them. i still think swapping aui_2000/pld out was stupid pld I didn't mind too much but losing Aui was a mistake.
EE's a social recluse and found himself actually developing a friendship with Aui, had to kick him before it could strengthen.
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On August 04 2015 10:32 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:31 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:30 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote:
CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old. Secret and EG are full of old talent But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new. Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft... Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013. RTZ was on Kaipi, he was not full-time but there is no reason to not consider him a pro by that time. Also, StarCraft been here longer than Dota and 2 years is still a long time in it. He was playing in his off time; were we to consider every player who's ever tried to play tournaments on a third rate team a pro, then no one in Dota is new. Not even Sumail. Yes, shockingly, every pro does not come out of nowhere. So sorry to kill your narrative.
Nobody comes out of no where. Doesn't = there isn't new talent.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 04 2015 10:32 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:31 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:31 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:30 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote:
CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old. Secret and EG are full of old talent But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new. Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft... Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013. RTZ was on Kaipi, he was not full-time but there is no reason to not consider him a pro by that time. Also, StarCraft been here longer than Dota and 2 years is still a long time in it. He was playing in his off time; were we to consider every player who's ever tried to play tournaments on a third rate team a pro, then no one in Dota is new. Except Sumail. My point exactly. That's a stupid way of looking at this game. By that argument, no one in Starcraft is new too.
And what makes you think this argument is wrong? Also, i talk tier 2/3 teams in WPC ACE, i don't talk about random online qualifiers.
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MAAAAAAARCH I LOVE YOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUU.
For real March and QO better carry this shit against Newbee. Korea hwaitiiiiiiiiiiiiing!
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On August 04 2015 10:32 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:30 lolfail9001 wrote:
RTZ was on Kaipi, he was not full-time but there is no reason to not consider him a pro by that time. Also, StarCraft been here longer than Dota and 2 years is still a long time in it. In Starcraft a player whose apparent prime was in 2007-2008 would not be able to come back and win an international tournament in 2013. I don't want to start an argument about mechanical demand, but from their respective histories, it's pretty clear that Starcraft is a game that's way more punishing to older players that are past their prime. The comparison to Starcraft in this regard is really not that appropriate.
RIP BISU
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LD staff where is my CDEC flair??? D':
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On August 04 2015 10:32 Ravensong170 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:29 bagels21 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:27 Daralii wrote:On August 04 2015 10:26 trifecta wrote:
did c9 do any prep at all? that was ti3 mouz level shit. Their prep consisted of watching Nisekoi while EE masturbated. we are all broken daralii Not banning gyro vs cdec in game 1 was the most obvious sign that they had no idea what they were doing and herp derp picked NP.....
IMO giving garder and shiki their heroes was worse
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EPT
