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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 04 2015 01:28 GMT
#5041
On August 04 2015 10:27 dutchfriese wrote:
impressive performance by cdec. They way they moved as a team and their positioning in team fights was top notch. Completely out played C9

Lets be honest, 5 random people on LD could join a lobby and outplay C9.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
August 04 2015 01:29 GMT
#5042
Oooh StarCraft mention on stream by Waga.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11108 Posts
August 04 2015 01:29 GMT
#5043
God I am saltier than PPD.

How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
August 04 2015 01:29 GMT
#5044
On August 04 2015 10:27 TheTenthDoc wrote:
After that series I half think that EG picking CoL might have been a kindness.

Just think NA dota!

But this is definitely a regional self-kill
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 04 2015 01:29 GMT
#5045
On August 04 2015 10:28 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:26 Doraemon wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote:
CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old.

On August 04 2015 10:24 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Is Azarkon on suicide watch


No, because Secret is still going to win. In fact, this helps my argument about new talent.


what?

Azarkon never heard about CDEC's players before so he assumes they are new to pro Dota. Matter of fact, Maybe was new-est talent on CDEC, rest were old struggle pr0z.


According to one of their players he's only played professionally for a year, so...?
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 04 2015 01:29 GMT
#5046
On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote:
CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old.

Secret and EG are full of old talent


But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new.

Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft...


Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013.

Apparently Kaipi and Speed never existed.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2867 Posts
August 04 2015 01:29 GMT
#5047
I have trouble taking this too seriously as evidence of China's relative strength. The way the bracket cookie crumbled was pretty heavily in favor of an East vs. West upper bracket finals. Best Chinese team and Cinderella story against relatively weak Western opponents in the top half of the brackets, and the two Western teams that are actually good in the bottom half.

The real contest will be the upper bracket finals.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 04 2015 01:29 GMT
#5048
On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote:
CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old.

Secret and EG are full of old talent


But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new.

Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft...


Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013.

Sure, but has competitive DotA been around for just as long? Arteezy did well in 2013 as a pro-gamer, and also was probably a great player for longer than that...
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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 04 2015 01:29 GMT
#5049
On August 04 2015 10:27 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:26 trifecta wrote:
did c9 do any prep at all? that was ti3 mouz level shit.

Their prep consisted of watching Nisekoi while EE masturbated.


we are all broken daralii
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
August 04 2015 01:29 GMT
#5050
The amount of delays and interruptions in that game were not worthy of the $1,200,000 that were at stake, I feel bad for the players. That said CDEC sure has surprised me with their performance!
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 01:30 GMT
#5051
On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote:
CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old.

Secret and EG are full of old talent


But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new.

Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft...


Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013.

RTZ was on Kaipi, he was not full-time but there is no reason to not consider him a pro by that time. Also, StarCraft been here longer than Dota and 2 years is still a long time in it.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 04 2015 01:30 GMT
#5052
On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.

How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh.


the worst shit is if they beat VG/Na'Vi then flop in their next match
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 04 2015 01:30 GMT
#5053
On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.

How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh.

"One" meaning one tournament, of course. Misery's the only good player on the team, the others should've faded into irrelevance after TI4. I feel bad for Jack for paying them.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 01:30 GMT
#5054
On August 04 2015 10:29 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:28 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:26 Doraemon wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote:
CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old.

On August 04 2015 10:24 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Is Azarkon on suicide watch


No, because Secret is still going to win. In fact, this helps my argument about new talent.


what?

Azarkon never heard about CDEC's players before so he assumes they are new to pro Dota. Matter of fact, Maybe was new-est talent on CDEC, rest were old struggle pr0z.


According to one of their players he's only played professionally for a year, so...?

"One". At least Q/Xz (or someone else) were on tier 2/3 teams in 2013.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 01:31:45
August 04 2015 01:31 GMT
#5055
On August 04 2015 10:30 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote:
CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old.

Secret and EG are full of old talent


But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new.

Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft...


Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013.

RTZ was on Kaipi, he was not full-time but there is no reason to not consider him a pro by that time. Also, StarCraft been here longer than Dota and 2 years is still a long time in it.


He was playing in his off time; were we to consider every player who's ever tried to play tournaments on a third rate team a pro, then no one in Dota is new. Not even Sumail.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 04 2015 01:31 GMT
#5056
On August 04 2015 10:30 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.

How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh.

"One" meaning one tournament, of course. Misery's the only good player on the team, the others should've faded into irrelevance after TI4. I feel bad for Jack for paying them.

Can you stop it please Mensol?
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
August 04 2015 01:31 GMT
#5057
On August 04 2015 10:29 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:27 TheTenthDoc wrote:
After that series I half think that EG picking CoL might have been a kindness.

Just think NA dota!

But this is definitely a regional self-kill


No, it's old school grudge match between two people that have an axe to grind.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 01:32:09
August 04 2015 01:31 GMT
#5058
On August 04 2015 10:30 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.

How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh.


the worst shit is if they beat VG/Na'Vi then flop in their next match


I think it'd be worse if they flopped to VG/Na'Vi.

On August 04 2015 10:31 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:29 TanGeng wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:27 TheTenthDoc wrote:
After that series I half think that EG picking CoL might have been a kindness.

Just think NA dota!

But this is definitely a regional self-kill


No, it's old school grudge match between two people that have an axe to grind.


I still have no idea how the hell Swindle and Moon function on a team together.
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 04 2015 01:31 GMT
#5059
On August 04 2015 10:30 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.

How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh.

"One" meaning one tournament, of course. Misery's the only good player on the team, the others should've faded into irrelevance after TI4. I feel bad for Jack for paying them.


i still think swapping aui_2000/pld out was stupid
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
August 04 2015 01:31 GMT
#5060
do I jump onto the EG or Secret wagon now

fuck C9 i have no hopes left after those games
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