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On August 04 2015 10:27 dutchfriese wrote: impressive performance by cdec. They way they moved as a team and their positioning in team fights was top notch. Completely out played C9 Lets be honest, 5 random people on LD could join a lobby and outplay C9.
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Oooh StarCraft mention on stream by Waga.
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God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh.
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Sanya12364 Posts
On August 04 2015 10:27 TheTenthDoc wrote: After that series I half think that EG picking CoL might have been a kindness. Just think NA dota!
But this is definitely a regional self-kill
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On August 04 2015 10:28 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:26 Doraemon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote: CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old. On August 04 2015 10:24 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Is Azarkon on suicide watch No, because Secret is still going to win. In fact, this helps my argument about new talent. what? Azarkon never heard about CDEC's players before so he assumes they are new to pro Dota. Matter of fact, Maybe was new-est talent on CDEC, rest were old struggle pr0z.
According to one of their players he's only played professionally for a year, so...?
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On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote: CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old. Secret and EG are full of old talent But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new. Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft... Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013. Apparently Kaipi and Speed never existed.
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I have trouble taking this too seriously as evidence of China's relative strength. The way the bracket cookie crumbled was pretty heavily in favor of an East vs. West upper bracket finals. Best Chinese team and Cinderella story against relatively weak Western opponents in the top half of the brackets, and the two Western teams that are actually good in the bottom half.
The real contest will be the upper bracket finals.
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On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote: CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old. Secret and EG are full of old talent But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new. Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft... Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013. Sure, but has competitive DotA been around for just as long? Arteezy did well in 2013 as a pro-gamer, and also was probably a great player for longer than that...
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On August 04 2015 10:27 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:26 trifecta wrote: did c9 do any prep at all? that was ti3 mouz level shit. Their prep consisted of watching Nisekoi while EE masturbated.
we are all broken daralii
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The amount of delays and interruptions in that game were not worthy of the $1,200,000 that were at stake, I feel bad for the players. That said CDEC sure has surprised me with their performance!
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote: CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old. Secret and EG are full of old talent But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new. Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft... Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013. RTZ was on Kaipi, he was not full-time but there is no reason to not consider him a pro by that time. Also, StarCraft been here longer than Dota and 2 years is still a long time in it.
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On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote: God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh.
the worst shit is if they beat VG/Na'Vi then flop in their next match
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On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote: God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh. "One" meaning one tournament, of course. Misery's the only good player on the team, the others should've faded into irrelevance after TI4. I feel bad for Jack for paying them.
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On August 04 2015 10:29 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:28 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 04 2015 10:26 Doraemon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote: CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old. On August 04 2015 10:24 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:23 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Is Azarkon on suicide watch No, because Secret is still going to win. In fact, this helps my argument about new talent. what? Azarkon never heard about CDEC's players before so he assumes they are new to pro Dota. Matter of fact, Maybe was new-est talent on CDEC, rest were old struggle pr0z. According to one of their players he's only played professionally for a year, so...? "One". At least Q/Xz (or someone else) were on tier 2/3 teams in 2013.
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On August 04 2015 10:30 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:28 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:26 IntoTheheart wrote:On August 04 2015 10:25 Azarkon wrote:On August 04 2015 10:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:On August 04 2015 10:23 Azarkon wrote: CDEC winning this shows yet again that new talent > old. Secret and EG are full of old talent But both have new talent. Well, in the case of Secret it's two year old talent, but still pretty new. Isn't 2 years a long time in competitive gaming though? I wouldn't call someone a "young gun" if they started playing professionally 2 years ago in StarCraft... Are we talking about Dota? Dota is a game that's been around for 10+ years. Arteezy was not even a professional in 2013. RTZ was on Kaipi, he was not full-time but there is no reason to not consider him a pro by that time. Also, StarCraft been here longer than Dota and 2 years is still a long time in it.
He was playing in his off time; were we to consider every player who's ever tried to play tournaments on a third rate team a pro, then no one in Dota is new. Not even Sumail.
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Germany3128 Posts
On August 04 2015 10:30 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote: God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh. "One" meaning one tournament, of course. Misery's the only good player on the team, the others should've faded into irrelevance after TI4. I feel bad for Jack for paying them. Can you stop it please Mensol?
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On August 04 2015 10:29 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:27 TheTenthDoc wrote: After that series I half think that EG picking CoL might have been a kindness. Just think NA dota! But this is definitely a regional self-kill
No, it's old school grudge match between two people that have an axe to grind.
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On August 04 2015 10:30 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote: God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh. the worst shit is if they beat VG/Na'Vi then flop in their next match
I think it'd be worse if they flopped to VG/Na'Vi.
On August 04 2015 10:31 the bear jew wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:29 TanGeng wrote:On August 04 2015 10:27 TheTenthDoc wrote: After that series I half think that EG picking CoL might have been a kindness. Just think NA dota! But this is definitely a regional self-kill No, it's old school grudge match between two people that have an axe to grind.
I still have no idea how the hell Swindle and Moon function on a team together.
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On August 04 2015 10:30 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote: God I am saltier than PPD.
How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh. "One" meaning one tournament, of course. Misery's the only good player on the team, the others should've faded into irrelevance after TI4. I feel bad for Jack for paying them.
i still think swapping aui_2000/pld out was stupid
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do I jump onto the EG or Secret wagon now
fuck C9 i have no hopes left after those games
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