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On June 21 2015 22:31 Mouzone wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 22:25 goody153 wrote:On June 21 2015 22:23 Mouzone wrote:On June 21 2015 22:19 goody153 wrote:On June 21 2015 22:17 Mouzone wrote:On June 21 2015 22:16 Skillver wrote:
Arteezy really has become an even better player the last few months. Gonna be a treat seeing RTZ vs. Sumail. They've both been monstrous this tournament. can't really compare them when rtz plays 1 position and suma1l goes mid mainly s4 and suma1l though .. also if you follow NA scene rtz usually owns suma1l on the midlane with even~ish matchup I'm not talking about the laning stage, more like their overall performances. then again if that's the case you can't compare them you can compare s4 and suma1l though but if you wanna compare them like for storyline or some shit then sure Why wouldn't they be comparable? They both play cores and have quite a few overlapping heroes like Lesh and SF for instance. I find it very easy to compare their performances in a game.
Cause after the laning phase you will find rtz farming and suma1l doing s4/zai things. That's why but if you wanna really compare then rtz is obviously better. Like sure suma1l plays more heroes but suma1l does a lot stupid shit like feeding necessarily. You won't see that with rtz.
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that sunsfans shit is the most overrated shit ever and i generally like him as a caster
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On June 21 2015 22:34 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
that sunsfans shit is the most overrated shit ever and i generally like him as a caster
is it rated? idk I thought it was funny but I don't usually go to reddit if it's used all the time or something. sunsfan is probably my favorite caster because humor and having fun > talking about who is last hitting.
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On June 21 2015 22:33 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 22:24 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:16 Skillver wrote:
Arteezy really has become an even better player the last few months. He used to be my most disliked player, but he really, really has. You can even see it when he's just casually pubbing. Dude is seriously good. When Arteezy first joined EG you could tell he was something else. He was a remarkable talent, young and brash, but if he was on his game he was easily a step above everyone in the world. He was something special. Unfortunately there were the internal issues in EG and he very obviously lost his passion. Even right after joining Secret he wasn't his old self. But now it's pretty obvious he got his spark back. He's confident, he's knocked the malaise off and he's looking like the old Arteezy again. He's back to being the single most dominant player there is and he's quite terrifying.
I would have seriously wanted the old eg more than this new secret honestly  both rosters had similar potential
also EE wasn't kidding before when he said that rtz is far better than anybody he's ever played with during the times they still 1v1'd and talked alot
On June 21 2015 22:34 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
that sunsfans shit is the most overrated shit ever and i generally like him as a caster
i fucking love him as a caster he doesn't pretend he knows alot and he's fun to listen to cause he says a lot of crazy shit
On June 21 2015 22:36 lolnoty wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 22:34 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
that sunsfans shit is the most overrated shit ever and i generally like him as a caster is it rated? idk I thought it was funny but I don't usually go to reddit if it's used all the time or something. sunsfan is probably my favorite caster because humor and having fun > talking about who is last hitting.
i like the LD he was more like humoring/having fun especially when he was casting with blitz some time ago
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On June 21 2015 22:33 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 22:24 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:16 Skillver wrote:
Arteezy really has become an even better player the last few months. He used to be my most disliked player, but he really, really has. You can even see it when he's just casually pubbing. Dude is seriously good. When Arteezy first joined EG you could tell he was something else. He was a remarkable talent, young and brash, but if he was on his game he was easily a step above everyone in the world. He was something special. Unfortunately there were the internal issues in EG and he very obviously lost his passion. Even right after joining Secret he wasn't his old self. But now it's pretty obvious he got his spark back. He's confident, he's knocked the malaise off and he's looking like the old Arteezy again. He's back to being the single most dominant player there is and he's quite terrifying.
Eh, why ruin something good by exaggerating. He is a remarkable talent, he's easily one of the best players in the world, but he wasn't 'easily a step above everyone in the world' when he first joined EG.
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On June 21 2015 22:37 Orome wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 22:33 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 21 2015 22:24 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:16 Skillver wrote:
Arteezy really has become an even better player the last few months. He used to be my most disliked player, but he really, really has. You can even see it when he's just casually pubbing. Dude is seriously good. When Arteezy first joined EG you could tell he was something else. He was a remarkable talent, young and brash, but if he was on his game he was easily a step above everyone in the world. He was something special. Unfortunately there were the internal issues in EG and he very obviously lost his passion. Even right after joining Secret he wasn't his old self. But now it's pretty obvious he got his spark back. He's confident, he's knocked the malaise off and he's looking like the old Arteezy again. He's back to being the single most dominant player there is and he's quite terrifying. Eh, why ruin something good by exaggerating. He is a remarkable talent, he's easily one of the best players in the world, but he wasn't 'easily a step above everyone in the world' when he first joined EG.
he literally was a step above if you consider that he changed the mid meta and many teams scrambled to get their mids to learn to play the heroes he did. being ahead in the optimal way to play a role is definitely "a step ahead"
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On June 21 2015 22:36 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 22:33 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 21 2015 22:24 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:16 Skillver wrote:
Arteezy really has become an even better player the last few months. He used to be my most disliked player, but he really, really has. You can even see it when he's just casually pubbing. Dude is seriously good. When Arteezy first joined EG you could tell he was something else. He was a remarkable talent, young and brash, but if he was on his game he was easily a step above everyone in the world. He was something special. Unfortunately there were the internal issues in EG and he very obviously lost his passion. Even right after joining Secret he wasn't his old self. But now it's pretty obvious he got his spark back. He's confident, he's knocked the malaise off and he's looking like the old Arteezy again. He's back to being the single most dominant player there is and he's quite terrifying. I would have seriously wanted the old eg more than this new secret honestly both rosters had similar potential also EE wasn't kidding before when he said that rtz is far better than anybody he's ever played with during the times they still 1v1'd and talked alot
I'm sad EG didn't sort things out and stick together. The roster was easily the strongest team in the world skill wise.
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On June 21 2015 22:39 lolnoty wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 22:37 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:33 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 21 2015 22:24 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:16 Skillver wrote:
Arteezy really has become an even better player the last few months. He used to be my most disliked player, but he really, really has. You can even see it when he's just casually pubbing. Dude is seriously good. When Arteezy first joined EG you could tell he was something else. He was a remarkable talent, young and brash, but if he was on his game he was easily a step above everyone in the world. He was something special. Unfortunately there were the internal issues in EG and he very obviously lost his passion. Even right after joining Secret he wasn't his old self. But now it's pretty obvious he got his spark back. He's confident, he's knocked the malaise off and he's looking like the old Arteezy again. He's back to being the single most dominant player there is and he's quite terrifying. Eh, why ruin something good by exaggerating. He is a remarkable talent, he's easily one of the best players in the world, but he wasn't 'easily a step above everyone in the world' when he first joined EG. he literally was a step above if you consider that he changed the mid meta and many teams scrambled to get their mids to learn to play the heroes he did. being ahead in the optimal way to play a role is definitely "a step ahead"
On June 21 2015 22:37 Orome wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 22:33 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 21 2015 22:24 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:16 Skillver wrote:
Arteezy really has become an even better player the last few months. He used to be my most disliked player, but he really, really has. You can even see it when he's just casually pubbing. Dude is seriously good. When Arteezy first joined EG you could tell he was something else. He was a remarkable talent, young and brash, but if he was on his game he was easily a step above everyone in the world. He was something special. Unfortunately there were the internal issues in EG and he very obviously lost his passion. Even right after joining Secret he wasn't his old self. But now it's pretty obvious he got his spark back. He's confident, he's knocked the malaise off and he's looking like the old Arteezy again. He's back to being the single most dominant player there is and he's quite terrifying. Eh, why ruin something good by exaggerating. He is a remarkable talent, he's easily one of the best players in the world, but he wasn't 'easily a step above everyone in the world' when he first joined EG.
Idk about you guys but his taste in music is easily a step above everyone in the world xD
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On June 21 2015 22:40 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 22:39 lolnoty wrote:On June 21 2015 22:37 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:33 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 21 2015 22:24 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:16 Skillver wrote:
Arteezy really has become an even better player the last few months. He used to be my most disliked player, but he really, really has. You can even see it when he's just casually pubbing. Dude is seriously good. When Arteezy first joined EG you could tell he was something else. He was a remarkable talent, young and brash, but if he was on his game he was easily a step above everyone in the world. He was something special. Unfortunately there were the internal issues in EG and he very obviously lost his passion. Even right after joining Secret he wasn't his old self. But now it's pretty obvious he got his spark back. He's confident, he's knocked the malaise off and he's looking like the old Arteezy again. He's back to being the single most dominant player there is and he's quite terrifying. Eh, why ruin something good by exaggerating. He is a remarkable talent, he's easily one of the best players in the world, but he wasn't 'easily a step above everyone in the world' when he first joined EG. he literally was a step above if you consider that he changed the mid meta and many teams scrambled to get their mids to learn to play the heroes he did. being ahead in the optimal way to play a role is definitely "a step ahead" Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 22:37 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:33 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 21 2015 22:24 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:16 Skillver wrote:
Arteezy really has become an even better player the last few months. He used to be my most disliked player, but he really, really has. You can even see it when he's just casually pubbing. Dude is seriously good. When Arteezy first joined EG you could tell he was something else. He was a remarkable talent, young and brash, but if he was on his game he was easily a step above everyone in the world. He was something special. Unfortunately there were the internal issues in EG and he very obviously lost his passion. Even right after joining Secret he wasn't his old self. But now it's pretty obvious he got his spark back. He's confident, he's knocked the malaise off and he's looking like the old Arteezy again. He's back to being the single most dominant player there is and he's quite terrifying. Eh, why ruin something good by exaggerating. He is a remarkable talent, he's easily one of the best players in the world, but he wasn't 'easily a step above everyone in the world' when he first joined EG. Idk about you guys but his taste in music is easily a step above everyone in the world xD
Get out, please get out and do not comeback !
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On June 21 2015 22:37 Orome wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 22:33 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 21 2015 22:24 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:16 Skillver wrote:
Arteezy really has become an even better player the last few months. He used to be my most disliked player, but he really, really has. You can even see it when he's just casually pubbing. Dude is seriously good. When Arteezy first joined EG you could tell he was something else. He was a remarkable talent, young and brash, but if he was on his game he was easily a step above everyone in the world. He was something special. Unfortunately there were the internal issues in EG and he very obviously lost his passion. Even right after joining Secret he wasn't his old self. But now it's pretty obvious he got his spark back. He's confident, he's knocked the malaise off and he's looking like the old Arteezy again. He's back to being the single most dominant player there is and he's quite terrifying. Eh, why ruin something good by exaggerating. He is a remarkable talent, he's easily one of the best players in the world, but he wasn't 'easily a step above everyone in the world' when he first joined EG.
He wasn't consistent at first. But you could tell if he played at 100% he was the best player on the planet.
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On June 21 2015 22:41 Faruko wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 22:40 goody153 wrote:On June 21 2015 22:39 lolnoty wrote:On June 21 2015 22:37 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:33 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 21 2015 22:24 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:16 Skillver wrote:
Arteezy really has become an even better player the last few months. He used to be my most disliked player, but he really, really has. You can even see it when he's just casually pubbing. Dude is seriously good. When Arteezy first joined EG you could tell he was something else. He was a remarkable talent, young and brash, but if he was on his game he was easily a step above everyone in the world. He was something special. Unfortunately there were the internal issues in EG and he very obviously lost his passion. Even right after joining Secret he wasn't his old self. But now it's pretty obvious he got his spark back. He's confident, he's knocked the malaise off and he's looking like the old Arteezy again. He's back to being the single most dominant player there is and he's quite terrifying. Eh, why ruin something good by exaggerating. He is a remarkable talent, he's easily one of the best players in the world, but he wasn't 'easily a step above everyone in the world' when he first joined EG. he literally was a step above if you consider that he changed the mid meta and many teams scrambled to get their mids to learn to play the heroes he did. being ahead in the optimal way to play a role is definitely "a step ahead" On June 21 2015 22:37 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:33 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 21 2015 22:24 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:16 Skillver wrote:
Arteezy really has become an even better player the last few months. He used to be my most disliked player, but he really, really has. You can even see it when he's just casually pubbing. Dude is seriously good. When Arteezy first joined EG you could tell he was something else. He was a remarkable talent, young and brash, but if he was on his game he was easily a step above everyone in the world. He was something special. Unfortunately there were the internal issues in EG and he very obviously lost his passion. Even right after joining Secret he wasn't his old self. But now it's pretty obvious he got his spark back. He's confident, he's knocked the malaise off and he's looking like the old Arteezy again. He's back to being the single most dominant player there is and he's quite terrifying. Eh, why ruin something good by exaggerating. He is a remarkable talent, he's easily one of the best players in the world, but he wasn't 'easily a step above everyone in the world' when he first joined EG. Idk about you guys but his taste in music is easily a step above everyone in the world xD Get out, please get out and do not comeback !
i'm sorry mate
On June 21 2015 22:39 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 22:36 goody153 wrote:On June 21 2015 22:33 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 21 2015 22:24 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:16 Skillver wrote:
Arteezy really has become an even better player the last few months. He used to be my most disliked player, but he really, really has. You can even see it when he's just casually pubbing. Dude is seriously good. When Arteezy first joined EG you could tell he was something else. He was a remarkable talent, young and brash, but if he was on his game he was easily a step above everyone in the world. He was something special. Unfortunately there were the internal issues in EG and he very obviously lost his passion. Even right after joining Secret he wasn't his old self. But now it's pretty obvious he got his spark back. He's confident, he's knocked the malaise off and he's looking like the old Arteezy again. He's back to being the single most dominant player there is and he's quite terrifying. I would have seriously wanted the old eg more than this new secret honestly both rosters had similar potential also EE wasn't kidding before when he said that rtz is far better than anybody he's ever played with during the times they still 1v1'd and talked alot I'm sad EG didn't sort things out and stick together. The roster was easily the strongest team in the world skill wise.
even rtz admitted that if they weren't being like children and actually fixed the prroblem everything would have been gucchi
also both ppd (says that old eg has a higher individual skill cap than new eg) and rtz says secret isn't really above old eg he believes the old eg could do the same as secret did
man eg please
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It's amazing EG is still a top tier even after their two major players left. PPD as a captain and drafter can shape up any team.
People give Sumail shit, but just from this tournament alone, he's already progressing into a much more solid player then his "yolo" plays we've seen over the few months. Of course I can probably eat my own words during this grand finals, but I think there's a consensus of giving this kid way more shit than he deserves.
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hahaha nice joke esl couldn't have told before.
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Wtf, timer suddenly a half hour? Ugh
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On June 21 2015 22:34 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
that sunsfans shit is the most overrated shit ever and i generally like him as a caster
Never like sunsfan, his videos are mediocres. His casting basically just trying hard to be funny.
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I hope the caster duos of this tournament will do most games at TI5 aswell. Can anyone imagine Lumi, Ayesee, LD casting the games of ESLOne? ODPixel is alright I guess.
Blitz, Cap, Synderen, Tobi work so well together.
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On June 21 2015 22:42 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 22:37 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:33 OuchyDathurts wrote:On June 21 2015 22:24 Orome wrote:On June 21 2015 22:16 Skillver wrote:
Arteezy really has become an even better player the last few months. He used to be my most disliked player, but he really, really has. You can even see it when he's just casually pubbing. Dude is seriously good. When Arteezy first joined EG you could tell he was something else. He was a remarkable talent, young and brash, but if he was on his game he was easily a step above everyone in the world. He was something special. Unfortunately there were the internal issues in EG and he very obviously lost his passion. Even right after joining Secret he wasn't his old self. But now it's pretty obvious he got his spark back. He's confident, he's knocked the malaise off and he's looking like the old Arteezy again. He's back to being the single most dominant player there is and he's quite terrifying. Eh, why ruin something good by exaggerating. He is a remarkable talent, he's easily one of the best players in the world, but he wasn't 'easily a step above everyone in the world' when he first joined EG. He wasn't consistent at first. But you could tell if he played at 100% he was the best player on the planet.
It's such a pointless argument to make. He pushed boundaries, noone would deny that. But to call him clearly or easily better at the time than Fy, than MMY... It's just not a useful discussion. Plus in Arteezy's case (at least at the time) the qualifier 'when he's at 100%' is a pretty gigantic one. Of course a player who takes a crapton of risks is going to look incredible when they all pay off.
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On June 21 2015 22:49 Danzo wrote:
It's amazing EG is still a top tier even after their two major players left. PPD as a captain and drafter can shape up any team.
People give Sumail shit, but just from this tournament alone, he's already progressing into a much more solid player then his "yolo" plays we've seen over the few months. Of course I can probably eat my own words during this grand finals, but I think there's a consensus of giving this kid way more shit than he deserves.
He plays like he was in DAC, confident and little pressured in lane. Funny thing, he is having a cold.
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