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On October 24 2014 21:02 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 20:59 HammerKick wrote:On October 24 2014 20:57 Daralii wrote:On October 24 2014 20:57 DucK- wrote:
So what went wrong? Did navi try to engage the Bot lane? They're a shit team that shouldn't have bothered coming. They had to deal with a strategy that we haven't seen before. I think an AA with decent levels can do something about it. Even a mid AA would work against what I may call a tanky heal strat. i dunno man the pressure they exert on a trilane is gonna be relevant long before AA hits 6, even from mid (and aa mid is food for roaming ganks)
With only an arrow to setup a gank, it's quite hard to gank with that lineup.
Well, I guess when it's puppey it has to hit whatever happens so...
This won't happen again tho, wisp first ban every game vs secret
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On October 24 2014 21:01 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 20:59 sc14s wrote:On October 24 2014 20:57 Daralii wrote:On October 24 2014 20:57 DucK- wrote:
So what went wrong? Did navi try to engage the Bot lane? They're a shit team that shouldn't have bothered coming. someone is salty their team lost (C9) No salt, just honesty. The current Na'Vi roster is bottom of the barrel even amongst CIS teams and they clearly don't know how to play the patch. Either improve or bow out and give a spot to more deserving teams.
More deserving? Na'Vi still qualified for this, unlike C9 and VP who got in just because Chinese didn't show up.
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Good job Navi management kicking puppey and kuro while keeping xboct . You deserve this and even worse.
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On October 24 2014 21:01 PhoenixVoid wrote:
"Secret Team - I think is missing that power, I dunno. Secret Team is really good on paper something's still missing I feel." - Arteezy
"We already beat Secret Team in scrims. I actually think they suck but apparently they own everyone else. They do decently well with everyone else. Obviously they're not as good as people say they are just based on the star power." - EE
Kinda funny seeing pros talk about Secret like this and we get one hell of a team.
In terms of individual skill, you cannot deny that Secret is a powerhouse.
And this is like their second LAN together. Some more time and I think they'll be even better
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NaVi should've picked Goblin instead fng.
Goblin not as good as ppy but he is a good captain.
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On October 24 2014 21:05 SkelA wrote:
Good job Navi management kicking puppey and kuro while keeping xboct . You deserve this and even worse.
I think they kicked kuro and puppey decided to leave with him. No sources on this tho
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The aggro trilane was still strong because it was 3 ranged vs 2 melee + 1 short ranged...
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On October 24 2014 21:01 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 20:59 sc14s wrote:On October 24 2014 20:57 Daralii wrote:On October 24 2014 20:57 DucK- wrote:
So what went wrong? Did navi try to engage the Bot lane? They're a shit team that shouldn't have bothered coming. someone is salty their team lost (C9) No salt, just honesty. The current Na'Vi roster is bottom of the barrel even amongst CIS teams and they clearly don't know how to play the patch. Either improve or bow out and give a spot to more deserving teams.
Yeah ! its not like c9 got a free pass because some chinesse team didnt want to travel to ukraine
oh wait...
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On October 24 2014 21:02 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 21:00 HaXxorIzed wrote:On October 24 2014 20:57 DucK- wrote:
So what went wrong? Did navi try to engage the Bot lane?
And s4 played very very well. Looked like Navi went on the bottom lane with vanskor at quite low HP (he seemed 250-300?), that failed and they got wiped 3:0. Kuro had wand charges and Navi weren't full HP to start with, I think. Dendi and Funnik then gave up solo kills in both mid and top when they both had substantial CS leads. Game snowballed from there. Well I need to see the bot lane. It was what made the snowball possible. Arguably dying top and mid solo isn't as critical as having 3 heroes so crippled. Wanna know how they loss that lane so hard. According to 7ckngmad, it's cuz navi engaged Necro instead of wisp...
because they didnt go on wisp he could tether to the guy they went on (necro in this case), then wisp uses wand to heal necro, necro does death pulse which heals him, wisp and him again through tether and then navi just rolls over and dies because they used everything on that.
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Shieeeet. Hoping for pinoy pride getting into winner's bracket!
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On October 24 2014 21:07 Koerage wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 21:02 DucK- wrote:On October 24 2014 21:00 HaXxorIzed wrote:On October 24 2014 20:57 DucK- wrote:
So what went wrong? Did navi try to engage the Bot lane?
And s4 played very very well. Looked like Navi went on the bottom lane with vanskor at quite low HP (he seemed 250-300?), that failed and they got wiped 3:0. Kuro had wand charges and Navi weren't full HP to start with, I think. Dendi and Funnik then gave up solo kills in both mid and top when they both had substantial CS leads. Game snowballed from there. Well I need to see the bot lane. It was what made the snowball possible. Arguably dying top and mid solo isn't as critical as having 3 heroes so crippled. Wanna know how they loss that lane so hard. According to 7ckngmad, it's cuz navi engaged Necro instead of wisp... because they didnt go on wisp he could tether to the guy they went on (necro in this case), then wisp uses wand to heal necro, necro does death pulse which heals him, wisp and him again through tether and then navi just rolls over and dies because they used everything on that.
yea i think the key to beating wisp comps has always been to find a way to kill the wisp first somehow, if you let him do his regen shit on anyone else fights are gonna go wrong
of course easier said than done, which is why wisp is so op mang
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Secret went in raw on Na'Vi damn.
They need to bounce back.
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On October 24 2014 21:01 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 20:59 sc14s wrote:On October 24 2014 20:57 Daralii wrote:On October 24 2014 20:57 DucK- wrote:
So what went wrong? Did navi try to engage the Bot lane? They're a shit team that shouldn't have bothered coming. someone is salty their team lost (C9) No salt, just honesty. The current Na'Vi roster is bottom of the barrel even amongst CIS teams and they clearly don't know how to play the patch. Either improve or bow out and give a spot to more deserving teams.
Well, they qualified based on league play so they have every right to be here.
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On October 24 2014 21:06 spacer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2014 21:05 SkelA wrote:
Good job Navi management kicking puppey and kuro while keeping xboct . You deserve this and even worse. I think they kicked kuro and puppey decided to leave with him. No sources on this tho
There was friction between Kuroky and Xboct, Puppey sided with Kuroky, management had nothing to do with it. It was either let them separate or force them to stay when half the team hates the other half, which I doubt would have worked anyway because of how much money Alex Garfield has to throw around.
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On October 24 2014 21:06 Mensol wrote:
NaVi should've picked Goblin instead fng.
Goblin not as good as ppy but he is a good captain.
you mean Goblak? I agree, should've taken him
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That game was insane.
Just to clarify, with death pulse's heal... if it hits wisp and wisp is tethered to necro, necro gets the heal as well from the tether? In essence this leads to twice the effectiveness of the skill for necro himself?
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Navi playing first ? DAMN !! i have to go pick up bayonetta 2 in about an hour 
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On October 24 2014 21:01 PhoenixVoid wrote:
"Secret Team - I think is missing that power, I dunno. Secret Team is really good on paper something's still missing I feel." - Arteezy
"We already beat Secret Team in scrims. I actually think they suck but apparently they own everyone else. They do decently well with everyone else. Obviously they're not as good as people say they are just based on the star power." - EE
Kinda funny seeing pros talk about Secret like this and we get one hell of a team. Secret looks amazing in this group I hope they can deliver vs Group A teams.
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On October 24 2014 21:06 Mensol wrote:
NaVi should've picked Goblin instead fng.
Goblin not as good as ppy but he is a good captain.
Who is this Goblin guy? Maybe you mean Goblack?
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