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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
September 01 2012 17:24 GMT
#10321
really want orange to win, <3 SEA !
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
September 01 2012 17:25 GMT
#10322
On September 02 2012 02:21 Canas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 02:14 Shikyo wrote:
On September 02 2012 02:14 sekritzzz wrote:
On September 02 2012 02:08 Shikyo wrote:
Misery can play Luna? O_O


By the way I feel like writing a super long article about Double Elimination because people seem to have no clue -_- I really am tired of stupid tournament organizers ruining the prestige of their tournaments.

On September 02 2012 02:08 superstartran wrote:
People that say LB isn't a disadvantage in this tournament really don't understand DotA 2 at all. In the LB, you will pull any pocket strat that you have in order to not be eliminated. Revealing these pocket strats early is a massive disadvantage. Revealing such an early strat is BAD. It gives teams time to scout you out and figure out how to counter it. It's a BIG time advantage to be in the WB.

Do you understand that the winners bracket winner has the right to be forced into that position as well instead of being immediately eliminated? God, people really are dense, it's incredible.

Please go do that because your whining is ridiculous, so save us from yourself.

Yes, god forbid I want a 1.6 million tournament to be concluded fairly and want the deserving winner to win.


If you want to win the tournament, you have to beat every team. How could the team that ends up winning not deserve to win?


I think this is the point. Valve has decided on the tournament format that they feel balances well between entertainment value and fairness and this is their decision. This double elimination format with a tweak in the final ( not the usual double elim).

If it is purely just to get a deserving winner, they should have done a league format between all 16 teams. So this double elimination is already the wrong format from the start if this was indeed the goal.



TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 01 2012 17:26 GMT
#10323
On September 02 2012 02:21 Canas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 02:14 Shikyo wrote:
On September 02 2012 02:14 sekritzzz wrote:
On September 02 2012 02:08 Shikyo wrote:
Misery can play Luna? O_O


By the way I feel like writing a super long article about Double Elimination because people seem to have no clue -_- I really am tired of stupid tournament organizers ruining the prestige of their tournaments.

On September 02 2012 02:08 superstartran wrote:
People that say LB isn't a disadvantage in this tournament really don't understand DotA 2 at all. In the LB, you will pull any pocket strat that you have in order to not be eliminated. Revealing these pocket strats early is a massive disadvantage. Revealing such an early strat is BAD. It gives teams time to scout you out and figure out how to counter it. It's a BIG time advantage to be in the WB.

Do you understand that the winners bracket winner has the right to be forced into that position as well instead of being immediately eliminated? God, people really are dense, it's incredible.

Please go do that because your whining is ridiculous, so save us from yourself.

Yes, god forbid I want a 1.6 million tournament to be concluded fairly and want the deserving winner to win.


If you want to win the tournament, you have to beat every team. How could the team that ends up winning not deserve to win?


You do not need to beat every team to win an elimination-based tournament. Especially one with a preliminary group stage.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 01 2012 17:26 GMT
#10324
lol poor misery
Nick3
Profile Joined March 2011
513 Posts
September 01 2012 17:26 GMT
#10325
Morphling will win the game for Orange, early etheral will mean mass kills on CLG support!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
September 01 2012 17:27 GMT
#10326
Well this is what CLG needs but damn Mushi is on a rampage in mid
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
September 01 2012 17:27 GMT
#10327
how did the lesh get out? chen tp?
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
September 01 2012 17:28 GMT
#10328
On September 02 2012 02:27 L3g3nd_ wrote:
how did the lesh get out? chen tp?


Yes
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 01 2012 17:28 GMT
#10329
Oh man Mushi so fed, along with Leshrac I'm actually thinking that CLG is falling really really far behind, I don't think they can win this unless Luna does something miraculous.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
September 01 2012 17:28 GMT
#10330
17 minute bloodstone and EB on orange, jesus
Moderator
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
September 01 2012 17:28 GMT
#10331
Orange! Yes! Good farm and pushing from Mushi.
vanhio
Profile Joined November 2010
Niue1017 Posts
September 01 2012 17:28 GMT
#10332
Mushii
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
September 01 2012 17:28 GMT
#10333
17 min eblade
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
September 01 2012 17:28 GMT
#10334
and bloodstone

dayum
POGGERS
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
September 01 2012 17:29 GMT
#10335
Go orange! M-God having a great time
Poorlilrich
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia262 Posts
September 01 2012 17:29 GMT
#10336
On September 02 2012 02:26 Nick3 wrote:
Morphling will win the game for Orange, early etheral will mean mass kills on CLG support!


As Mushi has done on Morphling for years, this is looking bleak already for CLG.
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
September 01 2012 17:29 GMT
#10337
clg is so far behind
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
September 01 2012 17:29 GMT
#10338
this doesnt look good for clg
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 17:31:31
September 01 2012 17:30 GMT
#10339
On September 02 2012 02:23 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 02:17 Implenia wrote:
On September 02 2012 02:14 Shikyo wrote:
On September 02 2012 02:14 sekritzzz wrote:
On September 02 2012 02:08 Shikyo wrote:
Misery can play Luna? O_O


By the way I feel like writing a super long article about Double Elimination because people seem to have no clue -_- I really am tired of stupid tournament organizers ruining the prestige of their tournaments.

On September 02 2012 02:08 superstartran wrote:
People that say LB isn't a disadvantage in this tournament really don't understand DotA 2 at all. In the LB, you will pull any pocket strat that you have in order to not be eliminated. Revealing these pocket strats early is a massive disadvantage. Revealing such an early strat is BAD. It gives teams time to scout you out and figure out how to counter it. It's a BIG time advantage to be in the WB.

Do you understand that the winners bracket winner has the right to be forced into that position as well instead of being immediately eliminated? God, people really are dense, it's incredible.

Please go do that because your whining is ridiculous, so save us from yourself.

Yes, god forbid I want a 1.6 million tournament to be concluded fairly and want the deserving winner to win.

Not really surprised that you mostly post in the league of legends subsection. Please stop whining and watch the game.

#1 most of my posts are in sc2 LR

#2 Tournaments being fair is the most important thing to the players by far, I'm sorry that you feel differently, but maybe you wouldn't if you got wronged out of a chance to win 1 million dollars. Note that I've brought this up every single time a double elimination format has been fucked up, not only now although this is a complete disgrace nothing's ever come close to. Also I'm mostly replying to the arguments and telling them why they're incorrect, I feel that that's my right.

#3 I've got 2 screens and am watching the entire time.


BM being only lvl 4 might be a problem hmmhm he really needs lvl 6 at least, I don't think BM works that well without any farm. By the way, it's not often that I see a farming Leshrac even though I think that he's incredibly powerful, looking forward to seeing what YTH is going to be able to accomplish later on.

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 02:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 02 2012 02:14 Shikyo wrote:
On September 02 2012 02:14 sekritzzz wrote:
On September 02 2012 02:08 Shikyo wrote:
Misery can play Luna? O_O


By the way I feel like writing a super long article about Double Elimination because people seem to have no clue -_- I really am tired of stupid tournament organizers ruining the prestige of their tournaments.

On September 02 2012 02:08 superstartran wrote:
People that say LB isn't a disadvantage in this tournament really don't understand DotA 2 at all. In the LB, you will pull any pocket strat that you have in order to not be eliminated. Revealing these pocket strats early is a massive disadvantage. Revealing such an early strat is BAD. It gives teams time to scout you out and figure out how to counter it. It's a BIG time advantage to be in the WB.

Do you understand that the winners bracket winner has the right to be forced into that position as well instead of being immediately eliminated? God, people really are dense, it's incredible.

Please go do that because your whining is ridiculous, so save us from yourself.

Yes, god forbid I want a 1.6 million tournament to be concluded fairly and want the deserving winner to win.

If you're trying to say LB isn't a disadvantage I don't think you understand how the bracket works.

I'm saying that you should give the best-performing team that "disadvantage" as well.

Let's try this.

You go steal a cookie at 1PM. The shopkeeper catches you and gives you a slap on the wrist and says "If you do this again I'll blow your head off"

However, if you go steal the cookie at 2PM the shopkeeper just walks up to you with a sawed shotgun and blows your head off.

I'm sorry, Miami Heat beating the Lakers during the regular season does not mean they deserve a 1 game lead in the finals. Simple as that. NOBODY deserves an advantage in any grand final.
Only Mickey Mouse joke tournaments do that. Nobody is 'entitled' to win a tournament just because everyone thinks they deserve it
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
September 01 2012 17:30 GMT
#10340
triple kill on mushi

that leshrac just MELTING everyone
POGGERS
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