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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 08 2014 04:39 GMT
#17661
On June 08 2014 13:37 ReligionLOL wrote:
Another question, I was watching dendie's stream and he had daggon lvl 1 and he added 2x daggon recipe to his quick buy list. I know that shift-clicking the recipe will add it to the list, but when I shift click something else it just re-writes my quick by list to only that one item. (he had 2x of the same recipe in his quickbuy at the same time). How do you do that?


He set his quick buy to dagon 3. Since he had dagon 1 he needed two more recipes to get dagon 3 and they both went into quick buy.
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ReligionLOL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 04:40:19
June 08 2014 04:40 GMT
#17662
On June 08 2014 13:22 evilfatsh1t wrote:


and macros arent illegal in pubs, cause whos gonna know lol
i dont think anyones tried using them in a pro game but honestly you dont even need them


Say I had a macro that was for invoker. I could do F1: Send{E, Q, E, R}; So whenever I wanted to summon forge spirits when I didnt have that skill active, I would do F1 -> cast. That is legal? I could set up every invoker skill like this?
A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.
ReligionLOL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States137 Posts
June 08 2014 04:53 GMT
#17663
On June 08 2014 13:39 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 13:37 ReligionLOL wrote:
Another question, I was watching dendie's stream and he had daggon lvl 1 and he added 2x daggon recipe to his quick buy list. I know that shift-clicking the recipe will add it to the list, but when I shift click something else it just re-writes my quick by list to only that one item. (he had 2x of the same recipe in his quickbuy at the same time). How do you do that?


He set his quick buy to dagon 3. Since he had dagon 1 he needed two more recipes to get dagon 3 and they both went into quick buy.


How did he do that?
A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2854 Posts
June 08 2014 05:12 GMT
#17664
The recipe for Dagon 3 is Mystic staff + null talisman + recipe + recipe + recipe.

So adding dagon 3 to your quickbuy queues up those items. Seems simple enough to me.
ReligionLOL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States137 Posts
June 08 2014 07:50 GMT
#17665
Say you have a dagon 1 and you use it to get a kill on riki and now ur down to 10 hp. U walk back to base to heal and while you're healing you think to yourself "I already know the next two things I will buy, and they are both dagon recipes" (i.e. "i want a dagon 3"). You open shop, click on the picture of the dagon, and then below that the dagon pops up with a diagram for the 3 items needed in order to make a dagon, one of which is a recipe. You hold shift and then click on the picture of that dagon recipe. You then hear a sound informing you that the dagon recipe has been added to your quick buy box. You then think to urself "but I want 2 of them" so you do it again (hold shift and click the recipe) and the same thing happens (the sound plays) but in your quick buy box there is still only 1 recipe. If you get enough gold and right click that item from ur quick buy, ur quick buy will be empty.
A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
June 08 2014 08:03 GMT
#17666
You click on dagon1, then you click on dagon2, ... click on dagon 5, shift click the dagon5.

Recipes galore.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 08 2014 08:06 GMT
#17667
On June 08 2014 16:50 ReligionLOL wrote:
Say you have a dagon 1 and you use it to get a kill on riki and now ur down to 10 hp. U walk back to base to heal and while you're healing you think to yourself "I already know the next two things I will buy, and they are both dagon recipes" (i.e. "i want a dagon 3"). You open shop, click on the picture of the dagon, and then below that the dagon pops up with a diagram for the 3 items needed in order to make a dagon, one of which is a recipe. You hold shift and then click on the picture of that dagon recipe. You then hear a sound informing you that the dagon recipe has been added to your quick buy box. You then think to urself "but I want 2 of them" so you do it again (hold shift and click the recipe) and the same thing happens (the sound plays) but in your quick buy box there is still only 1 recipe. If you get enough gold and right click that item from ur quick buy, ur quick buy will be empty.

Shift-click dagon 3 and not dagon 1. If you left click dagon, in the diagram that shows the item buildup dagon 2 will be above it (so you keep clicking it, it'll go up to dagon 5, in which case shift-clicking the item will cause 5 recipes to be in your quickbuy).
:)
Glomblor
Profile Joined May 2014
Australia26 Posts
June 08 2014 09:12 GMT
#17668
In solo queue AP it feels like there is active counter picking with people taking the gold hit to get a favorable match up. What are some heroes that don't have clear cut counters?
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
June 08 2014 10:14 GMT
#17669
On June 08 2014 18:12 Glomblor wrote:
In solo queue AP it feels like there is active counter picking with people taking the gold hit to get a favorable match up. What are some heroes that don't have clear cut counters?

Doom, Elder Titan, Rubick, Shadow Demon, Disruptor, Beast Master, Dragon Knight are some

But I think Counterpicking in general is overrated as fuck and it's better to pick heroes that has synergy within your own team.
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 08 2014 11:26 GMT
#17670
On June 08 2014 19:14 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 18:12 Glomblor wrote:
In solo queue AP it feels like there is active counter picking with people taking the gold hit to get a favorable match up. What are some heroes that don't have clear cut counters?

Doom, Elder Titan, Rubick, Shadow Demon, Disruptor, Beast Master, Dragon Knight are some

But I think Counterpicking in general is overrated as fuck and it's better to pick heroes that has synergy within your own team.

Disruptor is a weak laner and will lose his lane 2v2 more often than not and beastmaster is very sad against aba.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 08 2014 11:50 GMT
#17671
On June 08 2014 14:12 Fleetfeet wrote:
The recipe for Dagon 3 is Mystic staff + null talisman + recipe + recipe + recipe.

So adding dagon 3 to your quickbuy queues up those items. Seems simple enough to me.

Man those are some expensive dagons
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 08 2014 12:03 GMT
#17672
disruptors pretty strong in lane he has 600 range and massive nukes
and beastmaster does fine against aba, u can shield off the roar but half the hero is hawk + aura anyway
Glomblor
Profile Joined May 2014
Australia26 Posts
June 08 2014 12:27 GMT
#17673
On June 08 2014 19:14 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 18:12 Glomblor wrote:
In solo queue AP it feels like there is active counter picking with people taking the gold hit to get a favorable match up. What are some heroes that don't have clear cut counters?

Doom, Elder Titan, Rubick, Shadow Demon, Disruptor, Beast Master, Dragon Knight are some

But I think Counterpicking in general is overrated as fuck and it's better to pick heroes that has synergy within your own team.


The problem with the whole synergy thing I feel is in Solo Queue noone knows what they are doing. eg. an axe/dark seer where the axe will not harass with ion shell.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 12:31:19
June 08 2014 12:31 GMT
#17674
On June 08 2014 16:50 ReligionLOL wrote:
Say you have a dagon 1 and you use it to get a kill on riki and now ur down to 10 hp. U walk back to base to heal and while you're healing you think to yourself "I already know the next two things I will buy, and they are both dagon recipes" (i.e. "i want a dagon 3"). You open shop, click on the picture of the dagon, and then below that the dagon pops up with a diagram for the 3 items needed in order to make a dagon, one of which is a recipe. You hold shift and then click on the picture of that dagon recipe. You then hear a sound informing you that the dagon recipe has been added to your quick buy box. You then think to urself "but I want 2 of them" so you do it again (hold shift and click the recipe) and the same thing happens (the sound plays) but in your quick buy box there is still only 1 recipe. If you get enough gold and right click that item from ur quick buy, ur quick buy will be empty.

just type dagon into the search box and drag the dagon 5 into quickbuy
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
June 08 2014 12:44 GMT
#17675
when i shift click dagon 5, it just gives me all the recipes in the quickbuy section, if ur buying dagon 3, probably gonna go up to 5 so just do that.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 13:35:28
June 08 2014 13:26 GMT
#17676
Counterpicking is certainly overrated in the whole-game scheme of things, but that's small consolation when you pick weaver and end up against bloodseeker+slardar+sky.

I can see how heroes that sidestep that would be attractive. Really I think you'd just want to avoid the really obvious stuff, like peekaboo invis (vs. slardar/BH/bloodseeker/Zeus) meepo/illusion heroes (vs. Earthshaker. Every damn time.), fragile spell spammers (vs. silence/doooooom) and the fotm mids everyone's learned to hate.

If your counter is too sophisticated for the average lastpicker to put together in five seconds, you're probably okay in soloQ.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 13:44:15
June 08 2014 13:44 GMT
#17677
On June 08 2014 22:26 Belisarius wrote:
Counterpicking is certainly overrated in the whole-game scheme of things, but that's small consolation when you pick weaver and end up against bloodseeker+slardar+sky.

I can see how heroes that sidestep that would be attractive. Really I think you'd just want to avoid the really obvious stuff, like peekaboo invis (vs. slardar/BH/bloodseeker/Zeus) meepo/illusion heroes (vs. Earthshaker. Every damn time.), fragile spell spammers (vs. silence/doooooom) and the fotm mids everyone's learned to hate.

If your counter is too sophisticated for the average lastpicker to put together in five seconds, you're probably okay in soloQ.


pretty well-said.

honestly, in a pub, we're not dealing with two evenly skilled pro teams where everyone is necessarily playing heroes they know in and out. realistically, there are a lot of variables in play in pubs and sometimes its not enough to just counterpick the enemy (with the obvious exceptions you listed above).
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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
June 08 2014 14:37 GMT
#17678
On June 08 2014 20:26 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 19:14 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On June 08 2014 18:12 Glomblor wrote:
In solo queue AP it feels like there is active counter picking with people taking the gold hit to get a favorable match up. What are some heroes that don't have clear cut counters?

Doom, Elder Titan, Rubick, Shadow Demon, Disruptor, Beast Master, Dragon Knight are some

But I think Counterpicking in general is overrated as fuck and it's better to pick heroes that has synergy within your own team.

Disruptor is a weak laner and will lose his lane 2v2 more often than not and beastmaster is very sad against aba.

I just listed heroes that is easy to create synergy with. Every hero has weaknessess. If they pick Abaddon to counter roar, then they have a shit laner themselves instead.

"Can't pick Riki cause he's countered by Doom."
"Can't pick SD cause he's countered by Doom."
"Can't pick Tiny cause he's countered by Doom."

The game doesn't really work like that since Doom only has one ultimate.
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Cinnamonster
Profile Joined May 2014
Belgium24 Posts
June 08 2014 15:20 GMT
#17679
I just had a game where someone was chatting in all chat, in orange .... How do you change the color? (and is orange the only possible color, except for white)
Cut cut cut cutcutcutcutcutcutcutcutcutcutcutcut! Sawblades still not sharp enough!
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12187 Posts
June 08 2014 15:50 GMT
#17680
On June 09 2014 00:20 Cinnamonster wrote:
I just had a game where someone was chatting in all chat, in orange .... How do you change the color? (and is orange the only possible color, except for white)


http://www.playdota.com/forums/blog.php?b=146964 This has how to get the colour codes. Paste them before whatever you want to change colour. Changing on player name as it is about no longer works.
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