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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 26 2014 19:04 GMT
#17381
Alright DaGOD build officially scuppered.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 26 2014 19:05 GMT
#17382
You realize Dagon is a name of god?
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 26 2014 19:09 GMT
#17383
He liked gurls and weath
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
May 26 2014 20:49 GMT
#17384
Wasn't he like a fertility god or something to the babylonians rather than THE god?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 26 2014 20:57 GMT
#17385
On May 27 2014 05:49 BoZiffer wrote:
Wasn't he like a fertility god or something to the babylonians rather than THE god?

I'm famous for skipping entire words when i type, one "a" is pretty good for me
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 26 2014 21:01 GMT
#17386
On May 27 2014 05:49 BoZiffer wrote:
Wasn't he like a fertility god or something to the babylonians rather than THE god?


exactly, gurls and weath
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 26 2014 21:02 GMT
#17387
There's an "L" in "Wealth". Unless you meant a different word by "weath"?
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
May 26 2014 21:14 GMT
#17388
On May 27 2014 05:57 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 05:49 BoZiffer wrote:
Wasn't he like a fertility god or something to the babylonians rather than THE god?

I'm famous for skipping entire words when i type, one "a" is pretty good for me


Ha! Fair enuff.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 26 2014 23:18 GMT
#17389
Eblade dagon1-5 would have been next level
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
May 27 2014 00:14 GMT
#17390
On May 25 2014 16:36 llIH wrote:
I have a new question regarding solo queue ranked matchmaking - All Pick

I have more problems with teammates not being able to play the heroes they are drafted - than being counter-picked in ap. I play at 5k mmr level for team mm.
In theory, I should be able to climb solo ranked matchmaking even when playing All Pick right? I am a support player. What are good strategies for picking? Any other good supports out there that play AP in ranked solo?
I just don't want to play CM in solo. I feel it is same for both teams anyways.


No one?

I am curious if AP or CM/CD is the way to go for an experienced support player to rank up in solo queue.
Clockwork757
Profile Joined May 2014
258 Posts
May 27 2014 00:32 GMT
#17391
On May 27 2014 09:14 llIH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 16:36 llIH wrote:
I have a new question regarding solo queue ranked matchmaking - All Pick

I have more problems with teammates not being able to play the heroes they are drafted - than being counter-picked in ap. I play at 5k mmr level for team mm.
In theory, I should be able to climb solo ranked matchmaking even when playing All Pick right? I am a support player. What are good strategies for picking? Any other good supports out there that play AP in ranked solo?
I just don't want to play CM in solo. I feel it is same for both teams anyways.


No one?

I am curious if AP or CM/CD is the way to go for an experienced support player to rank up in solo queue.

As an inexperienced(2.8k mmr ~550 games) any-role player I have had more fun, and more wins in CD than in AP. Just be prepared to play not-supports, you would be surprised how many times I've asked to support but was told to mid.
~meh~
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
May 27 2014 01:04 GMT
#17392
On May 27 2014 09:32 Clockwork757 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 09:14 llIH wrote:
On May 25 2014 16:36 llIH wrote:
I have a new question regarding solo queue ranked matchmaking - All Pick

I have more problems with teammates not being able to play the heroes they are drafted - than being counter-picked in ap. I play at 5k mmr level for team mm.
In theory, I should be able to climb solo ranked matchmaking even when playing All Pick right? I am a support player. What are good strategies for picking? Any other good supports out there that play AP in ranked solo?
I just don't want to play CM in solo. I feel it is same for both teams anyways.


No one?

I am curious if AP or CM/CD is the way to go for an experienced support player to rank up in solo queue.

As an inexperienced(2.8k mmr ~550 games) any-role player I have had more fun, and more wins in CD than in AP. Just be prepared to play not-supports, you would be surprised how many times I've asked to support but was told to mid.


thanks for reply
I am more interested to know what mode to rank up with when playing support
Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
May 27 2014 01:42 GMT
#17393
On May 25 2014 19:39 Bunn wrote:
How to counter viper?


Ok I know others have answered but I will give it a gander. If you are confident you can do this when facing a duel lane Viper you just lane by yourself which naturally pushes the lane towards you and you hug the tower, getting last hits and denying him easy ganks in his lane. If he's mid abuse highground advantage. Denying him kills in his lane helps to neuter him and makes sure you have no level discrepancy between you meaning that when you reach late game he won't be super fed and you won't be underleveled. However if your team is stupid Viper could just hang around your other lanes and get kills and than your problem continues. In team fights large stuns and nukes are a good way to kill him.
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tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
May 27 2014 01:50 GMT
#17394
On May 27 2014 09:14 llIH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 16:36 llIH wrote:
I have a new question regarding solo queue ranked matchmaking - All Pick

I have more problems with teammates not being able to play the heroes they are drafted - than being counter-picked in ap. I play at 5k mmr level for team mm.
In theory, I should be able to climb solo ranked matchmaking even when playing All Pick right? I am a support player. What are good strategies for picking? Any other good supports out there that play AP in ranked solo?
I just don't want to play CM in solo. I feel it is same for both teams anyways.


No one?

I am curious if AP or CM/CD is the way to go for an experienced support player to rank up in solo queue.

I think AP. The drafts are more likely to lack supports in this mode. I suspect the advantage would be fairly minor.
Road to 6sange
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
May 27 2014 02:14 GMT
#17395
On May 27 2014 10:04 llIH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 09:32 Clockwork757 wrote:
On May 27 2014 09:14 llIH wrote:
On May 25 2014 16:36 llIH wrote:
I have a new question regarding solo queue ranked matchmaking - All Pick

I have more problems with teammates not being able to play the heroes they are drafted - than being counter-picked in ap. I play at 5k mmr level for team mm.
In theory, I should be able to climb solo ranked matchmaking even when playing All Pick right? I am a support player. What are good strategies for picking? Any other good supports out there that play AP in ranked solo?
I just don't want to play CM in solo. I feel it is same for both teams anyways.


No one?

I am curious if AP or CM/CD is the way to go for an experienced support player to rank up in solo queue.

As an inexperienced(2.8k mmr ~550 games) any-role player I have had more fun, and more wins in CD than in AP. Just be prepared to play not-supports, you would be surprised how many times I've asked to support but was told to mid.


thanks for reply
I am more interested to know what mode to rank up with when playing support

impact supports are the best in pubs. as long as you help win the lane then most of your games should be good.
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
May 27 2014 02:40 GMT
#17396
On May 27 2014 10:04 llIH wrote:
I am more interested to know what mode to rank up with when playing support


Personal choice, I feel. I prefer to play ranked cm when I want to solo queue and actually improve my skills, because it seems like the closest thing to a 'serious' environment queuing can get me. It tends to make people even more prone to rage than usual, but I've found I get raged at a lot less on support than any other role. You'll still need to listen to your allies bitching at each other (unless you just mute them), but such is life. I know other people who like all pick (though I'll never understand why) and random draft. As long as you have a reasonably large pool of heroes you can play, you should be fine in any mode, especially as a support player.

And of course, if you have reasonable human beings who are decent at DotA for friends, just queue together for whatever mode you can all agree on. Reliable allies trump everything else.
cuddytime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States4 Posts
May 27 2014 05:34 GMT
#17397
if you have an mkb, does this negate panda's drunken brawler's "chance to miss" debuff?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
May 27 2014 05:42 GMT
#17398
On May 27 2014 14:34 cuddytime wrote:
if you have an mkb, does this negate panda's drunken brawler's "chance to miss" debuff?


yes.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
WladimirUN
Profile Joined February 2005
Germany67 Posts
May 27 2014 05:47 GMT
#17399
One question to Tide:
(re-discovered that hero and it feels pretty strong and i like his skillset)
most of the time i'm support in lane so try to get kills in lane with ganks and go arcane boots -> blink -> bracer -> refresher
but after blink is done in the midgame it almost looks always like this: blink in, ult, e, q on a low hp target to maybe snipe a kill and then i die b/c they all unload their shit on me. ofc its fine and i dont mind dieing but is there another reasonable way to build him maybe with blademail / forcestaff and no arcanes to survive better?
so mainly the question is, is blademail or forcestaff solving his mana probs?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 27 2014 06:40 GMT
#17400
On May 27 2014 14:47 WladimirUN wrote:
One question to Tide:
(re-discovered that hero and it feels pretty strong and i like his skillset)
most of the time i'm support in lane so try to get kills in lane with ganks and go arcane boots -> blink -> bracer -> refresher
but after blink is done in the midgame it almost looks always like this: blink in, ult, e, q on a low hp target to maybe snipe a kill and then i die b/c they all unload their shit on me. ofc its fine and i dont mind dieing but is there another reasonable way to build him maybe with blademail / forcestaff and no arcanes to survive better?
so mainly the question is, is blademail or forcestaff solving his mana probs?

Tide needs the mana pool of arcane boots, hard to skip. If they "unload all their shit on you" and you are support and already used all your spells, enjoy! Casual cloak, vitbooster, platemail are all fine. Maybe reconsider refresher, as it worth almost nothing until completed. Sometimes it's fine to slowly grind it but it can be better to have other items with an actual impact when under pressure. Forcetsaff is good too. Then whatever team item with aura will make it, Don't be afraid to take farm with tide as he farms decently with anchor smash and scales decently too and he's not that good at ganking without ulti or gold/xp.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
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