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Bunn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Estonia934 Posts
May 25 2014 10:39 GMT
#17361
How to counter viper?
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12136 Posts
May 25 2014 10:51 GMT
#17362
On May 25 2014 19:39 Bunn wrote:
How to counter viper?


Turtle for 50 mins, he doesn't scale well. Or tri lane against him and kill him.
Bunn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Estonia934 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-25 10:56:30
May 25 2014 10:55 GMT
#17363
On May 25 2014 19:51 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 19:39 Bunn wrote:
How to counter viper?


Turtle for 50 mins, he doesn't scale well. Or tri lane against him and kill him.


Do any heroes stand a chance against him early game solo-mid?
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-25 11:03:27
May 25 2014 11:01 GMT
#17364
On May 25 2014 18:46 Yurie wrote:
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On May 25 2014 17:44 cecek wrote:
"Simple Questions, Simple Answers"
Every post is a 3+ columns essay.

Oh TL, you so silly. :D


If people asked simple questions they would get simple answers. A simple question is, what is the base damage of void on level 1?

A medium hard question is, what items should you buy on void at the start. This depends on a ton of factors but can be simplified into 3-4 cases by ignoring solo off lane and similar things.

A hard question is, what items should I build on void and in which order. This would depend on so many factors that even a summary answer with 1 build would be heavily argued since it is just good in perhaps 25% of games.


These days when people ask a genuinely simple question they get told to go check it in a bot game.

If anyone asked your medium or hard questions they would be told to go to the void thread.

About the only thing left to be done here is vague theorycraft.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
May 25 2014 11:19 GMT
#17365
On May 25 2014 19:55 Bunn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 19:51 Yurie wrote:
On May 25 2014 19:39 Bunn wrote:
How to counter viper?


Turtle for 50 mins, he doesn't scale well. Or tri lane against him and kill him.


Do any heroes stand a chance against him early game solo-mid?

od, razor
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 25 2014 11:58 GMT
#17366
On May 25 2014 19:39 Bunn wrote:
How to counter viper?

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He turns rather slow and feels easy to gank during the early laningstage.
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
May 25 2014 12:50 GMT
#17367
On May 25 2014 20:58 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 19:39 Bunn wrote:
How to counter viper?

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He turns rather slow and feels easy to gank during the early laningstage.


He is not easy to gank at all though. Corrosive skin is really strong.
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
May 25 2014 17:23 GMT
#17368
On May 25 2014 21:50 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 20:58 govie wrote:
On May 25 2014 19:39 Bunn wrote:
How to counter viper?

`
He turns rather slow and feels easy to gank during the early laningstage.


He is not easy to gank at all though. Corrosive skin is really strong.


It helps to gank him at like lvl 2-3, before he puts too many points in his passives.
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-25 17:47:31
May 25 2014 17:43 GMT
#17369
Viper is very easy to gank early game, hes slow as hell. People either gank him a lot before he comes online with mek and lvls in corrosive or just leave him be.

1v1 mid though heroes like qop and sf should do fine. Viper is not as scary as people think, hes starting damage/range is low, and hes slow. abuse creep/highground positioning and keep hitting him and not just a hit once awhile or corrosive end up doing more damage to you than your autos did to him.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12136 Posts
May 25 2014 18:16 GMT
#17370
Why blink on Roof over Vladimir, mek or Drum?
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
May 25 2014 18:18 GMT
#17371
it allows you to get a good ult off.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-25 19:38:15
May 25 2014 19:36 GMT
#17372
What's the most efficient way to draw creep aggro? Do you right click on the enemy hero then rightclick back, a-click the enemy hero and 's' command, or some other way?
super gg
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 25 2014 19:47 GMT
#17373
Well if you're drawing aggro, I assume it's to move the creeps closer to you. You don't want them to hit you though, so I always right click back a little.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 25 2014 20:15 GMT
#17374
If you need the ultimate to initiate or counterinitiate (and counters bkb). If you dont have too, i believe you can go other items. Alot here wont agree i guess but 1) in alot of pubs you wont see alot of bkbs and 2) maybe you have more/better initiation heros on your team. 3) If you want perfect AOE initiation and teamfight that badly and early, get tidehunter or some similar hero not treant.

I dont farm much on treant so i get dagger around the time that there are (multiple) bkb's on the enemies team. Although i see alot of potential in the ultimate when teamfighting, its lack of damage doesnt really lobby for a blinkdagger in the trench. People tend to not take advantage of the ultimate and it doesnt deal any damage by itself. I guess the higher mmr region you play, the more effective the ultimate+blink will be.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 25 2014 20:29 GMT
#17375
If you're playing trench games, you don't need Blink because when people are bad at buying detection you can use Guise-ulti a lot of times you'd otherwise need Blink.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
May 25 2014 22:05 GMT
#17376
Even if nobody has detection, blink lets you initiate under towers etc where guise won't.

If your team needs initiation, especially to break highground, get blink. If you have other initiators and you're mainly using overgrowth as a followup or an interrupt, vlads/drums etc might be better.

I usually find it fairly obvious when I need blink and when I don't, tbh. Am I getting where I need to be, or do I need help?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 26 2014 18:29 GMT
#17377
Do dagons of different levels share cooldowns?
I'd assume yes but I'm not that certain lol.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 26 2014 18:44 GMT
#17378
On May 27 2014 03:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
Do dagons of different levels share cooldowns?
I'd assume yes but I'm not that certain lol.

I think they used to not, but then they started to, and I haven;t tried since so might as well not share again.

Dota plz, wai u meak negative amounts of sense?

They should is the simple answer
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 26 2014 18:53 GMT
#17379
I'm apparently too poor to finish my daGOD build anyway.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 26 2014 19:02 GMT
#17380
They share cooldowns. If different level Dagons have different CDs, the CD is set to whichever one you used (e.g. if you use the Dagon 1, the Dagon 5 is set to the longer CD).
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