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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-23 19:04:10
April 23 2014 19:03 GMT
#16761
On April 24 2014 00:06 Comeh wrote:
Well keep in mind the archer gives 9% AS 9% MS aura, but yeah usually the melee.

why do i not know things like this...
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-23 19:11:35
April 23 2014 19:10 GMT
#16762
10 bucks says comeh didn't know the actual numbers and looked it up on the wiki.
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Disclaimer: if i'm wrong I'm not actually giving anybody money.
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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-24 03:20:03
April 24 2014 03:19 GMT
#16763
On April 23 2014 22:17 ReignSupreme. wrote:
...Keep in mind Archer also offers a MS/AS aura so kinda depends on your team line up *and what you're planning to do.

On April 24 2014 00:06 Comeh wrote:
Well keep in mind the archer gives 9% AS 9% MS aura, but yeah usually the melee.


What a copy-cat
Discarder
Profile Joined July 2012
Philippines411 Posts
April 24 2014 03:33 GMT
#16764
hey guys, I need help in stomping my friends at my office. got any advice for 3v3? Are there any OP hero picks for 3v3?

ty!
You can take the lion out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the lion
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
April 24 2014 03:41 GMT
#16765
On April 24 2014 12:33 Discarder wrote:
hey guys, I need help in stomping my friends at my office. got any advice for 3v3? Are there any OP hero picks for 3v3?

ty!


Just pick a strong 1v1 laner and crush your lane hard. How would you rate their Dota skills btw?
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Discarder
Profile Joined July 2012
Philippines411 Posts
April 24 2014 03:43 GMT
#16766
On April 24 2014 12:41 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 12:33 Discarder wrote:
hey guys, I need help in stomping my friends at my office. got any advice for 3v3? Are there any OP hero picks for 3v3?

ty!


Just pick a strong 1v1 laner and crush your lane hard. How would you rate their Dota skills btw?


dunno 2940 solo mmr and 3440 party mmr.. 50% win/loss.

Can I go carry WR? hehehe
You can take the lion out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the lion
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
April 24 2014 05:53 GMT
#16767
How Terrible of a mid is Legion Commander vs a pudge? or just as a mid hero in general?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 24 2014 06:08 GMT
#16768
On April 24 2014 14:53 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
How Terrible of a mid is Legion Commander vs a pudge? or just as a mid hero in general?


Melee heroes vs. Pudge can be pretty rough in general. As a general mid-hero though, legion is pretty good. Her "Q" is fantastic at pushing out waves and does some pretty good harass damage. She can also heal herself for good sustain in lane.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
April 24 2014 09:48 GMT
#16769
On April 24 2014 14:53 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
How Terrible of a mid is Legion Commander vs a pudge? or just as a mid hero in general?


LC should crush pudge with passive and absent of armor of pudge. Just go 3-2-1 into max nuke. I think LC is a decent mid with bottle crow.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 24 2014 10:31 GMT
#16770
On April 24 2014 12:19 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2014 22:17 ReignSupreme. wrote:
...Keep in mind Archer also offers a MS/AS aura so kinda depends on your team line up *and what you're planning to do.

Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 00:06 Comeh wrote:
Well keep in mind the archer gives 9% AS 9% MS aura, but yeah usually the melee.


What a copy-cat


copy that
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-24 14:23:52
April 24 2014 14:23 GMT
#16771
On April 24 2014 15:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 14:53 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
How Terrible of a mid is Legion Commander vs a pudge? or just as a mid hero in general?


Melee heroes vs. Pudge can be pretty rough in general. As a general mid-hero though, legion is pretty good. Her "Q" is fantastic at pushing out waves and does some pretty good harass damage. She can also heal herself for good sustain in lane.


Melee heroes demolish Pudge in general. :D Except for probably Nyx and even Nyx can destroy Pudge. However i'm not sure about Juggernaut, but he can just farm instead of killing Pudge.

Ofc if they don't die on level 3, after it Pudge is fucked if he didn't get anything.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 24 2014 15:11 GMT
#16772
On April 24 2014 23:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Ofc if they don't die on level 3, after it Pudge is fucked if he didn't get anything.

This is the key.

Pudge has strong level 1/2/3 vs weaker bottle-crow melees before they get their bottle out. If they finish their bottle, it's stalemate at best against most of them.

That said, I would say a handful of those matchups are still inherently advantageous to Pudge based on that level 1-3 advantage.
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GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
April 25 2014 04:13 GMT
#16773
Can the mjollnir active buff still proc if the attack misses, i.e. from uphill miss chance or windrunner evasion?
The Turtle Moves
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
April 25 2014 06:57 GMT
#16774
On April 25 2014 13:13 GtC wrote:
Can the mjollnir active buff still proc if the attack misses, i.e. from uphill miss chance or windrunner evasion?


I believe mjollnir works based on receiving damage, so I would say no.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
April 25 2014 14:04 GMT
#16775
On April 24 2014 14:53 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
How Terrible of a mid is Legion Commander vs a pudge? or just as a mid hero in general?

Legion should hands down destroy a pudge
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Moustache Cash Stash
Profile Joined February 2014
United States222 Posts
April 25 2014 18:11 GMT
#16776
What is the best way to use Necro book? I realize this is very game situational, but in a general team fight, how should you micro the units?
You got a 4x multicast? You must be so good at Dota.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 25 2014 22:05 GMT
#16777
On April 26 2014 03:11 Moustache Cash Stash wrote:
What is the best way to use Necro book? I realize this is very game situational, but in a general team fight, how should you micro the units?


Dunno, manadrain someone, attack priority targets/squishy supports.
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B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
April 25 2014 22:37 GMT
#16778
On April 24 2014 23:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 15:08 Hapahauli wrote:
On April 24 2014 14:53 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
How Terrible of a mid is Legion Commander vs a pudge? or just as a mid hero in general?


Melee heroes vs. Pudge can be pretty rough in general. As a general mid-hero though, legion is pretty good. Her "Q" is fantastic at pushing out waves and does some pretty good harass damage. She can also heal herself for good sustain in lane.


Melee heroes demolish Pudge in general. :D Except for probably Nyx and even Nyx can destroy Pudge. However i'm not sure about Juggernaut, but he can just farm instead of killing Pudge.

Ofc if they don't die on level 3, after it Pudge is fucked if he didn't get anything.


Why just level 3? Landing a hook gets a kill at pretty much any level if you don't have stun/escape, no? Especially with ult at 6?
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 25 2014 23:17 GMT
#16779
On April 26 2014 07:37 B1nary wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 23:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On April 24 2014 15:08 Hapahauli wrote:
On April 24 2014 14:53 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
How Terrible of a mid is Legion Commander vs a pudge? or just as a mid hero in general?


Melee heroes vs. Pudge can be pretty rough in general. As a general mid-hero though, legion is pretty good. Her "Q" is fantastic at pushing out waves and does some pretty good harass damage. She can also heal herself for good sustain in lane.


Melee heroes demolish Pudge in general. :D Except for probably Nyx and even Nyx can destroy Pudge. However i'm not sure about Juggernaut, but he can just farm instead of killing Pudge.

Ofc if they don't die on level 3, after it Pudge is fucked if he didn't get anything.


Why just level 3? Landing a hook gets a kill at pretty much any level if you don't have stun/escape, no? Especially with ult at 6?


He's just getting outscaled against any mid but on first levels Pudge has insane advantage because of possible damage output against anyone but TA probably who can refract hook damage.
And guys like DS, Axe or DK won't die on level 6 just because of combo, Pudge will die.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 26 2014 01:15 GMT
#16780
The other thing is that Pudge doesn't make use of a bottle-crow stalemate as well as other melee mids because his main mana-using skill doesn't really gain a whole lot of benefit from being spammed. Most melee mids are bottle-crow based, so he needs to pressure them until they get their bottle, because fundamentally they get more benefit from bottle-crowing than he does.

Pudge doesn't really have an answer to, say, a DK spamming Breathe Fire every wave other than just taking the damage and having to lasthit on tower. So in order to control that lane he has to win it before DK can do that.
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