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On December 05 2013 07:45 igotmyown wrote:
d2cl they said that bruno said that vanguard had a bug fix which made it better (presumably bigger than the 10% listed proc chance). What are they talking about, can't find it on google.

On December 05 2013 10:55 Excludos wrote:


Only sortof a bugfix. They increased the damage block from 70% to 80%, because of the bug with the PRD in the game, 80% is a lot closer to the 70% its actually suppose to be (with 80% its actually in truth now 66.7%)

On December 05 2013 16:28 igotmyown wrote:

Ok I'm reading
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=95644


65% currently C=0.38109, it should be 0.48113
70% currently C=0.42448, it should be 0.57143

So with if C = .57143, it has a 57% chance of proccing on the first attack and 100% on the second.
So the probability for damage block is .57143 for the first attack
and if it doesn't proc on the first attack, it will always proc on the second (1-.57143) since 2*.57143 > 1

Now if there are N total attacks, how many will proc?
The average attack until proc will take .57143* 1 + (1-.57143) * 2 = 1.423 tries.
So on average if there are N total attacks, there will be N / 1.423 procs, so that's 70% * N.

With .42448, on average you will need
.42448 * 1+ ( 1 - .42448) * .42448 * 2* 2 + (1 - .42448) * (1 - .42448*2) * 3 = 1.66244654 procs
So the probability is 1/1.66244654 = 60%

Not sure how they came up with their C values.

On December 05 2013 23:05 idonthinksobro wrote:
is there an option too make skills toggles instead of auto-cast (like medusa split shot)? for example huskars burning spear.

the reason why this would make sense is huskars attack speed gets so quick that you can't cast the skill manually but if you have lifesteal you want to turn off the burning spear at some point in fights. Turning off auto-cast simply takes longer than a toggle.

On December 05 2013 23:16 Scorch wrote:

You can use Alt + skill hotkey to toggle auto-cast on and off. Alt+Q in huskar's case. Fast enough for me.

On December 05 2013 19:59 hariooo wrote:
This should be like a solution sheet for you lol. You're right at least.

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Pseudo-random_distribution

On December 06 2013 01:58 idonthinksobro wrote:
i know how to switch auto-cast, but what i was asking if it is possible to change the skill to a real toggle skill like medusas mana shield and split shot or armlet?

On December 06 2013 02:10 Sn0_Man wrote:

There isn't a difference? What skill do you want to "toggle"?
You can rebind "W" to something like "dota_ability_toggle" (just made that up but i know u can do it) if you are too lazy to press 2 buttons to toggle the autocast. What you are really saying is that you are too lazy to get used to auto-cast toggling.
PS manual-casting orbs like huskar's spears has serious benefits so you'd be shooting yourself in the foot doing this.

On December 06 2013 02:02 NotYango wrote:

Again, DotA 2 Wiki has the DotA 1 PRD numbers. Nobody knows the specifics of the DotA 2 PRD works.

DotA 2 Wiki is basically not a legitimate source when it comes to bug reports because all info on it is a mix of DotA 1 expected functionality, PlayDotA help text, DotA 2 tooltips, and DotA 2 actual functionality with no real distinction between them.

On December 06 2013 02:20 idonthinksobro wrote:


i know about orb walking and i usually manually cast most auto-cast abilitys but especially with this skill and the attackspeed gain it gives you at low hp a toggle would be more helpful than a little bit orb-walking early game.

On December 06 2013 02:20 hariooo wrote:


Well it would imply that the 6-7 consecutive Greater Bash proc video was more freakish than it already is.

Surprised someone hasn't done a few tests on PRD though.

On December 06 2013 02:23 hariooo wrote:


You already outspeed Huskar's attack speed with just 3 clicks a second though?

I mean at the end of the day you just have to press Alt to have the exact same functionality. I'm curious why you think saving that single action is going to make a difference?

Can be achieved by this (change S to your key):
//Binds for toggling autocasting of spells
bind "S" "dota_ability_autocast 0; dota_ability_autocast 1; dota_ability_autocast 2; dota_ability_autocast 3; dota_ability_autocast 4; dota_ability_autocast 5"