I had it at "dota_minimap_misclick_time "0.4". That means that if I clicked on the minimap within 0.4 of hovering over it, nothing would happen. This stops a lot of stupid missclicks when Radiant and you try to go home with your hero, or what I tend to do which is accidently move my camera to random places around the map for no apparent reason. The game default was 0.2 seconds, but even that seems to have been taken out now.

Mataza

Germany5364 Posts

November 17 2013 04:17 GMT

#13743

On November 16 2013 15:51 njt7 wrote:
Well as I see it, an alchemist doesnt do anything but physical damage as well as his only contribution in a teamfight is minus armor and a stun. The draft I suggested isnt actually for level 9 damage that is what he already has on his own, the draft is actually to make alchemist scale better into the lategame played as a support while maximizing Shadow Fiends damage.. Might be some misunderstanding going on. I dont really see how the trilane becomes less squishy if you exchange the venge for a lina, sure you have one hero with longer ranged. Doesnt make her any tankier.

Yes both venge and sf are papertowels, I suggest that you suggest one support hero or a carry to make the lane stronger as well as contributing with minus armor to help your pure physical damage support that is our amazing alchemist. I guess we could go with ET, undying, naga or tide. Suddenly we are sitting there with one less hard disable and one less ranged hero. If we go with et or undying I feel we rely to much on concoction. If we go with naga we will have even less "harass potential". Undying also has to use his ult as well as trying to stay as close as possible to your opponents to boost your dps which is a questionable way of playing him without dying. Tide could work well if you really need that extra hp. Or just go with dazzle to bail try to bail out alchemist or sf if something goes horribly wrong early.

Im not saying it is the best tri lane in the world, Im sure I can come up with a multitude of trilanes to beat it, my only point is to to try to maximize the effect of alchemist played as a support. And having minus armor will help your whole teams overall dps which a hero like Lina doesnt do whatsoever. Yes the trilane is geared heavily towards lategame but hopefully you use your other two heroes to mitigate your potential to lose to early. Maybe put your fabulous slayer in mid so she can get her lvl 9 asap. You already have two setup stuns for her in the trilane. Im not trying to win TI4 with this, but when your whole skype call erupts in evil laughter when you hit that 5 man -20 armor concoction I hope you see my point.

If you play that way to have fun, than that's your thing. Go have fun, I'm not opposed to that. Just say so beforehand.

For example I would possibly put Viper as carry on that minus armor trilane to put the kill potential through the roof and have a decent solo if the supports go ganking. Since Viper's nethertoxin passive is physical damage it still works well with the armor reduction while adding functionality.
Or possibly just good old weaver or gyrocopter which both are solid solos, too, work with physical damage(weaver adds his own minus armor).

My point of view is trying the best you can. My selection of supports would have usually been in the direction of Bane, CM, Jakiro and the like, which allow for more greedy carries to be drafted. Which leads to entirely different drafts.
Just trying to give good advice, not trying to dictate how you and your friends should have fun.

njt7

Sweden769 Posts

November 17 2013 08:13 GMT

#13744

It was said beforehand

On November 16 2013 04:58 mizU wrote:
What should I be building on a support alch?
I reallllyyyyy enjoy playing him as a trilane support (stun and acid so gud)
generally if the game is going well I'll go for arcanes mek force
if I need to be the primary initiation is going for a vanguard valid?

Also how should I initiate in terms of order
I've been doing charge stun, ultimate, force, stun, acid spray, mek

Playing for fun and trying your best is not exclusive in either direction. Completly disregarding others way of thinking about the game because you think one way is better then the other with out trying it yourself tends to hamper your ability to keep improving at dota.

FR4CT4L

Australia697 Posts

November 17 2013 11:17 GMT

#13745

Is there a place to get an overview of the dota 2 economy? Stuff like the expected value of opening particular chests, crafting particular recipes etc. I'm basically new to dota but it seems like you could mitigate how much you spend on keys by understanding the overall economy better.

Rodberd

Germany531 Posts

November 17 2013 11:55 GMT

#13746

have you checked dota2lounge?
i gues t here are qite some trading-places, dont know if you can transfer the prices from A to B but it might help to get a good idea.

Juice!

Belgium295 Posts

November 17 2013 13:31 GMT

#13747

I'm pretty new to dota2 and i was wondering if there were any good (up to date) sites where people post guides/BO's for items/... for the champions like they have for league?

I really enjoy Tiny, but when i go online to check for a guide of some sorts the 'newest' i find it like a year old (and probably not valid anymore)

BadAim

Norway879 Posts

November 17 2013 13:46 GMT

#13748

Not so much a strategy question, but does anyone know why EG.Fear(Clinton Loomis) is called "Old man"? I mean he's only in his mid twenties.

Najda

United States3765 Posts

November 17 2013 14:08 GMT

#13749

On November 17 2013 22:31 Juice! wrote:
I'm pretty new to dota2 and i was wondering if there were any good (up to date) sites where people post guides/BO's for items/... for the champions like they have for league?

I really enjoy Tiny, but when i go online to check for a guide of some sorts the 'newest' i find it like a year old (and probably not valid anymore)

When ingame, click the guide button (looks like a book in the top left) to look at ingame up to date guides.

Excludos

Norway8277 Posts

November 17 2013 14:17 GMT

#13750

The ingame guides are really good actually. There are also a few of other sites like dotafire, dotacinema, and threads here on TL

Soluhwin

United States1287 Posts

November 17 2013 14:23 GMT

#13751

On November 17 2013 22:46 BadAim wrote:
Not so much a strategy question, but does anyone know why EG.Fear(Clinton Loomis) is called "Old man"? I mean he's only in his mid twenties.

Because he's like 273 in ESPORTS years.

EcterA

United States949 Posts

November 17 2013 18:54 GMT

#13752

Does anyone have suggestions on how best to map the item hotkeys (default z,x,c,v,b,n)? I'm not completely happy with it, but not sure what I'd remap them to. Thanks!

Najda

United States3765 Posts

November 17 2013 19:02 GMT

#13753

I use those except my shop is on B and spacebar takes that item slot instead. Other options I see people use are 1-6 as item slots but that make control groups awkward, or alt + qweasd but that makes certain things difficult ir slower, and results in accidental pings. You can also watch pro's streams for alternative ideas.

EcterA

United States949 Posts

November 17 2013 19:04 GMT

#13754

Ah, that makes sense. And yeah, I thought about 1-6 but I like being able to use control groups when necessary. I'll try it with the spacebar for that last slot. Thanks!

mizU

United States12125 Posts

November 17 2013 20:37 GMT

#13755

If you've played starcraft using 4-6 for the first three items is pretty comfortable
Also using space and some of the zxc for the other items works for me

Belisarius

Australia6233 Posts

November 17 2013 22:44 GMT

#13756

I use spacebar for ult and RTGCVB for items, personally.

UberDrive

United States144 Posts

November 17 2013 23:54 GMT

#13757

I find Dotabuff to be a pretty good foundation of standard/popular builds. For example: http://dotabuff.com/heroes/tiny - Tiny usually wants to start out with regen, Branches into Magic Wand, Arcane Boots, a Bottle (if Mid), Aganim's Scepter (makes him cleave) or Blink Dagger for initiation, and then Assault Cuirass, Heart or Manta Style. I start out with 2-3 branches into Magic Wand and Tangos on almost every hero, and it's generally a solid build.

ReligionLOL

United States137 Posts

November 18 2013 03:30 GMT

#13758

When i log into dota, in the top right, there's an envelope icon (i know what it means &etc.) but the problem is that, when i click it, it takes me to the store (instead of showing me my new items). I know what items it is trying to show me b/c they are items that i got by using a diretide recipe. Here's what i have figured out: After using a diretide recipe and getting an item, if you right click that item and click equip, that item will never show up in your armory but you can view it from the loadout and the item will work in-game, but will not be visible in your armory and instead will be sent to this bugged envelope thing. BUT, if you get an item from a recipe and then click "okay / continue", the item will be in your armory and you can rightclick->equip it from there and there will be no problems. What i have not figured out (and maybe someone can help me) is how to get rid of this "stuck in unopenable envelope" bug.