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On November 11 2013 05:04 idonthinksobro wrote:
I'm still kinda new to dota and i have the following 2 problems when playing with randoms, i would assume i'm ranked very low.

1) my allies pick complete bs lineups that make it near impossible to win (i usually pick last for damage control but more often than not they just pick 4x carry)
2) i would like to play support, but if i am not a carry chances are the carry(s) in my team can't farm effienctly enough so we eventually end up losing because of that - what do?
3) how can I encourage players to play as a team, quite often everyone does random stuff and nobody reacts if a teamfight happens or a tower gets attacked.

On November 11 2013 05:09 Excludos wrote:


All normal indications for low ranked players, yes. People pick the hero they want because they think he's cool or has a fun playstyle, rather than whats needed. They also play a style more similar to singleplayer rather than actual online team game, don't ever expect the enemy team to tp into a fight, but expect to fight over lasthits from the support, and for the guy with globals to steal kills. The enemies does the same too though, for the most part.

The most control you can have over a game on your team is as solo mid. If you think you should be ranked higher, try that for a while and bring the winratio up. Even if you want to play as support, its worth doing for a month to bring yourself up to the point where your team actually manages to make use of you as support.

On November 11 2013 05:04 idonthinksobro wrote:
I'm still kinda new to dota and i have the following 2 problems when playing with randoms, i would assume i'm ranked very low.

1) my allies pick complete bs lineups that make it near impossible to win (i usually pick last for damage control but more often than not they just pick 4x carry)
2) i would like to play support, but if i am not a carry chances are the carry(s) in my team can't farm effienctly enough so we eventually end up losing because of that - what do?
3) how can I encourage players to play as a team, quite often everyone does random stuff and nobody reacts if a teamfight happens or a tower gets attacked.

On November 11 2013 05:28 idonthinksobro wrote:


Solo mid without a decent supporter is just very annoying, if they would at least ward one rune spot at the very start i could buy the second set of wards myself, but quite often nobody even buys the courier. So assuming the worst possible scenario i have to buy courier and wards myself starting with a set of tango only in mid, i don't want that.

Oh and i play with a very good friend sometimes, he plays dota 2 since beta and played at least 3 years of dota 1. I was doing quite well with him and another friend of him. We were winning 9 out of 10 games, but when i'm alone i always get very frustrating games, to the point that i don't want to play dota 2 anymore.

On November 10 2013 20:24 StoRm_res wrote:

Not that I know off ^^
At least its in the corner so it doesnt bother me so much

On November 11 2013 06:01 flamewheel wrote:

Click "view" and "okay" to put items in inventory then the notification goes away

On November 11 2013 05:45 Staboteur wrote:


1) Mostly irrelevant in lower tier games because the coordination often isn't there to take advantage of actually "good" lineups anyways, and the enemy team is likely just as bad, if not worse. I've won games with 4 "carries" and lost games against 5 "carries" (support juggernaut apparently worked!), and those have been in one of the higher brackets. Even if your lineup seems completely random, find or theorize an inherent strength of the lineup (pushing, teamfight, ganking etc) and try play towards that.

2) Playing support when your carry can't farm is frustrating. The first thing to do is to watch the replay, look very closely, and make SURE that it's just your farmer failing to lasthit, and not you or your team failing to make space for them. If you conclude that it's just them failing, then you can stop prioritizing trying to secure their farm, and instead try single pulling to push their tower, or roam to gank mid, all while asking your carry to build immediately relevant items instead of a battlefury and roam/gank/push as well.

3) Easiest to do as a support or a mid. Buy wards, command the game, ping for smokes, lead and communicate ganks. One or two good plays and your team will start to trust you and listen to you, which gives you a platform from which to build some actual team play.

On November 11 2013 08:23 Mataza wrote:

Aren't we talking low tier games?
For solo mid, wards are still only optional. In day time you can check top rune in less than 10 seconds.

The whole point for playing solo mid is that you are independent of your team.
If you are better than your enemy, you can outlane him, and depending on heroes kill him multiple times.
Depending on your hero, you can just go gank and kill all the sidelane heroes too.
If you're not really better than all the people you criticize, however.........

At least playing solo mid will teach you some important lessons about what people call tempo or flow of the game. Also it will teach you about whether or not you can kill someone or be killed in return. While less fancy, those judgment experiences are way more important than being good at lasthitting or good at "supporting".

On November 11 2013 08:52 Staboteur wrote:


Dunno what you're getting at. Was the quote an accident?

On November 11 2013 09:15 Mataza wrote:

I was mainly aiming at the paragraph about coordinating ganks wards and smoke uses. That's not lower tier stuff.

The rest is just me giving my opinion on the matter at hand.

On November 11 2013 08:23 Mataza wrote:

Aren't we talking low tier games?
For solo mid, wards are still only optional. In day time you can check top rune in less than 10 seconds.

The whole point for playing solo mid is that you are independent of your team.
If you are better than your enemy, you can outlane him, and depending on heroes kill him multiple times.
Depending on your hero, you can just go gank and kill all the sidelane heroes too.
If you're not really better than all the people you criticize, however.........

At least playing solo mid will teach you some important lessons about what people call tempo or flow of the game. Also it will teach you about whether or not you can kill someone or be killed in return. While less fancy, those judgment experiences are way more important than being good at lasthitting or good at "supporting".