You don't need much items for support alchemist actually.
Don't skill greed before maxing everything else. Alchemists spells are quite strong actually, and many people don't realize that because Alch is usually playwed very greedy.

The main problem will be to get in range for stun, so probably either phase boots or tranq boots.
Aside from that, play like a support. Have TP scrolls, defend towers, go ganking, plant wards etc.

I wouldn't recommend it for pubs, pubs are awful at realizing that you're not doing the usual thing(playing carry).

Quartal

140 Posts

November 09 2013 00:50 GMT

#13562

medallion is a pretty common item on support alchemist. similar to visage, if you throw the concoction and medallion them before it hits (and acid spray perhaps) it deals a crapton of damage. With greevil's greed, you can farm up a little by the late game, and transition to a utility / tanky hero in the late game. Mouz (a long time ago, when they had Alex) used to run support Alch pretty often, and there was a NaVi game in the Alienware Cup where Puppey played a support alch, and was given more and more farm by his team as he got levels in greed, eventually ending up with an ac / basher vod

KlaCkoN

Sweden1661 Posts

November 09 2013 01:47 GMT

#13563

DK ran support alch just the other day. (In lane with a farming visage of all things

) It's reasonably common, alchs offensive spells are really quite good and maxing them early makes him a threat both in lane and as a ganker.
Some combination of phase boots, urn, bracer, medallion for items. Mek is good if you are finding gold. So is dagger.

ReligionLOL

United States137 Posts

November 09 2013 01:50 GMT

#13564

what does cc mean? I read in a build order guide somethen like "use it after the teamfight begins, usually after they cc"

Soluhwin

United States1287 Posts

November 09 2013 01:57 GMT

#13565

On November 09 2013 10:50 ReligionLOL wrote:
what does cc mean? I read in a build order guide somethen like "use it after the teamfight begins, usually after they cc"

Crowd control, which basically means anything that prevents you from doing what you want to do. Stuns, Hex, Root, Silence, and usually Slows are examples of cc.

flamewheel

FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts

November 09 2013 04:27 GMT

#13566

On November 09 2013 02:59 Firebolt145 wrote:

Show nested quote +

He edited his answer you doofus.

i challenge ur country to 1v1

o wait

Belisarius

Australia6233 Posts

November 09 2013 08:08 GMT

#13567

Okay, what do you call the snot-green player colour?

I always end up staring at the pick screen for ages trying to talk to that guy without resorting to "snot, take a carry."

Light-blue (cyan?) and teal(?) also give me problems.

SilverSkyLark

Philippines8437 Posts

November 09 2013 10:08 GMT

#13568

On November 09 2013 17:08 Belisarius wrote:
Okay, what do you call the snot-green player colour?

I always end up staring at the pick screen for ages trying to talk to that guy without resorting to "snot, take a carry."

Light-blue (cyan?) and teal(?) also give me problems.

Usually it's teal? Which player number is this and from what side?

Belisarius

Australia6233 Posts

November 09 2013 10:38 GMT

#13569

#2 on dire.

What I would call teal is #2 on radiant.

SilverSkyLark

Philippines8437 Posts

November 09 2013 13:09 GMT

#13570

hm. light green perhaps?

How do you view sentry sight range in game?

Rodberd

Germany531 Posts

November 09 2013 14:21 GMT

#13571

only spectators can see the range of wards. the palyers wont see it.

Najda

United States3765 Posts

November 09 2013 14:23 GMT

#13572

Cyan would be #3 Dire, I suppose you could say #2 is olive or light green. You're better off just referrin to the player by name or hero though, imo.

Mataza

Germany5364 Posts

November 09 2013 14:38 GMT

#13573

Blue, Teal, Purple, Bright Yellow, Orange
Pink, Dim Yellow, Light Blue, Green, Brown

There are different names for shades of yellow, but seriously most people wouldn't understand what you mean. Lemon, orange yellow, maize, gold, mustard, naples yellow.
Either it wouldn't be the correct color or most people wouldn't even know you talk about colors. Bright and dim/dark yellow are imho the best way to differentiate.

Rodberd

Germany531 Posts

November 09 2013 14:57 GMT

#13574

just turn the settings into red/green colors according to your team and also display heronames in minimap, so you dont have the trouble of calling colors.
(little bonus, the dark green of dire is usually horrible to spot on the minimap, now you will see it clearly)

SilverSkyLark

Philippines8437 Posts

November 09 2013 17:13 GMT

#13575

To the Visage players here, how do you hotkey and use the familiars? I randomed him in an AR game earlier. I used to have this old hotkey set up from Dota 1: 1-2 hero. 3-5 courier.

This was my setup from earlier
1 - Visage
2 - Familiar 1
3 - Familiar 2
4 - Both Familiars

but I had a hard time landing the familiar where I wanted them to. The chaos of the battles just made it hard to do follow up stuns with the familiars so I moved the familiars to two and just tabbed through them which made it a bit easier to land stuns. It was still hard to get them on good spots and stun and still get to maximize soul assumption.

Staboteur

Canada1873 Posts

November 09 2013 18:44 GMT

#13576

I use f1 as hero (default) and f2 as both familiars. Rarely if ever do you want only one of your two birds to do something, and in situations where you need a specific bird to do something, it's easy enough to just select and micro them manually.

Adding individual hotkeys for them wouldn't work for me unless they had floating "1" or "2" tags above them. Especially in conjunction with a hotkey for both, it'd be impossible to keep track of which was which, and I'd probably get hung up faltering between selections and wasting time not using soul assumption or something better.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

November 09 2013 21:36 GMT

#13577

When targeted by Doom's ultimate while at low HP, is there something to do apart from hoping an ally will deny you if you don't have lifesteal? Since it deactivates most passives and items, you can't use Mekansm or TP to fountain.

Mataza

Germany5364 Posts

November 09 2013 22:00 GMT

#13578

On November 10 2013 06:36 Alaric wrote:
When targeted by Doom's ultimate while at low HP, is there something to do apart from hoping an ally will deny you if you don't have lifesteal? Since it deactivates most passives and items, you can't use Mekansm or TP to fountain.

There really isn't.
Getting denied is option a and option b is running away, hoping for the best.

PassiveAce

United States18076 Posts

November 09 2013 22:13 GMT

#13579

burst heal can be your savior, but you have to rely on your teammates since your muted. if someone has mek that can save you, chen heal, dazzle, omni, etc.