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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
November 04 2013 22:04 GMT
#13441
My brain was screaming to me that 'that is not possible' while I read your post. Feel free to find the video and prove me wrong, but I find it easier to believe you are mistaken.
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Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
November 04 2013 22:06 GMT
#13442
On November 05 2013 06:24 ReligionLOL wrote:
what does it mean to create space?


In almost any case, it means to pressure something. This can mean pushing a tower as 4 while your 1 farms, or roaming into their jungle to pressure their 1, leaving your cores to farm safely. Force the enemy team to deal with you, so they don't have time to deal with your carry before they farm their important item(s).
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
November 04 2013 22:29 GMT
#13443
Creating space can also literally be distracting the enemy. Space in this sense is just area of the map that you know is safe.
I've seen the new broodmother creating space just by fleeing a 5man gank attempt for 2 minutes.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 22:54:35
November 04 2013 22:54 GMT
#13444
On November 05 2013 06:50 ahswtini wrote:
I saw a Dota 1 highlight video once where a rhasta starts his tp, then euls himself. It didn't break tp channel and he got away.
Is this still possible in Dota, and why not in Dota 2?

link? i dont ever recall euls not breaking tp.
it doesnt work now for sure. might have worked so long ago that i dont even remember now though
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
November 04 2013 23:39 GMT
#13445
On November 05 2013 07:04 Firebolt145 wrote:
My brain was screaming to me that 'that is not possible' while I read your post. Feel free to find the video and prove me wrong, but I find it easier to believe you are mistaken.



Unless I'm missing something obvious here...
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 00:04:31
November 05 2013 00:03 GMT
#13446
A Chen or KotL? I don't remember what the effects look like in DotA 1.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 00:13:12
November 05 2013 00:08 GMT
#13447
It's KotL. His ult's Recall has the same animation as the Town Portal/Mass Teleport in WC3.

EDIT: The easy way to distinguish it from a normal TP is that the normal TP shows the light-blue glyph on the ground that's also used as the Shiva's Guard aura indicator. KotL's Recall does't create that glyph on the ground.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
November 05 2013 02:12 GMT
#13448
Oh damn well the mystery is solved thanks!
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Rodberd
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany531 Posts
November 05 2013 09:02 GMT
#13449
Kunkkas X is like a blink, right?
or can he X his allied batrider who will blink forcestaff and lasso a target and being recalled by X afterwards.

sth else with bat:
some stream yesterday (cant remember) they dreamed about lassos aswell.
can bat refresh lasso and drag 2 units at the same time (or more in wtf-mode)?
Ooooh, look at it go
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 05 2013 09:08 GMT
#13450
Moving more than 400 units 0.05s breaks Lasso, meaning that X->Lasso->return to X only works if the distance moved between the X starting point and the Lasso cast point is less than 400 units.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 09:11:52
November 05 2013 09:10 GMT
#13451
x works like a blink
lasso breaks if you blink more than ~500? 400 units

yes bat can refresh lasso and drag 2 units at the same time

edit: fixd
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
November 05 2013 14:35 GMT
#13452
How does abandoning work? Some say you abandon after 5 mins afk, some say 2 minutes without exp, some say you need to be in range of enemies and so forth. What's the consensus?
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
November 05 2013 15:17 GMT
#13453
Is there any way to check the skill bracket of the games you play in now? Either in game/dotabuff etc?
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
November 05 2013 16:59 GMT
#13454
On November 05 2013 23:35 Animzor wrote:
How does abandoning work? Some say you abandon after 5 mins afk, some say 2 minutes without exp, some say you need to be in range of enemies and so forth. What's the consensus?

5 minutes without earning exp. I think dying resets the timer though.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
November 05 2013 17:22 GMT
#13455
On November 05 2013 23:35 Animzor wrote:
How does abandoning work? Some say you abandon after 5 mins afk, some say 2 minutes without exp, some say you need to be in range of enemies and so forth. What's the consensus?


5 minutes after leaving, 5 minutes without exp
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
November 05 2013 17:40 GMT
#13456
Randomed Riki the other night. FIrst time I played him. Dominated the game. I think I was like 17-4-11 or something. I've played him a few times since then, and promptly been destroyed. A gem, dust, or well placed ward completely shuts Riki down. I'm sure this makes him a bad hero to play consistently, but I really enjoy lurking around and ganking people who are jungling and such. Is there any thing I can do to improve my survival once gems/dusts/etc come into play?
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Broesl
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria75 Posts
November 05 2013 17:54 GMT
#13457
On November 06 2013 02:40 ayaz2810 wrote:
Randomed Riki the other night. FIrst time I played him. Dominated the game. I think I was like 17-4-11 or something. I've played him a few times since then, and promptly been destroyed. A gem, dust, or well placed ward completely shuts Riki down. I'm sure this makes him a bad hero to play consistently, but I really enjoy lurking around and ganking people who are jungling and such. Is there any thing I can do to improve my survival once gems/dusts/etc come into play?


Well, using Manta as well as diffusal blading yourself removes dust.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
November 05 2013 17:58 GMT
#13458
Once you know they have detection, immediately check every enemies inventory for gem/dust/sentry. Keep doing it regularly.

A gem usually stays on the same guy in pubs, so you can identify that player and avoid him. If he is on one side of the map, you can usually gank happily wherever he isn't.
(Also tell your team immediately, it might lead to them killing him just to get rid of the gem. This is more of a gamble though, don't count on it)

Dust is reactionary and has 60 second cooldown while it makes you visible for 12 seconds. You can often still run around freely but you have to be careful when you attack someone. One or several enemies might jump on you if you engage.

Sentry wards are the most fickle thing. There is no indication that one is placed other than that lanecreeps attack you(in a lane). However pubs are often stingy with wards, as they are stationary.
Also you or your team can detetct them with your own truesight, obviously, which makes them vulnerable if just dropped down somewhere(not as obvious).
Aside from that you can often get by just avoiding areas where you were detected for 4 minutes.


All that aside, when they run around as 5 people and plop wards along the way/have a gem, you are most certainly boned as riki.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
November 05 2013 17:59 GMT
#13459
On November 06 2013 02:54 Broesl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 02:40 ayaz2810 wrote:
Randomed Riki the other night. FIrst time I played him. Dominated the game. I think I was like 17-4-11 or something. I've played him a few times since then, and promptly been destroyed. A gem, dust, or well placed ward completely shuts Riki down. I'm sure this makes him a bad hero to play consistently, but I really enjoy lurking around and ganking people who are jungling and such. Is there any thing I can do to improve my survival once gems/dusts/etc come into play?


Well, using Manta as well as diffusal blading yourself removes dust.


use gem to deward yourself.
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
November 05 2013 18:14 GMT
#13460
On November 06 2013 02:54 Broesl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 02:40 ayaz2810 wrote:
Randomed Riki the other night. FIrst time I played him. Dominated the game. I think I was like 17-4-11 or something. I've played him a few times since then, and promptly been destroyed. A gem, dust, or well placed ward completely shuts Riki down. I'm sure this makes him a bad hero to play consistently, but I really enjoy lurking around and ganking people who are jungling and such. Is there any thing I can do to improve my survival once gems/dusts/etc come into play?


Well, using Manta as well as diffusal blading yourself removes dust.


I had no idea you could diffuse yourself. What a great idea.... and since I have never gotten the hang of double quoting, I'll just say that carrying around my own gem seems like a viable option I guess. I feel like that slot would be better used for something else. But, survival > all I guess.

And I think positioning being a big deal, and general map awareness, makes total sense. I guess I just need to play smarter. Unless they're roaming in a pack of 5... then I just smoke and hope I don't get owned too fast =\

Thanks!
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