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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
October 22 2013 06:56 GMT
#13101
Big numbers are fun.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8915 Posts
October 22 2013 07:39 GMT
#13102
yeah who doesnt like seeing 1.5k crits
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
October 22 2013 07:57 GMT
#13103
She can snowball incredibly hard for a carry and become a 1v5 critlord train if she isn't shut down.
Rodberd
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany531 Posts
October 22 2013 09:22 GMT
#13104
whats you thought about the a-z-challenge?
should a relatively new player do it or not?

right now im thinking to repeat it (did it whithout knowing like 50% when i was totally new to dota)

pro:
i get a second insight of all heros, esp those which i dont pick usually (read carries)

con:
can mess up the game for my team when i hit heros i cant play (like meepo)
i might get stuck with some heros (read meepo) which might be frustrating for me and my team, since they have to play basically 4v5
Ooooh, look at it go
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
October 22 2013 10:02 GMT
#13105
Hmm, the main thing that struck me when trying out the new Brood is not even being able to walk on trees and cliffs, it's being able to walk through units (and buildings :D) as well. This makes microing your spiders much easier since it no longer matters if they are in your way or not, you'll simply walk through them anyway. When diving the base I could just put up a quick web and walk straight through the base tower to get into melee range.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 22 2013 11:00 GMT
#13106
On October 22 2013 11:12 Dead9 wrote:
i think drums sux in most cases
if you feel like you need more damage before bkb it means ur not farming fast enough
phase blink bkb should be up by 25ish at the latest, generally around 20 minutes tho


Drums aren't so bad for supports I think (though I haven't used it in a long time as a support). It's not as costly, gives a bit more hp, there's more ms/as and you can boost your teams as/ms in team fights.

Though there are better items for supports like Mek or Urn or Force Staff..
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8915 Posts
October 22 2013 13:01 GMT
#13107
drums are pretty bad on supports. the only thing you really want from drums is the bracer and ms, and the ms is given to you anyway if someone else gets drums. might as well use the money and get a force/blink/ghost scepter
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
October 22 2013 13:27 GMT
#13108
Yea, carries make better use of the stats drums give you.

Question: I was trying out the new Broodmother yesterday, and I still cant figure out how to be useful with the hero. The webs are really awesome for being nearly impossible to kill, but I still hit that wall with her where Ive spit pushed, taken towers and forced a lot of attention on myself, but I cant transition into anything useful in the 30-40 minute mark. I wasnt much of a factor in teamfights despite all the farming I did. I have no idea what to do once Ive taken outer towers (t3 is a bitch to take, and by that time People have usually bought BoTs to deal with the splitpush) or when to join fights. Item build was phase / manta / butterfly / basher (BKB did little vs their team).

It still seems like the type of hero Id only ever choose if i had a team 100% commited to split pushing
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
October 22 2013 13:35 GMT
#13109
On October 22 2013 22:27 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Yea, carries make better use of the stats drums give you.

Question: I was trying out the new Broodmother yesterday, and I still cant figure out how to be useful with the hero. The webs are really awesome for being nearly impossible to kill, but I still hit that wall with her where Ive spit pushed, taken towers and forced a lot of attention on myself, but I cant transition into anything useful in the 30-40 minute mark. I wasnt much of a factor in teamfights despite all the farming I did. I have no idea what to do once Ive taken outer towers (t3 is a bitch to take, and by that time People have usually bought BoTs to deal with the splitpush) or when to join fights. Item build was phase / manta / butterfly / basher (BKB did little vs their team).

It still seems like the type of hero Id only ever choose if i had a team 100% commited to split pushing


It is ok to not have sick teamfight or overall fight power at all. BM excels at staying in the lane, push hard and punish any teamfight by taking the towers. I am sure someone will disapprove this and come with the skill set(passive and ulti especially) arguments. I also failed to build her as a proper carry even with orchid.
You should split and choke the opponent in the lane by skill harass and with spiders if no aoe is present.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
October 22 2013 13:39 GMT
#13110
Does silence cancel channeling spells eg black hole?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
October 22 2013 13:45 GMT
#13111
On October 22 2013 22:27 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Yea, carries make better use of the stats drums give you.

Question: I was trying out the new Broodmother yesterday, and I still cant figure out how to be useful with the hero. The webs are really awesome for being nearly impossible to kill, but I still hit that wall with her where Ive spit pushed, taken towers and forced a lot of attention on myself, but I cant transition into anything useful in the 30-40 minute mark. I wasnt much of a factor in teamfights despite all the farming I did. I have no idea what to do once Ive taken outer towers (t3 is a bitch to take, and by that time People have usually bought BoTs to deal with the splitpush) or when to join fights. Item build was phase / manta / butterfly / basher (BKB did little vs their team).

It still seems like the type of hero Id only ever choose if i had a team 100% commited to split pushing

My goals when playing brood is to deny their woods, pressure one lane and punish the one fools enough to come 1v1 me. Then concerning team, it's the heroe I feel the more dependant on my mates, she's at her best when the other 4 have a good teamfight comp and can achieve objectives when they're 4o3. So I would say brood is as good as your mates' understanding how to play with brood.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
October 22 2013 13:49 GMT
#13112
On October 22 2013 22:39 Ryder. wrote:
Does silence cancel channeling spells eg black hole?

Yes
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 14:00:28
October 22 2013 13:59 GMT
#13113
broods problem before 6.79 was never about dying too easily. the broodmother change and the bloodseeker changes are some of the most gimmicky/stupid changes ive ever seen in any patch. brood is still shit against any team who knows how to handle her, same goes for bloodseeker.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 22 2013 14:30 GMT
#13114
bloodseeker was very good before the patch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 14:50:22
October 22 2013 14:37 GMT
#13115
BS seems almost nerfed from his former role since one of his biggest advantages was being able to sit at a creep wave mid denying them over and over again to prevent a ranged hero from leveling quickly. Of course with the buffs he might find a new niche so we'll see.

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Anyone know how the new venomancer works with his wards?

-Does the slow from the ward's poison sting and veno's poison sting stack?
-Do the wards apply their own buff that does 0 damage when the target already has been hit by veno's poison sting or do they extend the duration of the current poison sting debuff? For example if I hit someone with a poison sting auto-attack then my ward starts hitting them will the ward keep extending the full 100% damage poison sting from veno or will it apply its own buff placer that will start dealing damage once the sting from veno wears off?
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 22 2013 15:05 GMT
#13116
What items to get on jungle axe now that tranqs don't work on him anymore?
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 15:21:13
October 22 2013 15:12 GMT
#13117
On October 22 2013 18:22 Rodberd wrote:
whats you thought about the a-z-challenge?
should a relatively new player do it or not?

right now im thinking to repeat it (did it whithout knowing like 50% when i was totally new to dota)

pro:
i get a second insight of all heros, esp those which i dont pick usually (read carries)

con:
can mess up the game for my team when i hit heros i cant play (like meepo)
i might get stuck with some heros (read meepo) which might be frustrating for me and my team, since they have to play basically 4v5


I have zero sympathy for noobs who try to play a hero like invoker or meepo and get yelled at when they've not played at least one game with comps to try it out. For higher skilled/difficult heroes do everyone a favor and practice a computer game first.

I am new myself, but it is annoying when people have so little respect for others. Many heroes you can get away with playing for the first time in matchmaking once you get a general feel for the game (in my experience as a new player), but the more unique ones I'd definitely practice first.

I was playing with a TL'r the other day who went crystal maiden, and when I click on him mid-game he has level 4 aura and ZERO levels in crystal nova. I'm a nice, forgiving person... but at that point you're not bad, you're disrespectful of other people's time by not taking literally 30 seconds to check out a basic skill guide.

Valve should make how to use the in-game guides made by people more obvious, took me a while to learn to use them. They might not always be optimal but they're usually not awful.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8915 Posts
October 22 2013 15:25 GMT
#13118
has it ever occurred to you that the cm might have chosen his skill build for a reason? just because a person doesnt play a hero the way you want them to it doesnt make them bad or disrespectful. i find people like that all the time, and occasionally i like to do stupid shit myself, but i dont call them bad or disrespectful (unless theyre actually doing stupid shit like tossing teammates in to die)
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 15:41:31
October 22 2013 15:26 GMT
#13119
On October 23 2013 00:25 evilfatsh1t wrote:
has it ever occurred to you that the cm might have chosen his skill build for a reason? just because a person doesnt play a hero the way you want them to it doesnt make them bad or disrespectful. i find people like that all the time, and occasionally i like to do stupid shit myself, but i dont call them bad or disrespectful (unless theyre actually doing stupid shit like tossing teammates in to die)


Nope he was just bad. We didn't have a team comp that was mana hungry or anything, and even then... Apparently his lane partner (they were duo lane) didn't notice and then in mid-game noted they could've had some kills that were close if they'd just had the nova.

Sorry if I sound overly serious. Even in the game I mention I just laughed it off, though I did tell the guy he should spend a minute consulting a general guide or something in the future.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 15:40:13
October 22 2013 15:39 GMT
#13120
On October 23 2013 00:05 Najda wrote:
What items to get on jungle axe now that tranqs don't work on him anymore?


I'm curious what people suggest. I'd think just stick with brown boots (phase might be nice, but other items you want more). The armor is really nice though, perhaps get the ring of protection for casual armor and then just sell it later? Meanwhile, rush vanguard then blink generally off brown boots+RoP. Just have to get the ring of health (the 875 one) asap (perhaps before even boots) so you can jungle effectively.
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