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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 15:48:15
October 21 2013 14:43 GMT
#13081
im wrong and shouldnt answer here
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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
October 21 2013 15:33 GMT
#13082
On October 21 2013 23:43 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 23:42 woreyour wrote:
can you omnislash a courier? (the question came up yesterday, navi vs eg/tl)


iv never seen it happen but im pretty sure since omnislash does physical damage and can target magic immune units it should go off with its full effect.


You might still not be able to target it with the spell I think. Without checking anything I'll claim that it works like anciencts and rosh that some things cannot be targeted on it, but a jump from slash started on some other target could bounce on it. I didn't check or know anything though :D
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 15:47:53
October 21 2013 15:44 GMT
#13083
On October 22 2013 00:33 Oukka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 23:43 PassiveAce wrote:
On October 21 2013 23:42 woreyour wrote:
can you omnislash a courier? (the question came up yesterday, navi vs eg/tl)


iv never seen it happen but im pretty sure since omnislash does physical damage and can target magic immune units it should go off with its full effect.


You might still not be able to target it with the spell I think. Without checking anything I'll claim that it works like anciencts and rosh that some things cannot be targeted on it, but a jump from slash started on some other target could bounce on it. I didn't check or know anything though :D

yeah wait u might be right I think the courier is classified as an ancient for some purposes? fuck now i have to look it up.

Apparently its unable to hit the courier, sorry for my mistake.
Omnislash can neither target, nor jump to a courier.
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Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
October 21 2013 16:39 GMT
#13084
How do you start a practice match?
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
October 21 2013 17:34 GMT
#13085
As Tinker what can I do to minimize time spent walking to/from base early game? I feel that once I get all my stuff (boots, scythe, soul ring) I'm really strong but it takes so long to get there and in the meantime I'm a punching bag for other heroes. Any tips?
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8915 Posts
October 21 2013 17:42 GMT
#13086
dont go back to base so often? you should be getting a bottle and rushing travels most of the time. if youre doing it right you will have travels in under 10mins, and from there you should be spending 0 time walking anywhere
Carmine
Profile Joined September 2010
United States263 Posts
October 21 2013 18:01 GMT
#13087
With venomancer, does his different sources of poison stack? I know that the orb of venom stacks with his poison sting, and I know that in the new patch (6.79) the plague wards poison sting will be overridden by venomancer's poison sting because he has higher DPS. I am wondering mostly about the DoT caused by his spells, Venomous Gale and Poison Nova, and if that stacks with the DoT of poison sting.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 21 2013 18:17 GMT
#13088
On October 22 2013 03:01 Carmine wrote:
With venomancer, does his different sources of poison stack? I know that the orb of venom stacks with his poison sting, and I know that in the new patch (6.79) the plague wards poison sting will be overridden by venomancer's poison sting because he has higher DPS. I am wondering mostly about the DoT caused by his spells, Venomous Gale and Poison Nova, and if that stacks with the DoT of poison sting.

Yes, they all stack. With OoV you can have 4 sources at once
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
October 21 2013 18:41 GMT
#13089
On October 22 2013 02:42 evilfatsh1t wrote:
dont go back to base so often? you should be getting a bottle and rushing travels most of the time. if youre doing it right you will have travels in under 10mins, and from there you should be spending 0 time walking anywhere


Yeah I'm probably doing something wrong because I'm not very good at the game but BoT takes me forever to get. Do you have a recommended build to help with farming / not dying so much?
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 21 2013 19:02 GMT
#13090
bottle->travels->soul ring->blink pretty much always
generally 4040 -> 4441 -> 4442 (stronger laning)
or 1440 -> 1441 -> 4441 -> 4442 (stronger midgame)
laser/rocket is fine too but it's much harder to play

don't miss lasthits, stack the ancients and/or hard camp if you get a chance
you can get soul ring before travels if you plan on jungling a lot before your travels. basically if you stack a bunch of camps or your team is stacking a lot for you. also works well if you plan on rotating to the jungle and letting someone else take mid for a while
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
October 21 2013 19:07 GMT
#13091
On October 22 2013 04:02 Dead9 wrote:
bottle->travels->soul ring->blink pretty much always
generally 4040 -> 4441 -> 4442 (stronger laning)
or 1440 -> 1441 -> 4441 -> 4442 (stronger midgame)
laser/rocket is fine too but it's much harder to play

don't miss lasthits, stack the ancients and/or hard camp if you get a chance
you can get soul ring before travels if you plan on jungling a lot before your travels. basically if you stack a bunch of camps or your team is stacking a lot for you. also works well if you plan on rotating to the jungle and letting someone else take mid for a while

I think soul ring before BoTs can be ok too sometimes, especially if you have a really good ancient stack and you're playing radiant
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 19:23:08
October 21 2013 19:22 GMT
#13092
On October 22 2013 04:02 Dead9 wrote:
generally 4040 -> 4441 -> 4442 (stronger laning)
or 1440 -> 1441 -> 4441 -> 4442 (stronger midgame)


In noob, this means... march and lasers first max first or March and rockets but get 1 laser?
Sorry I've played like maybe 10 games of dota total so far.

Also, the blink dagger > Scythe? I find the hex ability great for team fights or if I'm getting attacked because I can basically 100% shut down 1 hero with hex, lasers, rockets, rearm, scythe, etc.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 21 2013 20:58 GMT
#13093
Follow-up after Blink has a lot of variability. You end up swimming in gold because of how easy it is to farm with Travels+Blink, but your impact really depends on making good, flexible item selection from that point because of how different each item choice makes your presence. It's really hard to recommend a "cookie-cutter" item choice after that.
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BadAim
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway879 Posts
October 21 2013 21:03 GMT
#13094
Someone care to explain to me why ppl go vlads and not hotd-->satanic lategame on Troll? Is it the dmg buff? Cuz it cant be the armor, hotd has the same amount.The only reason I can think of right now, is the manaregen coupled with the lifesteal - which is cheaper than buying a hotd + ring of basilus-->aquila.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 21 2013 21:14 GMT
#13095
Well the RoB is strong in lane but also if you think about what troll does, he is very good at playing a secondary carry role, helping a primary carry be more effective. Vlads helps that a lot since it is aura based. In addition, troll turns essentially any lineup into a pushing one with his ult. Vlads helps pushes quite nicely.

Beyond that though, I personally prefer the HotD -> satanic itemization much more in pubs. Better carry potential, plus it allows very early roshes with a dominated creep.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 21 2013 21:14 GMT
#13096
On October 22 2013 04:22 DinoMight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 04:02 Dead9 wrote:
generally 4040 -> 4441 -> 4442 (stronger laning)
or 1440 -> 1441 -> 4441 -> 4442 (stronger midgame)


In noob, this means... march and lasers first max first or March and rockets but get 1 laser?
Sorry I've played like maybe 10 games of dota total so far.

Also, the blink dagger > Scythe? I find the hex ability great for team fights or if I'm getting attacked because I can basically 100% shut down 1 hero with hex, lasers, rockets, rearm, scythe, etc.

yeah, laser march or rocket march. get laser at 1
scythe, euls, force, dagon are all reasonable followups after blink depending on the game
ghost, linkens, shivas are workable but much more situational
i like dagon eblade the most
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 23:30:59
October 21 2013 23:30 GMT
#13097
When I play TA I feel like I need more attack speed/damage before I get my BKB.
Is a yasha recommended over drums because it builds into other items, or is drums usually the better choice as it gives some int and str
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 22 2013 02:12 GMT
#13098
i think drums sux in most cases
if you feel like you need more damage before bkb it means ur not farming fast enough
phase blink bkb should be up by 25ish at the latest, generally around 20 minutes tho
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
October 22 2013 03:16 GMT
#13099
On October 22 2013 06:03 BadAim wrote:
Someone care to explain to me why ppl go vlads and not hotd-->satanic lategame on Troll? Is it the dmg buff? Cuz it cant be the armor, hotd has the same amount.The only reason I can think of right now, is the manaregen coupled with the lifesteal - which is cheaper than buying a hotd + ring of basilus-->aquila.

HotD --> satanic isn't that uncommon on Troll.

Vlads has the advantage of being an aura item, meaning it buffs the entire team and allows you to push lanes harder.
Dodge arrows
Daaktard
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden380 Posts
October 22 2013 06:52 GMT
#13100
This might not be a question with any real answer but I looked at dotabuff and PA is the 10th most played hero this month. why do pubs pick her so much(don't think the new patch has kicked in yet)? Doesn't feel like she can stomp/dominate pubs as much as other popular picks.
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