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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8272 Posts
July 07 2013 23:01 GMT
#10281
On July 08 2013 07:52 Cyx. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 23:50 Excludos wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:49 Zuxo wrote:
Yeah I just tried out bottle and it felt a lot better then going boots first


I take back what I said above. You need boots first if you're going to do it this way. You wont be able to stack both camps otherwise. But I'd still go bottle second instead of tranquil.

It's been a while since I tried jungling Bat but from what I remember tranquils aren't really necessary if you're just sitting in the jungle - if you get in fights before level 6 at all, though, tranquils can really help you get back into the jungle without wasting time going back to base to heal.


You'd still have major mana problems though. which is all he needs in woods anyways. He's able to farm through very little hp as long as he has napalm and firefly.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 08 2013 00:21 GMT
#10282
you can just go back to base after clearing the big stack at 5min. Or if you dont feel like it, ferry yourself clarities/pot
naked boots into blink works
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 00:30:59
July 08 2013 00:30 GMT
#10283
On July 08 2013 09:21 Erasme wrote:
you can just go back to base after clearing the big stack at 5min. Or if you dont feel like it, ferry yourself clarities/pot
naked boots into blink works


The whole point is to avoid having to do those things, as it costs both time, xp and money. Your aim should be to never have to return to base if possible.
Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 11:31:59
July 08 2013 01:52 GMT
#10284
The 2 ways to jungle bat are to go boots first and bottle first. I don't play bat much so i dont know which is faster but ive seen both get extremely fast blinks.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 08 2013 02:37 GMT
#10285
Bottle first is more or less expecting to be able to Bottle crow so that you don't have to go home--the time saved from going home makes the Bottle pay for itself well before you get your Blink.

However, if your mid hero and/or off-laner are Bottle-crowing already, this limits the courier time you can get, which means a lot of the time you'd still need to go home anyway. In that case you may as well just skip the Bottle.
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Profile Joined July 2013
France5 Posts
July 08 2013 03:19 GMT
#10286
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Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
July 08 2013 05:36 GMT
#10287
On July 07 2013 22:22 Excludos wrote:
dota_disable_range_finder "0" still works I believe. If I haven't grabbed the wrong command, this one gives you an arrow which turns darker when the spell is out of range.


Does this work for all targeted spells? That sounds really handy I had never heard of it before. I never actually used any range radiuses but I will definitely give this a go when I get home from work.

I did a quick google, and found a forum post explaining how to keep it on, though there were no replies after as to whether it works or not. "Type host_writeconfig after dota_disable_range_finder 0"

If this works it seems like it could be pretty useful.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 10:06:06
July 08 2013 10:02 GMT
#10288
is steam down? or dota 2?

edit: nvm hehe :D
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Jelissei
Profile Joined June 2012
193 Posts
July 08 2013 11:02 GMT
#10289
On July 08 2013 14:36 Myrddraal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 22:22 Excludos wrote:
dota_disable_range_finder "0" still works I believe. If I haven't grabbed the wrong command, this one gives you an arrow which turns darker when the spell is out of range.


Does this work for all targeted spells? That sounds really handy I had never heard of it before. I never actually used any range radiuses but I will definitely give this a go when I get home from work.

I did a quick google, and found a forum post explaining how to keep it on, though there were no replies after as to whether it works or not. "Type host_writeconfig after dota_disable_range_finder 0"

If this works it seems like it could be pretty useful.


I use it, but its usefullness is very limited. If there is only minor action you will not see the arrow anymore.
As an alternative to hovering over the skill (which shows the radius as a circle) it´s pretty good though. If you want to plan an ambush it does help.

The dota_range_display command was way better though! I actually had my arrow keys bound to four different ranges. Night vision, tower true sight range, XP range and 600 (as a lot of skills and ranged attacks use that). I was pretty sad, that it got considered a cheat : (
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 13:40:11
July 08 2013 13:39 GMT
#10290
When does pugna's ward damage heroes with instant cast-points? if sandking burrowstrikes in range of a nether ward on low health will he die before the stun or will he get the spell off?
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8272 Posts
July 08 2013 13:41 GMT
#10291
On July 08 2013 22:39 PassiveAce wrote:
When does pugna's ward damage heroes with instant cast-points? if sandking burrowstrikes in range of a nether ward on low health will he die before the stun or will he get the spell off?


The damage goes off before the spell if I remember correctly. If Luna shoots her laguna blade on low hp, she will die without the spell ever going off.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-08 13:45:06
July 08 2013 13:43 GMT
#10292
yes I know that, but lina has a long ass cast-point (in comparison at least). My question is in regards to heroes without cast-points. I'm not sure if its the same for everyone or if heroes with instant cast get their spells off.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8272 Posts
July 08 2013 13:52 GMT
#10293
On July 08 2013 22:43 PassiveAce wrote:
yes I know that, but lina has a long ass cast-point (in comparison at least). My question is in regards to heroes without cast-points. I'm not sure if its the same for everyone or if heroes with instant cast get their spells off.


No, burrowstrike wont go off. No hero have instant cast time, they're just really quickly. Unfortunately, not quick enough for the ward.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 08 2013 14:03 GMT
#10294
On July 08 2013 22:52 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 22:43 PassiveAce wrote:
yes I know that, but lina has a long ass cast-point (in comparison at least). My question is in regards to heroes without cast-points. I'm not sure if its the same for everyone or if heroes with instant cast get their spells off.


No, burrowstrike wont go off. No hero have instant cast time, they're just really quickly. Unfortunately, not quick enough for the ward.

There are heroes with instant cast-points actually, at least according to Dota2wiki and some other independant graph that I cant source atm.
Thanks for the answer tho, I think that you're right regardless
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 08 2013 14:20 GMT
#10295
I think the damage is dealt at the point when mana is spent. For no cast point heroes it's instant obv
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 08 2013 14:26 GMT
#10296
o yeah.
duh.
lol
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 08 2013 14:53 GMT
#10297
"Instant" is sort of a weird concept when it comes do DotA anyway, because the way triggers work allow triggered events to happen even before "instant" things.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 08 2013 15:08 GMT
#10298
On July 08 2013 23:53 TheYango wrote:
"Instant" is sort of a weird concept when it comes do DotA anyway, because the way triggers work allow triggered events to happen even before "instant" things.

That's coz dota has a time traveler. #backtrack
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 08 2013 15:11 GMT
#10299
I have a weird technical problem.
Every time I start Dota, it warns me that steam cloud can't sync me. I can still play though, but it weirds me the hell out.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 08 2013 15:15 GMT
#10300
On July 09 2013 00:11 Mataza wrote:
I have a weird technical problem.
Every time I start Dota, it warns me that steam cloud can't sync me. I can still play though, but it weirds me the hell out.

Might be a windows security thing, maybe try turning the cloud of for some time or in general, it only matters if you use your steam on other computers. Right click dota in steam > properties > updates > enable steam cloud synchronization. There's a chance your firewall is blocking this particular service so look around there if you want to use cloud
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