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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 16 2013 06:33 GMT
#9621
mushi is well known for having a really good od and ohaiyo rarely loses on wr
i don't watch dk games very often but i think they like to run alch, idk about treant tho
SCC
Profile Joined September 2012
12 Posts
June 16 2013 08:34 GMT
#9622
How legit do you think is MoM on Drow?
You can't kill what you can't kill
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 16 2013 08:40 GMT
#9623
Situationally ok in a game that allows for it.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 16 2013 09:03 GMT
#9624
if they can't get to you easily (aka no cw or blink nukers) then it's really good
better on sniper tho
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 16 2013 10:50 GMT
#9625
Mom is usually considered a pubstomp item. Beyond everything else it allows you to kill people faster. But if you aren't able to kill them in the first place, it doesn't do that much.
It's only defensive use is running away slightly faster.
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Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
June 16 2013 12:20 GMT
#9626
does rupture do damage on nether swap?
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 16 2013 13:02 GMT
#9627
Depends on the distance.
If the ruptured hero moves more than a certain distance in I think 0.05 seconds, then it does no damage. That is so that using a town portal to get away is possible.

The next post by someone else will undoubtedly give you the exact numbers.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
June 16 2013 13:05 GMT
#9628
If the affected unit moves more than 1300 distance in 0.25 seconds, it will not receive any damage.


...which also means if you misclick your TP and TP to a place that's less than 1300 range away you can gloriously kill yourself and create lots of fun for everyone around. Except for yourself maybe.
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Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 13:43:07
June 16 2013 13:41 GMT
#9629
On June 16 2013 22:05 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
If the affected unit moves more than 1300 distance in 0.25 seconds, it will not receive any damage.


...which also means if you misclick your TP and TP to a place that's less than 1300 range away you can gloriously kill yourself and create lots of fun for everyone around. Except for yourself maybe.


so it should deal disgusting dmg then? since netherswap max range is 1200?

if this is true, with the buff to bs doing dmg through bkb, thats one painful combo
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 18:23:26
June 16 2013 13:52 GMT
#9630
On June 16 2013 22:41 Tsutchie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2013 22:05 r.Evo wrote:
If the affected unit moves more than 1300 distance in 0.25 seconds, it will not receive any damage.


...which also means if you misclick your TP and TP to a place that's less than 1300 range away you can gloriously kill yourself and create lots of fun for everyone around. Except for yourself maybe.


so it should deal disgusting dmg then? since netherswap max range is 1200?

if this is true, with the buff to bs doing dmg through bkb, thats one painful combo


60% of 1200 moved units is only 720 damage, yeah? That's two level 3 ults used for 720 damage... + Show Spoiler +
and the going through BKB is kinda irrelevant as you can't netherswap through BKB.
(Edit - nevermind, I am le derp :D)

Both ults intend to misposition your opponent badly enough that they're dead anyways... using both is probably overkill in most cases
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 16 2013 13:52 GMT
#9631
If by disgusting you mean 720, then yes.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 16 2013 13:53 GMT
#9632
i think you can swap through bkb
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 16 2013 13:54 GMT
#9633
You can swap throu BKB. That's half the point of VS
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
June 16 2013 14:31 GMT
#9634
Yes you can that's why vs is a great enigma counter
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
June 16 2013 17:38 GMT
#9635
Is Lina better in 4th position or 5th position?

I'm thinking since she got so much burst and will blow many heros up with her combo early on, she might be given more farm as support.

Also Chuan always plays Lina when iG plays Lina.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 16 2013 17:55 GMT
#9636
On June 17 2013 02:38 TOCHMY wrote:
Is Lina better in 4th position or 5th position?

I'm thinking since she got so much burst and will blow many heros up with her combo early on, she might be given more farm as support.

Also Chuan always plays Lina when iG plays Lina.

Game dependent. What is the other support, how much farm is the team getting overall. Lina can use some farm but there is no special item synergy on her unless you are going some silly carry lina that abuses her AS, so only regular support items apply to her
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Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
June 16 2013 18:34 GMT
#9637
(Good to know on swap going through BKB! Thanks d00ds)

Could you do some silly gimmicky strat with venge / luna / drow and Lina abusing the ridiculous buff that fiery soul provides? I've always wondered, and I've had a few games where there's a friendly Drow on the map that lets me absolutely wreck faces as lina... but I've never tried it in a coordinated effort or on purpose.

Mostly because Lina's attack animation is absolute shite, and I'm too bad at the game to actually CS with her ^^
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 16 2013 18:35 GMT
#9638
On June 17 2013 03:34 Staboteur wrote:
(Good to know on swap going through BKB! Thanks d00ds)

Could you do some silly gimmicky strat with venge / luna / drow and Lina abusing the ridiculous buff that fiery soul provides? I've always wondered, and I've had a few games where there's a friendly Drow on the map that lets me absolutely wreck faces as lina... but I've never tried it in a coordinated effort or on purpose.

Mostly because Lina's attack animation is absolute shite, and I'm too bad at the game to actually CS with her ^^


Why use lina at all? The venge/luna/drow trilane is pretty hilarious.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 16 2013 19:15 GMT
#9639
It's hilarious and actually quite bad. Drow/Luna/VS is a glass cannon combo.
To make the most of Luna's aura, you need to make something happen while 38 damage is still powerful. The other 2 auras are not that exciting early on to be honest.
The real problem is, between the 3 heroes is almost no defensive potential and very lacking initiation.
But against pubs it can be quite hilarious to push 100 damage up to 200, when it works.
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Porkz
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark1027 Posts
June 16 2013 21:34 GMT
#9640
What is the interaction between uphill miss chance and evasion?
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