• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:38
CEST 22:38
KST 05:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !16Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week 89
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes
Brood War
General
Lights Ro.8 Review (asl s21) 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 ASL21 General Discussion vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread War of Dots, 2026 minimalst RTS Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1640 users

Simple Questions, Simple Answers - Page 186

Forum Index > Dota 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 184 185 186 187 188 1254 Next
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 14 2012 00:06 GMT
#3701
Is "Just go jungle Ursa" too simplified? :>
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 14 2012 00:43 GMT
#3702
I'd go with Rhasta. After you kill them in lane you can easily take towers with wards to give more space to go around ursa'ing people. The extra burst of Lion (finger) would be good for securing kills, but since neither of them are really good as pushing you aren't going to gain map control so you can roam around and get more fed.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
September 14 2012 01:11 GMT
#3703
out of the two rhasta
cm, lich, wisp are all better tho
but he should be in the jungle anyway
CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
September 14 2012 01:11 GMT
#3704
On September 14 2012 09:05 danl9rm wrote:
This isn't really a simple question, but I didn't want to make a dumb blog about it or something, so here it is.

Me and a friend were having an argument about the best laning partner for ursa. Between us two arguing, it came down to Lion and Rhasta. For the purposes of this question, let's just keep it to those two heroes. Who is better in a lane with Ursa? Lion, or Rhasta?

You can go as deep as you feel like with your answer. Please don't simplify it into something like, "Rhasta's disables last longer, so rhasta." It's just not that simple.

With that stipulation, I'm wondering why I put this question in this thread. It just seems like the right place.

Thanks to anyone that cares to answer.

Between those two heroes (personally, for the record, I'd go with venomancer), I'd take rhasta. Net may be interruptible, but it's crazy good, and dual-stun lanes aren't that common, so there should always be a valid target. That's relatively inconsequential, though - the important part is that once laning is over, I'd much rather have a rhasta on my team than a lion, with the possible exception of playing against a morphling - and even then, I'd want the lion soloed for more experience and a faster dagger. Then again, I usually prefer a soloed rhasta, too.

Like I said, though, my personal preference would be venomancer. Gale is that good, and after laning, he still contributes a fuckton, even with practically no items.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
September 14 2012 04:58 GMT
#3705
Thanks guys.

And to the guy above me, I actually just said to him earlier, "Hey, let's try veno/ursa next game. I know we win every time anyway when we go ursa/(lion/rhasta), but let's see what veno can do."

Hah.

Probably everyone has played those "combos" to death, but we usually try more obscure stuff and pick those when we need a win.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
September 14 2012 07:14 GMT
#3706
Rhasta's a better pusher, but lion's hex is now longer, which is better if either hero can interrupt you.

Veno's not going to work if they have a stun.
Thug[ro]
Profile Joined October 2005
Romania340 Posts
September 14 2012 18:17 GMT
#3707
Can you guys play after this last update? my dota2 freezez after i pick any hero...and i just have to kill it from task manager...
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 14 2012 18:47 GMT
#3708
On September 15 2012 03:17 Thug[ro] wrote:
Can you guys play after this last update? my dota2 freezez after i pick any hero...and i just have to kill it from task manager...


There have been some strange bugs with this patch that have not appeared before. I would not say that you are alone.

thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
wcLLg
Profile Joined December 2011
United States281 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 04:04:55
September 15 2012 04:04 GMT
#3709
What's the fastest possible way to get a midas on Nature's Prophet? And at what time would you get it? (sorry if this has been posted I did a quick search and didn't find anything )
11110000011111000
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
September 15 2012 05:49 GMT
#3710
gloves first into first blood triple kill and all the lasthits
~1 minute
wcLLg
Profile Joined December 2011
United States281 Posts
September 15 2012 06:38 GMT
#3711
Let me rephrase that I thought this might happen. What's the fastest possible way to get a midas on Nature's Prophet in the jungle without getting any kills, towers or hero exp from any killed hero or any exp from any lane? Thanks
11110000011111000
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
September 15 2012 08:16 GMT
#3712
On September 15 2012 15:38 wcLLg wrote:
Let me rephrase that I thought this might happen. What's the fastest possible way to get a midas on Nature's Prophet in the jungle without getting any kills, towers or hero exp from any killed hero or any exp from any lane? Thanks

Lvl 1 rosh with you getting the last hit
Moderator
cheeseosaur
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia134 Posts
September 15 2012 08:42 GMT
#3713
What is the best setup hotkeys for inventory and skills? If anyone knows what some well-known pros use that would be great as well :D
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 15 2012 08:45 GMT
#3714
Optimal hotkey setup depends on a number of things : Size of your hand, games you played previously, daily routine as well as desk and computer setup. Also don't follow pros, many of them played the game before changing hotkeys was even an option
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
September 15 2012 09:23 GMT
#3715
On September 15 2012 15:38 wcLLg wrote:
Let me rephrase that I thought this might happen. What's the fastest possible way to get a midas on Nature's Prophet in the jungle without getting any kills, towers or hero exp from any killed hero or any exp from any lane? Thanks


There are some guides out there google it. If you would like the 10 sec version, start with gloves and clarity, get treants at 0:00 in the fountain, regen the mana head to the jungle, get the big camp with 2*2 treants, go for the middle camp if there are no minotaurs there, check back if dark trolls spawned at the big camp, if youre safelane is a solo, stack and pull for him, always get clarities to have mana for teleport + sprout so you can help the lanes, repeat.
wcLLg
Profile Joined December 2011
United States281 Posts
September 15 2012 10:22 GMT
#3716
On September 15 2012 17:16 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 15:38 wcLLg wrote:
Let me rephrase that I thought this might happen. What's the fastest possible way to get a midas on Nature's Prophet in the jungle without getting any kills, towers or hero exp from any killed hero or any exp from any lane? Thanks

Lvl 1 rosh with you getting the last hit


I don't think Rosh is "in the jungle." But nice try
11110000011111000
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
September 15 2012 10:32 GMT
#3717
On September 15 2012 19:22 wcLLg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 17:16 Firebolt145 wrote:
On September 15 2012 15:38 wcLLg wrote:
Let me rephrase that I thought this might happen. What's the fastest possible way to get a midas on Nature's Prophet in the jungle without getting any kills, towers or hero exp from any killed hero or any exp from any lane? Thanks

Lvl 1 rosh with you getting the last hit


I don't think Rosh is "in the jungle." But nice try

If you're not in lane, you're in the jungle

gg no re
Moderator
wcLLg
Profile Joined December 2011
United States281 Posts
September 15 2012 11:41 GMT
#3718
wat
11110000011111000
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
September 15 2012 14:27 GMT
#3719
Jungling = farming enemies that aren't creeps, that's what he meant

Roshan may not be in the jungle but he's the ultimate farm
wcLLg
Profile Joined December 2011
United States281 Posts
September 15 2012 15:32 GMT
#3720
wat. i know that and jungling refers to one thing and one thing only: farming neutrals in the jungle. all i asked was how to get the fastest midas and what the time you would get it at if you only jungled (i.e. no fb tho last game i played i got fb from the jungle, no towers, no kills in general). I looked up a guide on youtube but I wasn't looking for a guide for a basic build. I was looking for the 'fastest' possible midas.
11110000011111000
Prev 1 184 185 186 187 188 1254 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#52
TKL 2182
RotterdaM1028
SteadfastSC255
IndyStarCraft 176
BRAT_OK 102
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 2182
RotterdaM 1028
SteadfastSC 255
MaxPax 222
IndyStarCraft 176
elazer 141
BRAT_OK 102
Livibee 19
EmSc Tv 13
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2179
Rock 15
NaDa 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 7
KwarK 5
Dota 2
qojqva2033
monkeys_forever430
League of Legends
JimRising 285
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2127
edward139
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu502
Other Games
Grubby6878
Liquid`RaSZi2190
C9.Mang0217
Pyrionflax191
KnowMe181
UpATreeSC83
Trikslyr61
ToD35
ZombieGrub34
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL1077
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 13
EmSc2Tv 13
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 201
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 19
• Eskiya23 16
• FirePhoenix8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota249
Other Games
• imaqtpie1929
• Shiphtur344
• WagamamaTV298
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 22m
The PondCast
13h 22m
Kung Fu Cup
14h 22m
WardiTV Qualifier
17h 22m
GSL
1d 12h
Cure vs sOs
SHIN vs ByuN
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Classic vs Solar
GuMiho vs Zoun
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Flash vs Soma
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
5 days
Patches Events
5 days
Universe Titan Cup
6 days
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
2026 GSL S1
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.