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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7032 Posts
September 23 2016 19:40 GMT
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
September 23 2016 19:52 GMT
#2
Not sure what too expect from the team but I'm definitely gonna cheer for them. More likeable than EE's last team
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hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
September 24 2016 16:09 GMT
#3
Flairs up! o wait... =[
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
September 25 2016 08:51 GMT
#4
woo we have a thread

can't wait for flair
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
September 25 2016 16:33 GMT
#5
Nice
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
September 26 2016 02:29 GMT
#6
early game has looked good so far, definitely outclassing the competition there

midgame has been very shaky considering the caliber of competition they're playing

infamous tomorrow should be a decent series
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
September 27 2016 14:09 GMT
#7
need NP flair asap
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
September 27 2016 15:47 GMT
#8
They own the early game because they always do that lvl 6 rotation with EE or Aui (whoever breaks towers and is not busy hitting creeps) into objectives in which so far i don't think anybody contested whenever they do that maneuver.

We'll see if they are contested or behind if they can still pull off standard stuff.
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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
October 01 2016 03:58 GMT
#9
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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
October 01 2016 04:01 GMT
#10
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nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
October 01 2016 04:14 GMT
#11
😂😂😂 what a joke of a team
fdl stepped it up in game 5 though
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
October 01 2016 18:46 GMT
#12
Newly formed team, one person new position, I wouldn't shit on them too hard yet. Plenty of time to iron out the kinks.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
October 02 2016 07:43 GMT
#13
no chance this team makes ti
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
October 02 2016 07:44 GMT
#14
On October 02 2016 16:43 nVme wrote:
no chance this team makes ti


if they do i will buy a ticket to attend the next TI and cheer them till they get eliminated
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
October 12 2016 00:49 GMT
#15
Less than 24 hours until next NP game, woo

Hopefully some time to practice has made them a bit more consistent, I still don't doubt their potential
bumwithagun
Profile Joined January 2011
United States153 Posts
October 12 2016 02:44 GMT
#16
this team probably could be good if Aui was replaced by a pubstar
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
October 17 2016 04:17 GMT
#17
we better not lose to coL boys

it's gonna be sad if NP are denied another LAN because they lose a finals to a team they should be way better than
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
October 18 2016 03:11 GMT
#18
1st LAN HYPE
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
October 18 2016 03:22 GMT
#19
Congrats to NP!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
October 18 2016 03:54 GMT
#20


Spirit of c9 lives on
common_cider
Profile Joined July 2011
342 Posts
October 18 2016 04:16 GMT
#21
ty swindle for crowding the medusa all game
Never eat at a chinese restraunt located by the pound
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
October 19 2016 22:23 GMT
#22
We're still figuring out our drafts and the individual performances are still inconsistent but games have been fun.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
October 19 2016 23:21 GMT
#23
when's the last time MSS/SVG/1437 were at a lan?

I'm less concern about the talent and more so the LAN pressure. Aui/EE have won enough big LANs that it's no big deal for them but the other 3 really haven't had as much big stage experience
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
October 20 2016 01:32 GMT
#24
On October 20 2016 08:21 hariooo wrote:
when's the last time MSS/SVG/1437 were at a lan?

I'm less concern about the talent and more so the LAN pressure. Aui/EE have won enough big LANs that it's no big deal for them but the other 3 really haven't had as much big stage experience


I don't think SVG was ever at a LAN.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-20 02:18:54
October 20 2016 02:18 GMT
#25
On October 20 2016 10:32 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 08:21 hariooo wrote:
when's the last time MSS/SVG/1437 were at a lan?

I'm less concern about the talent and more so the LAN pressure. Aui/EE have won enough big LANs that it's no big deal for them but the other 3 really haven't had as much big stage experience


I don't think SVG was ever at a LAN.

He was at the Frankfurt major

Mss/1437/SVG were all on c9
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
October 20 2016 02:30 GMT
#26
he was around EG for a few tournaments, not the same as playing but might count for something
common_cider
Profile Joined July 2011
342 Posts
October 21 2016 21:40 GMT
#27
They should be allowed to plan in Brazil Lan from home. This is BS
Never eat at a chinese restraunt located by the pound
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
October 21 2016 22:34 GMT
#28
On October 22 2016 06:40 common_cider wrote:
They should be allowed to plan in Brazil Lan from home. This is BS


What happened?
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
October 21 2016 22:50 GMT
#29
I believe he's referring to the NA teams (which had NP players) not being able to go to WESG due to issues with the Brazilian embassies.

But not sure if they even wanted to go after the major dates got announced. The quals are already next week and they wouldn't be playing with their own team at WESG if they were to play it.
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-21 23:58:07
October 21 2016 23:57 GMT
#30
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11044 Posts
October 25 2016 00:53 GMT
#31
On October 22 2016 08:57 Laertes wrote:
We honestly deserve it for spying on them the way we did. Just another casualty of the Snowden shitstorm(not that it was a bad thing). Relations should smooth in less than one hundred years.

Edit: 3154 memes anyone?


Meh. Usual south american it was the great evil Americans to distract from problems of local creation.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
October 25 2016 04:13 GMT
#32
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 25 2016 04:16 GMT
#33
Leave US politics in the US politics discussion thread.
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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
October 25 2016 13:42 GMT
#34
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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
October 29 2016 19:18 GMT
#35
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-30 00:13:15
October 30 2016 00:12 GMT
#36
On October 25 2016 13:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Leave US politics in the US politics discussion thread.


as if what's being talked about concerns only the United States

its funny that the naga flair guy said that the problems are from local creation when it's official that the US helped install a multitude of dictatorships in South America

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20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
October 30 2016 01:07 GMT
#37
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broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
October 30 2016 23:08 GMT
#38
M A J O R B O Y S
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
October 30 2016 23:10 GMT
#39
TOP3 NA confirmed
Really happy for EE, he's at a major and Puppey isn't :O
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
October 31 2016 04:13 GMT
#40
https://www.instagram.com/p/BMNpyOODXj2/
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TurboNash
Profile Joined August 2015
36 Posts
October 31 2016 06:57 GMT
#41
Oh wow they made it to Boston Major. I couldn't believe it. I thought EE+ friends gonna disappoint fans as usual.
t3rm1nal
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy37 Posts
October 31 2016 10:31 GMT
#42
imho this team will crush against tier1 team
Aro.Abbestia.
korendir
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore259 Posts
October 31 2016 11:51 GMT
#43
On October 31 2016 08:10 LemOn wrote:
TOP3 NA confirmed
Really happy for EE, he's at a major and Puppey isn't :O


Justice perhaps.

They seem pretty strong throughout, let's see how they perform in the actual majors.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 31 2016 12:48 GMT
#44
On October 31 2016 15:57 TurboNash wrote:
Oh wow they made it to Boston Major. I couldn't believe it. I thought EE+ friends gonna disappoint fans as usual.

I mean it's the Americas qualifier... Doesn't mean anything when the only two really good teams in the region are directly invited.

But because I'm a foolish optimist I think they might do pretty well at Boston.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
October 31 2016 13:29 GMT
#45
They seem to be playing in every event they can, interesting to see how they develop. I wonder if some team will drop out from the Northern Arena LAN, NP would probably get in if that is the case for that too. But anyway there's Elimination Mode, ESL Genting and Dotapit quals, Dreamleague and Summit coming up before the major. Dreamleague LAN seems somewhat unlikely given that they are 3-5 atm and playing with a ping disadvantage every game but we'll see.

Also tfw goody is posting with an EG flair
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-31 16:26:19
October 31 2016 15:41 GMT
#46
Also tfw goody is posting with an EG flair


dude i like rtz and there's no NP flair it's pretty ez decision xD


On October 31 2016 15:57 TurboNash wrote:
Oh wow they made it to Boston Major. I couldn't believe it. I thought EE+ friends gonna disappoint fans as usual.

i wouldn't be surprised if they perform just averagely(honestly this is what i expect below or average performance but hey it's gonna be glorious if they exceed expectations ) though they look well-oiled as of the moment
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Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
October 31 2016 15:51 GMT
#47
On November 01 2016 00:41 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Also tfw goody is posting with an EG flair


dude i like rtz and there's no NP flair it's pretty ez decision xD


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On October 31 2016 15:57 TurboNash wrote:
Oh wow they made it to Boston Major. I couldn't believe it. I thought EE+ friends gonna disappoint fans as usual.

i wouldn't be surprised if they perform just averagely to be honest though they look well-oiled as of the moment


I wonder how valve is going to do the seeding. Single elim BO3 is an absolutely horrible format, and even a legit top 4 team can pretty much lose in the first round if they get an unfavorable seeding. For example if Team Faceless get seeded as 14 and EG is seeded as 3 due to their TI standing, then there is a very real chance that Faceless gets eliminated in the first round due to facing EG. Assuming NP gets seeded in the bottom 4 due to being NA qualifiers, there is a very real possibility that they could be eliminated in the first round by someone like Wings/EG.
Envy fan since NTH.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
October 31 2016 16:00 GMT
#48
Isn't there a group stage before the single elim playoffs for seeding purposes?
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-31 16:55:43
October 31 2016 16:54 GMT
#49
On November 01 2016 00:51 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 00:41 goody153 wrote:
Also tfw goody is posting with an EG flair


dude i like rtz and there's no NP flair it's pretty ez decision xD


On October 31 2016 15:57 TurboNash wrote:
Oh wow they made it to Boston Major. I couldn't believe it. I thought EE+ friends gonna disappoint fans as usual.

i wouldn't be surprised if they perform just averagely to be honest though they look well-oiled as of the moment


I wonder how valve is going to do the seeding. Single elim BO3 is an absolutely horrible format, and even a legit top 4 team can pretty much lose in the first round if they get an unfavorable seeding. For example if Team Faceless get seeded as 14 and EG is seeded as 3 due to their TI standing, then there is a very real chance that Faceless gets eliminated in the first round due to facing EG. Assuming NP gets seeded in the bottom 4 due to being NA qualifiers, there is a very real possibility that they could be eliminated in the first round by someone like Wings/EG.

There will be a group stage. text from the official announcement:
Seeding for the Main Event bracket will be determined by the results of Group Stage play on December 3 – 4.
So it's not Valve choosing the seeds.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
October 31 2016 17:20 GMT
#50
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Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
November 01 2016 10:11 GMT
#51
NP vs. DC get hyyyyyype
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
November 01 2016 10:15 GMT
#52
That's elimination mode though. There's likely going to be NP vs EG in Dotapit quals pretty soon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
November 01 2016 10:21 GMT
#53
pretty sure NP's gonna get smashed by DC and EG lol ok maybe there's a chance against DC we don't know how good they are since the last game they played was TI6 but NP likely gonna get destroyed by either team
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
November 01 2016 21:54 GMT
#54
On November 01 2016 19:21 goody153 wrote:
pretty sure NP's gonna get smashed by DC and EG lol ok maybe there's a chance against DC we don't know how good they are since the last game they played was TI6 but NP likely gonna get destroyed by either team

NP is going to win 100%. Where is your faith?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
November 01 2016 22:16 GMT
#55
On November 02 2016 06:54 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 19:21 goody153 wrote:
pretty sure NP's gonna get smashed by DC and EG lol ok maybe there's a chance against DC we don't know how good they are since the last game they played was TI6 but NP likely gonna get destroyed by either team

NP is going to win 100%. Where is your faith?


Goody pretends to be a pessimist so that he can always be pleasantly surprised.

The worst days was the pre-TI5 c9. I hated rooting for them and they might have been harder to cheer for than secret 4.5 lol.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
November 01 2016 22:50 GMT
#56
But surely nobody will be surprised when NP win all events this year? It's what anyone with sense expects.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-02 02:34:07
November 02 2016 01:12 GMT
#57
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broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
November 02 2016 03:28 GMT
#58
On November 02 2016 10:12 Laertes wrote:
NP rolls over DC. I for one am pissed that they decided to add an N to Moo.

Edit: They're just out of practice. Give them 2 months and they'll be competitive, I guarantee it.

I think they're at a particularly low point now given they're out of practice but I also don't think they'll have another run as good as TI6. My guess is that they'll be around top 8 in the world and could potentially be outperformed by NP at some point.
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
November 02 2016 03:32 GMT
#59
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-02 04:12:03
November 02 2016 04:10 GMT
#60
On November 02 2016 06:54 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 19:21 goody153 wrote:
pretty sure NP's gonna get smashed by DC and EG lol ok maybe there's a chance against DC we don't know how good they are since the last game they played was TI6 but NP likely gonna get destroyed by either team

NP is going to win 100%. Where is your faith?



On November 02 2016 07:16 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2016 06:54 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On November 01 2016 19:21 goody153 wrote:
pretty sure NP's gonna get smashed by DC and EG lol ok maybe there's a chance against DC we don't know how good they are since the last game they played was TI6 but NP likely gonna get destroyed by either team

NP is going to win 100%. Where is your faith?


Goody pretends to be a pessimist so that he can always be pleasantly surprised.

The worst days was the pre-TI5 c9. I hated rooting for them and they might have been harder to cheer for than secret 4.5 lol.

Nah dude i really don't have high faith in them right now it's like i expected them to win against random NA teams but not against the best ones or the best or EU/CN/SEA. Maybe later on after some more proven victories over tougher opponents. We'll see

oh hey they won against DC just checked the results good stuff. i'd attribute it to NP being well-oiled by previous confidence boosting victories and scrimming/official while DC haven't played a single official and probably haven't practiced that much.
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Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
November 02 2016 04:11 GMT
#61
Where's my NP flair
hell is other people
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
November 05 2016 15:37 GMT
#62
So the boys play two series simultaneosly in 5 hours (Dotapit and Elimination Mode) and ESL qualifier in 6 hours? Wonder how that is going to work out
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
November 05 2016 18:15 GMT
#63
No problem. They're going to win all games in <10 minutes thus squeezing it into their schedule.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
November 07 2016 22:03 GMT
#64
It's fascinating to me how many of the posts here flame envy for each poor performance but rarely commend the team for a strong performance
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
November 07 2016 23:06 GMT
#65
They only played na teams so far, no need to commend them as of yet. I mean come on, everyone can beat col or fdl, or some peruvian team. When they also do well against eu, sea and china, that would be a diffrent story. We will see though.
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
November 08 2016 03:53 GMT
#66
On November 08 2016 08:06 hunter_x wrote:
They only played na teams so far, no need to commend them as of yet. I mean come on, everyone can beat col or fdl, or some peruvian team. When they also do well against eu, sea and china, that would be a diffrent story. We will see though.

they are holding their own against EG, I think that's commendable...
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
November 10 2016 21:12 GMT
#67
Flair up, Boys!
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
November 10 2016 21:33 GMT
#68
My LD flair > reddit flairs
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-10 21:41:50
November 10 2016 21:39 GMT
#69
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-10 21:41:21
November 10 2016 21:40 GMT
#70
On November 11 2016 06:39 Laertes wrote:
Did they beat Ad Finem?

Affirmative
note how liquipedia has up-to-date results
and the op of the tournament thread has a liquipedia embed
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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
November 10 2016 21:42 GMT
#71
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 10 2016 21:42 GMT
#72
ad finem are really not a good dota team
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Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-10 22:18:00
November 10 2016 22:16 GMT
#73
MSS is looking so damned good on this team.

Also, we finally got our NP flairs :D

Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-10 23:54:44
November 10 2016 23:54 GMT
#74
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 11 2016 00:32 GMT
#75
On November 11 2016 08:54 Laertes wrote:
They're the best team in Europe.

This is vastly inaccurate
On November 11 2016 08:54 Laertes wrote:
So I guess Europe is trash tier suddenly.

this is less so
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-11 07:14:50
November 11 2016 07:14 GMT
#76
nice flairs are up
On November 11 2016 09:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2016 08:54 Laertes wrote:
They're the best team in Europe.

This is vastly inaccurate
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2016 08:54 Laertes wrote:
So I guess Europe is trash tier suddenly.

this is less so

Yeah OG or VP prolly ?
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reDicE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1020 Posts
November 12 2016 23:51 GMT
#77
Why's the NP signature so blurry?
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
November 13 2016 04:12 GMT
#78
Go, go Envy-chan.
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
November 13 2016 16:04 GMT
#79
On November 11 2016 08:54 Laertes wrote:
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On November 11 2016 06:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
ad finem are really not a good dota team


They're the best team in Europe. So I guess Europe is trash tier suddenly.


best team in europe is virtus pro
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-13 16:18:07
November 13 2016 16:16 GMT
#80
i know they already did better than expected and i'm reasonably certain that wings is gonna dumpster them but just like MSS said "i hope that envy got some shit figured out" for the finals lol
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
November 13 2016 16:20 GMT
#81
On November 14 2016 01:16 goody153 wrote:
i know they already did better than expected and i'm reasonably certain that wings is gonna dumpster them but just like MSS said "i hope that envy got some shit figured out" for the finals lol


They're probably gonna lose but i wouldnt bet on them being dumpstered like they were in their first games against Wings
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-13 17:12:41
November 13 2016 16:49 GMT
#82
On November 14 2016 01:20 Alpino wrote:
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On November 14 2016 01:16 goody153 wrote:
i know they already did better than expected and i'm reasonably certain that wings is gonna dumpster them but just like MSS said "i hope that envy got some shit figured out" for the finals lol


They're probably gonna lose but i wouldnt bet on them being dumpstered like they were in their first games against Wings

yeah dumpster might be a too strong word maybe win a really tough game at least once then get stomped on the rest

edit:



alright lol
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 13 2016 19:15 GMT
#83
Hope they do the no ban strat
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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
November 13 2016 23:05 GMT
#84
Well they did the throw after a 20k lead strat;)
Honestly wings is just too good, dont think anyone else would have beat them.
atmankulkarni
Profile Joined October 2016
India109 Posts
November 13 2016 23:34 GMT
#85
& NP will have to face Wings again to start their Summit 6.
"Hakuna Matata"
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
November 14 2016 01:01 GMT
#86
Still a great showing by NP.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
November 14 2016 02:23 GMT
#87
kinda sad they got 2nd because of the memes but a really good effort regardless. would love to see them beat wings at summit

NP for top 8 major woo
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
November 29 2016 07:41 GMT
#88


lol
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
November 29 2016 12:22 GMT
#89
NP weaknesses:
Envy - Roshan
Aui - Ancients
MSS - Cake
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
December 05 2016 14:37 GMT
#90
So NP got the easy half of the bracket. EHOME is still a tough challenge, and LGD too, but it's a lot better than it could have been. They can definitely reach the final if they pick up their game a little.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-05 15:40:39
December 05 2016 15:32 GMT
#91
NP got a good history against ehome (it would be a really shitty time to suddenly lose that streak against them)

there's a good chance that they will at least get to semi's then probably lose to newbee

(or you know they completely flop out so we'll see)
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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
December 05 2016 15:54 GMT
#92
On December 06 2016 00:32 goody153 wrote:
NP got a good history against ehome (it would be a really shitty time to suddenly lose that streak against them)

there's a good chance that they will at least get to semi's then probably lose to newbee

(or you know they completely flop out so we'll see)


honestly they got the best possible draw (they have a great record against DC too). have faith goody
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
December 05 2016 16:11 GMT
#93
Anything can happen im just glad we got a good bracket. NP fighting!
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
December 05 2016 17:28 GMT
#94
Yeah I mean it's Cloud 9 NP, you never know what to expect. Wouldn't surprise me if they went out first round, wouldn't surprise me too much if they got to the semis or even the final. Winning it is another matter though - that would be a real shocker.
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Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
December 05 2016 22:06 GMT
#95
I remember the last time I thought we had the best possible draw and it was vs CDEC at TI5 :/
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
December 08 2016 23:45 GMT
#96
They did it! Yay!

Good chance against DC too I think.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 01:34:53
December 09 2016 01:07 GMT
#97
alright they just need to tilt and beat DC again then lose to newbee then all is good as predicted ok i just realized newbee got eliminated

ok so i guess there might be a chance they'll get to the grand finals
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11044 Posts
December 09 2016 02:00 GMT
#98
Don't hope to much...

but it's a good bracket to go full c9.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
December 09 2016 02:14 GMT
#99
well the chances are better with newbee out (assuming they still do well against DC) but yeah they could still totally flop out .. i mean it's just on paper prediction
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yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
December 09 2016 03:36 GMT
#100
Good chances against DC. Feel like they'll lose vs AF but beat LFY in typical fashion.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
December 09 2016 05:03 GMT
#101
I still don't like NP style. They seem to rely on cheeky drafts or draft wins rather than outplaying their opponents. Carry centaur, naga, omni, tb etc. It shows a lack of skill. It is not wrong though as it also shows strategic competence, but I never liked teams that played this way.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11044 Posts
December 09 2016 23:03 GMT
#102
So uh major disappointment ?
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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
December 09 2016 23:09 GMT
#103
On December 10 2016 08:03 Sabu113 wrote:
So uh major disappointment ?


idk what others thought, but most didn't expect NP to do that well. Top 8 is fine with me given how recently this team was formed. Really shitty way to go out, but DC is a quality team
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
December 09 2016 23:12 GMT
#104
On December 10 2016 08:03 Sabu113 wrote:
So uh major disappointment ?

Huh? Top8 seems solid to me from the worst region, leaving great teams behind, Liquid wasn't even thwre- DC is on fire since they stopped being lazy fucks
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
December 10 2016 02:51 GMT
#105
what an awful time to suddenly break their winstreak against DC but oh well

DC is a good team so it;s w/e
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-10 13:02:42
December 10 2016 09:18 GMT
#106
Imo NP beat the teams that they were expected to beat in MVP and EHOME. Losses against VP and Newbee were somewhat expected though I guess one could have hoped for a bit closer series. And DC hasn't lost a game yet this event, they seem to have found their groove just in time. I slept through the games but from watching the highlights it seems that DC had a good time in lanes both games and it just snowballed hard.

In general imo 5th-8th placing is a pretty good and realistic finish, higher than that would have required them to rise to the occasion. And if they got more unlucky with the bracket on round 1 they could have been in trouble. But I think the way they lost the series they did lose was a bit disappointing for them.
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
December 14 2016 04:40 GMT
#107
I think losing to DC is a pretty big disappointment, but it happens

Really really really hoping they don't make roster changes. If NP.BuLba is a thing I'm finding a new team to support lol
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
January 27 2017 03:11 GMT
#108
https://dotablast.com/bone7-interview-coaching-team-np/

Bone-chan Interview
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uwahwah89
Profile Joined May 2015
Indonesia158 Posts
February 02 2017 06:30 GMT
#109
What happen if NP vs Col ended up 1-1 ?
Go go liquid wiki
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-02 10:52:05
February 02 2017 10:51 GMT
#110
On February 02 2017 15:30 uwahwah89 wrote:
What happen if NP vs Col ended up 1-1 ?

Tiebreaker between DC and NP cause they both will have the same score(also having the same position)and there's only one slot so NP has to 2-0 coL
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The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
February 04 2017 21:28 GMT
#111
QUESTION: Why did 1437 change his name to Rose? Is it a reference or something? Any help would be appreciated. I'm just curious what it means.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
February 05 2017 01:12 GMT
#112
On February 05 2017 06:28 The Binary Son wrote:
QUESTION: Why did 1437 change his name to Rose? Is it a reference or something? Any help would be appreciated. I'm just curious what it means.

prolly because of his new hair ? idk
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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-05 01:52:14
February 05 2017 01:49 GMT
#113
On February 05 2017 06:28 The Binary Son wrote:
QUESTION: Why did 1437 change his name to Rose? Is it a reference or something? Any help would be appreciated. I'm just curious what it means.

They did a interview with him at some tournament, cant remember which one. I think he said he just liked how the name sounds.

Edit: found it

The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
February 05 2017 02:20 GMT
#114
On February 05 2017 10:49 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2017 06:28 The Binary Son wrote:
QUESTION: Why did 1437 change his name to Rose? Is it a reference or something? Any help would be appreciated. I'm just curious what it means.

They did a interview with him at some tournament, cant remember which one. I think he said he just liked how the name sounds.

Edit: found it

https://youtu.be/1oeJ0YBSyYI


cool - thanks!
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
February 14 2017 14:48 GMT
#115
How does everyone feel about the team right now? I feel they're fairly stable (surprisingly) but I don't know how much room there is for growth or shock results. They're a good team, I just don't see them ever winning a serious tournament.
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Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-14 15:49:28
February 14 2017 15:46 GMT
#116
On February 14 2017 23:48 FuzzyJAM wrote:
How does everyone feel about the team right now? I feel they're fairly stable (surprisingly) but I don't know how much room there is for growth or shock results. They're a good team, I just don't see them ever winning a serious tournament.


I think there is a hard ceiling because Envy's mid is not as good as his carry, and none of the players are actual superstar material like Arteezy, Zai or Miracle (though you can make a case for Aui as a TI winner, it was in a different role). Their drafting is what defines their games overall because they don't have the firepower to beat better teams when/if the drafting phase doesnt go well for them. I don't really think Envy is a PPD level drafter to be able to out draft tier 1 captains it in a consistent fashion. However they can definitely make a deep run in tournaments, especially if they get a few good drafts in the crucial matches.
Envy fan since NTH.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-14 15:57:05
February 14 2017 15:51 GMT
#117
I'm hoping bone7 can help them improve their drafting a lot. I felt like their drafts vs DC in DAC qualifier finals were much better than in previous matches against DC.

I'm of the opinion that while their early game is a bit hit-or-miss (partially due to draft), their ability to play the mid and late game is very consistent and strong compared to the opposition they've seen in NA. How that holds up on the international stage isn't entirely clear but with the right drafts I see no reason for them not to make serious runs in tournaments. With the wrong drafts, they seem to get steamrolled early and/or play the game into an endgame they cannot win
On February 15 2017 00:46 Piledriver wrote:
I think there is a hard ceiling because [...]

If AF can come second at a major i'm not worried
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-14 16:13:12
February 14 2017 16:10 GMT
#118
Draft wise it feels like after bone7 joined they've started picking a bit more towards having heroes that can move and kill early, though not sure if that's his influence. Might also be partly just the patch given that we don't see Warlock and stuff as much anymore for other teams either. But at this point my expectation for them isn't that different from what they did before on LAN. Outside of the bo1 win against EG at Northern Arena they basically lost to some of the better teams like EG, Newbee, VP, Wings and won pretty much every series where the other team wasn't a favorite against NP.

The win against DC was a good start and maybe one could say that they looked a bit more convincing in their recent quals than they did in the past, but we'll see how it goes against different teams on LAN. Inb4 b7 follows the team to the stage at Kiev and NP picks LC Pugna Undying Bloodseeker
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
February 14 2017 22:51 GMT
#119
Support Tinker. Never forget.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
February 15 2017 03:35 GMT
#120
Yeah they have a consistent mid-lategame but they always get rolled early-midgame in important matches or just have not good draft

apparently bone7 still stuck in romania

On February 15 2017 07:51 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Support Tinker. Never forget.

That was pie draft man
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Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
February 15 2017 03:46 GMT
#121


Hot tub interview.
Envy fan since NTH.
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
February 15 2017 06:48 GMT
#122
Great interview, I enjoyed it very much. I also wish NA has more than 1 slot for qualifiers as well.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
February 15 2017 11:10 GMT
#123
Envy and Aui putting the hot in hot tub.

SA qualifiers could indeed be super weird.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
March 01 2017 05:57 GMT
#124
when are their next games ? or are we never seeing them play again or what
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Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
March 01 2017 07:44 GMT
#125
End of march in DAC
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
March 01 2017 08:31 GMT
#126
Kiev Major qualifiers are before that. The main quals start in 9 days.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
March 01 2017 10:10 GMT
#127
oh ok tnx
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 13 2017 15:43 GMT
#128
need some spirit bombs today or something
NP should be much better than the opposition but yesterday looked quite shaky vs Freedom and just some bad losses to coL
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11044 Posts
March 18 2017 07:13 GMT
#129
NP not going to Kiev?
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shouldbeworking
Profile Joined October 2014
946 Posts
March 18 2017 07:51 GMT
#130
They got Abed Meepoed. Awful drafting by NP
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
March 18 2017 10:26 GMT
#131
On March 18 2017 16:13 Sabu113 wrote:
NP not going to Kiev?

got rekt by coL and onyx at the playoffs

bad timing for them to play not good enough as usual for NA quals
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nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-18 15:19:45
March 18 2017 15:17 GMT
#132
On March 18 2017 16:13 Sabu113 wrote:
NP not going to Kiev?


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TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
March 29 2017 14:26 GMT
#133
NP now has to go to BO1 gamble in DAC. Will EE deliver?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-29 15:13:40
March 29 2017 15:06 GMT
#134
No Bo1s actually. Every match in the LB is Bo3. nvm i've been lied to

It's still incredibly disappointing that they couldn't even take a game off of newbee to finish top 2, which would have been the equivalent of AT LEAST winning 2 full series plus given them a cushion to lose one.
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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
March 29 2017 15:11 GMT
#135
On March 30 2017 00:06 Sn0_Man wrote:
No Bo1s actually. Every match in the LB is Bo3.

It's still incredibly disappointing that they couldn't even take a game off of newbee to finish top 2, which would have been the equivalent of AT LEAST winning 2 full series plus given them a cushion to lose one.


PGL guy on reddit said bo1.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 29 2017 15:13 GMT
#136
I appear to be incorrect good call
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
April 01 2017 13:16 GMT
#137
Damn, one game from being in Upper Bracket into last place finish.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
April 01 2017 23:21 GMT
#138
On April 01 2017 22:16 the bear jew wrote:
Damn, one game from being in Upper Bracket into last place finish.


damn sccc ember, we held our heads high though we played good dota im proud
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Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
April 06 2017 22:55 GMT
#139

Rose+SVG kicked
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-06 23:37:48
April 06 2017 23:22 GMT
#140
Envy should kick himself, before he lets SVG go. That guy is the best player in the team (together with mss). What about this "im gonna have a team with good friends" bullshit? What a fraud...
uwahwah89
Profile Joined May 2015
Indonesia158 Posts
April 07 2017 01:00 GMT
#141
They not qualified in Kiev tho, so this is a good opprtunity to establish new team synergy before TI kick in
Go go liquid wiki
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
April 07 2017 11:36 GMT
#142
On April 07 2017 08:22 hunter_x wrote:
Envy should kick himself, before he lets SVG go. That guy is the best player in the team (together with mss). What about this "im gonna have a team with good friends" bullshit? What a fraud...

lmao, we got global shit talker here. Thought you only troll in Alliance's Thread.
And i think even Envy does some random shit, he is still better than kky now. (as a player or as a captain)
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
April 07 2017 16:29 GMT
#143
What a To Be Continued moment for team anime.

I guess that crushing exit from DAC will be the interlude.
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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-07 22:47:28
April 07 2017 22:21 GMT
#144
On April 07 2017 20:36 jack_knife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 08:22 hunter_x wrote:
Envy should kick himself, before he lets SVG go. That guy is the best player in the team (together with mss). What about this "im gonna have a team with good friends" bullshit? What a fraud...

lmao, we got global shit talker here. Thought you only troll in Alliance's Thread.
And i think even Envy does some random shit, he is still better than kky now. (as a player or as a captain)

sometimes its really hard, i have to remind myself to not feed the troll...
i really think that svg is together with mss the best player of np. envy does so much stupid and random shit, it costs np games. Not always but often when it counts. envy better then kky as a player and captain? thats like saying loda is not bald, just because hes wearing his cap...
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
April 07 2017 22:45 GMT
#145
On April 07 2017 20:36 jack_knife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 08:22 hunter_x wrote:
Envy should kick himself, before he lets SVG go. That guy is the best player in the team (together with mss). What about this "im gonna have a team with good friends" bullshit? What a fraud...

lmao, we got global shit talker here. Thought you only troll in Alliance's Thread.
And i think even Envy does some random shit, he is still better than kky now. (as a player or as a captain)

lol
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
April 08 2017 01:38 GMT
#146
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shouldbeworking
Profile Joined October 2014
946 Posts
April 08 2017 02:11 GMT
#147
Money changes people and there is millions of dollars to be made. The power of friendship is no match for the power of greed. Look at Alchemist. Shit hero, but gold is all he needs to be drafted.

Not many teams left that survive on the power of friendship.
jinfreaks
Profile Joined July 2010
United States94 Posts
April 08 2017 04:59 GMT
#148
At the end of the day, this is EE's team, he can do whatever he wants with it. Since, more than likely, he is the majority stakeholder
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
April 08 2017 18:05 GMT
#149
On April 08 2017 07:21 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 20:36 jack_knife wrote:
On April 07 2017 08:22 hunter_x wrote:
Envy should kick himself, before he lets SVG go. That guy is the best player in the team (together with mss). What about this "im gonna have a team with good friends" bullshit? What a fraud...

lmao, we got global shit talker here. Thought you only troll in Alliance's Thread.
And i think even Envy does some random shit, he is still better than kky now. (as a player or as a captain)

sometimes its really hard, i have to remind myself to not feed the troll...
i really think that svg is together with mss the best player of np. envy does so much stupid and random shit, it costs np games. Not always but often when it counts. envy better then kky as a player and captain? thats like saying loda is not bald, just because hes wearing his cap...

because am not big fan of loda, so u can say whatever you want about his hair. EE indeed do some random shit, but he still has that level, he still won a major without a 9k stack team, he still qualified dac over col and dc with a tier2 team. kky won 2 premier events after he killed team secret. hit and miss (play and ban/pick) in every tournament. his prime time was a about ages ago. you can keep saying kky is the best player, dreaming about this 9k stack team winning a major. but i bet there will be another role change after kiev or before TI. i don't think when miracle can play like this(60% of his best) in every tournament.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-08 18:25:24
April 08 2017 18:21 GMT
#150
On April 09 2017 03:05 jack_knife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2017 07:21 hunter_x wrote:
On April 07 2017 20:36 jack_knife wrote:
On April 07 2017 08:22 hunter_x wrote:
Envy should kick himself, before he lets SVG go. That guy is the best player in the team (together with mss). What about this "im gonna have a team with good friends" bullshit? What a fraud...

lmao, we got global shit talker here. Thought you only troll in Alliance's Thread.
And i think even Envy does some random shit, he is still better than kky now. (as a player or as a captain)

sometimes its really hard, i have to remind myself to not feed the troll...
i really think that svg is together with mss the best player of np. envy does so much stupid and random shit, it costs np games. Not always but often when it counts. envy better then kky as a player and captain? thats like saying loda is not bald, just because hes wearing his cap...

because am not big fan of loda, so u can say whatever you want about his hair. EE indeed do some random shit, but he still has that level, he still won a major without a 9k stack team, he still qualified dac over col and dc with a tier2 team. kky won 2 premier events after he killed team secret. hit and miss (play and ban/pick) in every tournament. his prime time was a about ages ago. you can keep saying kky is the best player, dreaming about this 9k stack team winning a major. but i bet there will be another role change after kiev or before TI. i don't think when miracle can play like this(60% of his best) in every tournament.

lol, i need to stop replying to you. You really have some mental issues...
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
April 08 2017 20:07 GMT
#151
On April 09 2017 03:21 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2017 03:05 jack_knife wrote:
On April 08 2017 07:21 hunter_x wrote:
On April 07 2017 20:36 jack_knife wrote:
On April 07 2017 08:22 hunter_x wrote:
Envy should kick himself, before he lets SVG go. That guy is the best player in the team (together with mss). What about this "im gonna have a team with good friends" bullshit? What a fraud...

lmao, we got global shit talker here. Thought you only troll in Alliance's Thread.
And i think even Envy does some random shit, he is still better than kky now. (as a player or as a captain)

sometimes its really hard, i have to remind myself to not feed the troll...
i really think that svg is together with mss the best player of np. envy does so much stupid and random shit, it costs np games. Not always but often when it counts. envy better then kky as a player and captain? thats like saying loda is not bald, just because hes wearing his cap...

because am not big fan of loda, so u can say whatever you want about his hair. EE indeed do some random shit, but he still has that level, he still won a major without a 9k stack team, he still qualified dac over col and dc with a tier2 team. kky won 2 premier events after he killed team secret. hit and miss (play and ban/pick) in every tournament. his prime time was a about ages ago. you can keep saying kky is the best player, dreaming about this 9k stack team winning a major. but i bet there will be another role change after kiev or before TI. i don't think when miracle can play like this(60% of his best) in every tournament.

lol, i need to stop replying to you. You really have some mental issues...

so , you are mad again xD, mad cuz i said the truth. i thought every shit talker has strong mentality.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 09 2017 02:20 GMT
#152
Hey hunter_x and jack_knife, you both need to chill out and lay off the personal insults please.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
April 09 2017 04:10 GMT
#153
I would say that Aui needs to be kicked. Because envy is a better carry, and aui is not good at #4. Can only play greedy #4, but that time is over.

I would think envy carry, mss mid, bone7 offlane would be pretty neat core. But who else to play support?
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 09 2017 17:14 GMT
#154
I've followed him from Kaipi to Kaipi (hah), and Bone7 has been pretty bad since the first DAC where he basically lost C9 the tournament singlehandedly. I think he's extremely smart, but I don't see him on a top team ever again. And he especially doesn't belong with Envy, who needs some stability in his teammates if he's going to be allowed to go clowny genius.

As for Aui, he can adjust I think. He's smart and hard working.
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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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Last Edited: 2017-04-09 17:31:57
April 09 2017 17:31 GMT
#155
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 09 2017 18:17 GMT
#156
Well it's pretty unlikely Aui will redefine how the game plays. Maybe everyone else is missing something, but probably not. More plausible is Icefrog patching it so Aui's old style is more effective, but that doesn't seem to be the kind of gameplay Icefrog wants.

Aui is almost certainly going to have to be a totally different 4 to what he's shown in the past if NP are to do well.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
April 09 2017 18:24 GMT
#157
On April 10 2017 02:31 Laertes wrote:
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On April 09 2017 13:10 DucK- wrote:
I would say that Aui needs to be kicked. Because envy is a better carry, and aui is not good at #4. Can only play greedy #4, but that time is over.

I would think envy carry, mss mid, bone7 offlane would be pretty neat core. But who else to play support?


Legitimately hate when people say what you just said. What's to stop AUI from completely changing the meta as it stands?


His playstyle as #4 was all about efficiency and greed. That's what made him standout. I'm all for him proving me wrong, but I highly doubt so.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
April 09 2017 19:56 GMT
#158
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 09 2017 20:02 GMT
#159
I'm not saying there are no different ways to play the game. I'm saying nobody is paying anything like Aui used to. If he can bring that back as a viable style it will be a major change. And I see no real reason to imagine he will when nobody else has.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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Last Edited: 2017-04-09 21:26:43
April 09 2017 21:26 GMT
#160
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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
April 09 2017 22:20 GMT
#161
On April 10 2017 06:26 Laertes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 05:02 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I'm not saying there are no different ways to play the game. I'm saying nobody is paying anything like Aui used to. If he can bring that back as a viable style it will be a major change. And I see no real reason to imagine he will when nobody else has.


That seems to me a serious misconception about how things get discovered/get shifted. A lot of people espouse it and I am very confused about why they think that way. No one has done it yet because no one has done it yet, and just because something hasn't been done, doesn't mean it can't be done or won't be done. I honestly see no reason why it wouldn't work; this patch is so narrowly explored and I hope we get to see more and different styles soon.

People have tried greedy 4, but it rarely works out, its hit and miss. The meta right now is very gank and fight heavy, so the roaming 4 is king. Its just more effective, because there is so much agression going on. It can work with the right draft, but its mostly not the best choice, since it can be punished hard.
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Last Edited: 2017-04-10 03:57:47
April 10 2017 03:56 GMT
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broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
April 18 2017 04:19 GMT
#163
I like bOne7 but I really hope he doesn't end up playing for NP, though MSS mid wouldn't be the end of the world
korendir
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore259 Posts
April 18 2017 16:07 GMT
#164
with EE coaching for old DC, is there still a chance of NP reforming or is it gg?
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 18 2017 17:36 GMT
#165
The coaching is just for Kiev, they are building a lineup. I would imagine they already had players in mind when they made the decision to change but it's probably subject to change if teams like EG, Liquid or whoever happen to crumble at Kiev and end up making changes too.
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April 18 2017 18:23 GMT
#166
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Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
April 18 2017 21:09 GMT
#167
So by the way, Bears has collapsed. What are the chances of Fata coming into NP?
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 19 2017 04:02 GMT
#168
On April 19 2017 06:09 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
So by the way, Bears has collapsed. What are the chances of Fata coming into NP?


Hard to say about the likelihood. Fata has played with all of EE, Aui and MSS before. But not sure how he views those times. I really liked the post-TI4 c9 with Fata and Aui in it (not so much the one after Aui and PLD had been booted).

Fata is probably one of those players that might get snagged by another team if some of the western teams going to Kiev happen to disband. But if all of them more or less stick together then him joining NP doesn't seem that unlikely.
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
April 19 2017 15:45 GMT
#169
NP.Fata would be amazing. Fata/pld/aui was my favorite version of c9.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 23 2017 22:10 GMT
#170
Let's hope Secret crash and burn so PLD can return to the fold. Post-TI4 C9 with MSS for Bone7 would actually be pretty good I think.

Not hugely likely if we're honest though.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 04 2017 13:54 GMT
#171
http://npgame.gg/news/np-roster-reveal/

C9 IS BACK
ASDZXCFSDF




Current Dota 2 roster:

Jacky ‘EternaLEnVy’ Mao

Adrian ‘FATA-’ Trinks

Arif ‘MSS’ Anwar

Kurtis ‘Aui_2000’ Ling

Johan ‘pieliedie’ Åström

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PandaRed
Profile Joined June 2016
France58 Posts
May 04 2017 13:59 GMT
#172
NP9
"Everyone must forget the words CARRY/SUPPORT/GANKER, this is all rubbish. If you want to be useful, to win the game, you must play on all heroes, instead of crying like a baby when you have to play carry" - Puppey
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
May 04 2017 14:02 GMT
#173
On April 24 2017 07:10 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Let's hope Secret crash and burn so PLD can return to the fold. Post-TI4 C9 with MSS for Bone7 would actually be pretty good I think.

Not hugely likely if we're honest though.


WE DID IT FAM
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-04 14:11:32
May 04 2017 14:04 GMT
#174


rekt




too bad we are probably only seeing them play like one tournament before the TI qualifiers or whatever
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 04 2017 14:14 GMT
#175
On May 04 2017 23:04 goody153 wrote:
https://twitter.com/MSSDota/status/860130647913967616

rekt




too bad we are probably only seeing them play like one tournament before the TI qualifiers or whatever


They are playing in Epicenter and Summit quals starting in a few days already. Dreamleague is also coming up later this month. So there will be a lot of games even if they fail in those. Manila Masters is the only LAN that is guaranteed for now though
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 04 2017 14:14 GMT
#176
Man EE really refuses to pick up non-ex-c9 players huh
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Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
May 04 2017 14:31 GMT
#177
On May 04 2017 23:14 Sn0_Man wrote:
Man EE really refuses to pick up non-ex-c9 players huh


who's also available and a better option?

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its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
May 04 2017 15:00 GMT
#178
happy for fata
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 04 2017 16:17 GMT
#179
On May 04 2017 23:02 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2017 07:10 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Let's hope Secret crash and burn so PLD can return to the fold. Post-TI4 C9 with MSS for Bone7 would actually be pretty good I think.

Not hugely likely if we're honest though.


WE DID IT FAM

Aww yeah boyyyyy.
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Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
May 06 2017 00:20 GMT
#180
Guess I'm back to watching professional doto now boys. Lets goooooo
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 07 2017 23:35 GMT
#181
Fucking c9 is back. Roaming pos5 Pie, farming visage Aui, but for some reason offlane isn't feeding.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 08 2017 03:55 GMT
#182
The true return of FATA is upon us
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
May 08 2017 03:57 GMT
#183
On May 08 2017 12:55 juuto wrote:
The true return of FATA is upon us


im getting the feeling that FATA is gonna go beastmode
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-08 08:07:34
May 08 2017 06:31 GMT
#184
On May 08 2017 08:35 babysimba wrote:
Fucking c9 is back. Roaming pos5 Pie, farming visage Aui, but for some reason offlane isn't feeding.

hey bone-chan didn't feed in prior to c9 3.0 (jk there was some period where bone-chan was alright)
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-08 13:02:35
May 08 2017 13:02 GMT
#185
On May 08 2017 15:31 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2017 08:35 babysimba wrote:
Fucking c9 is back. Roaming pos5 Pie, farming visage Aui, but for some reason offlane isn't feeding.

hey bone-chan didn't feed in prior to c9 3.0 (jk there was some period where bone-chan was alright)


bone's lows were so low that ppl forget that he wasn't that bad. I mean ppl still think that moon is really good offlaner so I guess memory is a strange thing
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-08 13:33:06
May 08 2017 13:32 GMT
#186
On May 08 2017 22:02 Alpino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2017 15:31 goody153 wrote:
On May 08 2017 08:35 babysimba wrote:
Fucking c9 is back. Roaming pos5 Pie, farming visage Aui, but for some reason offlane isn't feeding.

hey bone-chan didn't feed in prior to c9 3.0 (jk there was some period where bone-chan was alright)


bone's lows were so low that ppl forget that he wasn't that bad. I mean ppl still think that moon is really good offlaner so I guess memory is a strange thing

Moon was good during some parts of playing with DC and also a good part playing with OG but yeah the rest of the teams he was pretty whatever

Oh yeah bone's worst performance was just absolutely shit tier
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-08 22:00:36
May 08 2017 21:57 GMT
#187
alright based on the 4 games they really looked like old C9 with the economical way of playing(envy leaving safelane as soon as he can jungle for whoever support want to farm .. aui camping bottom lane as soon as he could and ending up like almost highest networth .. everybody farming most of the time)

all games stomps (ok maybe not completely game 1 against coL) though it's still not a great gauge since it's not against t1 teams but they looked really good for a new team .. they still need to work with team spellcasting coordination
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 08 2017 22:14 GMT
#188
Yeah, four dominant performances but the competition has been lacking.

Aui wants to play hyper greedy support again which is interesting. It obviously works against mediocre teams but whether top ones wouldn't just crush it idk. Of course, maybe they'd play differently against better teams.
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 08 2017 22:27 GMT
#189
It works when you have Fata.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 09 2017 00:51 GMT
#190
Hope the same old shit doesn't happen. For the past few years, EE drafting like Wings during low stakes games and then pussies out and draft like a stubborn retard during LANs.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 09 2017 02:18 GMT
#191
I see we already had Fata Zeus. Time to watch some vods.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
May 09 2017 02:52 GMT
#192
Gonna say that these first few performances while yeah they weren't against the toughest of competitions showed a coherent team. Few teams are that coherent right out of the gate and ok they had the previous NP base and the previous c9 base so it makes sense that they are coherent from a communication and playstyle point of view but what impressed me is how they drafted with a purpose in this new meta. Seems like they're really trying to play in a way that fits their playstyle as individual players instead of blindly following the meta so if they can make this style of DotA they're trying to pull off work against good teams they'll have a reaaally good range of picks to choose from and they'll truly be a force to be reckoned with.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-09 08:04:07
May 09 2017 06:45 GMT
#193
They've already showcased facing none of the TI quality teams that they could beat them easily(all games have been stomp so far) so i wish the team would have a serious match soon

5/6 games they dove t3's without t3/t2 dropping lol
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-09 08:15:26
May 09 2017 07:37 GMT
#194
Well these NA quals aren't so easy towards the end I think. All of them have just one spot and there's TB, DC (in Summit quals), isGG, coL and all the South American teams. Though TB, DC and coL seem to have started out a bit rocky in the quals but they may improve. If none of the NA teams outside of EG manage to clinch a TI invite in the upcoming LANs, hopefully TI will at least have wildcards so 2 of the teams can try play themselves in. If the TI quals again have just one NA spot (with TB in quals this time) and no wildcard it's a bit lame.

But yea their picks have been pretty fun this far. Feels like their options are far more open in the draft with these players. Fata can play all sorts of mids, but especially they can now pick spellcasting mids better than they could with EE mid. And also Fata should be a bit stronger in lane so they may be able to snowball some games better through that. Fata being mid makes more aggressive support duos easier to pick too. They also have now a bigger threat of some unique picks like Visage, Ench, Chen with Aui on the support. And finally they have a lot of experience playing with Wisp on this team now.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-09 08:24:32
May 09 2017 08:23 GMT
#195
Ugh EU getting most slots again but completely bombing out of TI again.

Fata is definitely the better player than EE playing spellcaster mid though the good thing about this is that NP also has an option to put EE on farming mids.
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 09 2017 08:26 GMT
#196
Yea I'd imagine they do that if they ever pick something like Medusa, Naga or TB and decide that it fits better mid in the game.

But we'll have to see whether they can get through these quals first and then how it goes on LAN. It's looking promising so far but always hard to really say before they face better competition.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-09 08:45:12
May 09 2017 08:34 GMT
#197
They certainly have the synergy, draft ideas and individual skills to back up their potential as we've seen the past 6 games (it felt like they've been playing months together and they've been wrecking faces ) but we'll see how they adapt and how much mental fortitude they have as a team when the losses started rolling(eventually they'll lose to somebody like everybody else) and meta problems start happening.

In the end it's all about figuring out shit and how strong they're mentally like that's what separates current OG over everybody.
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 09 2017 22:28 GMT
#198
Early days, but looks like NP should beat SG 2-1, with SG being a team you have to respect right now.

Still doesn't say much - seems like server made a big difference. I guess NP looked stronger on their server than the reverse, and obviously PLD and Fata have a bigger disadvantage than anyone else. Still not sure how confident I should be with NP.C9 though. The Fata version started really strong last time as well. The mentality of the team is the real question, and I don't know how much that has improved. MSS is a strong player now, but he has a history as a choker.

Please just win TI.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 09 2017 22:35 GMT
#199
Fata and PLD are in north america with the rest of NP right now by the way
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 09 2017 22:48 GMT
#200
Noice anime beat the carnival
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 09 2017 23:22 GMT
#201
the return of clown9.

the only thing I miss is bone7 and master singu

but fata and whoever offlane they have is good enuf for me.

friendship and anime

(but who's drafting now?)
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MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
May 09 2017 23:31 GMT
#202
On May 10 2017 08:22 evanthebouncy! wrote:
the return of clown9.

the only thing I miss is bone7 and master singu

but fata and whoever offlane they have is good enuf for me.

friendship and anime

(but who's drafting now?)

Its only missing master singsing, Bone3+2+2 is their coach
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
May 09 2017 23:33 GMT
#203
On May 09 2017 07:14 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Yeah, four dominant performances but the competition has been lacking.

Aui wants to play hyper greedy support again which is interesting. It obviously works against mediocre teams but whether top ones wouldn't just crush it idk. Of course, maybe they'd play differently against better teams.

Won TI5 right?
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 10 2017 06:40 GMT
#204
The game has changed in two years.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 10 2017 07:10 GMT
#205
On May 10 2017 08:22 evanthebouncy! wrote:
the return of clown9.

the only thing I miss is bone7 and master singu

but fata and whoever offlane they have is good enuf for me.

friendship and anime

(but who's drafting now?)

same as most of the c9 roster run before it's EE and i hope it doesn't change (only pie was the closest as better and we got tinker support from that .. bonechan was a garbage drafter)

good we don't have boner7 anymore .. god that dude is the biggest thrower in his worst performance
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Damned627
Profile Joined November 2016
Indonesia264 Posts
May 11 2017 14:22 GMT
#206
Classic AUI, has more farm than the pos 1 of the team. This greedy pos 4 can work, after all, it won TI5 and even though 4 roam is the meta, everything can work in this patch.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
May 12 2017 04:44 GMT
#207
Fata is such an upgrade for NP. Pretty sure his previous stack failed cuz feero mid instead of him...
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 12 2017 06:58 GMT
#208
Haven't lost a series yet. Every game looked like a snowball and won against isgg 14 minutes.

feels good
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Xurr
Profile Joined April 2016
Germany313 Posts
May 12 2017 09:49 GMT
#209
Let's see if DC is more of a challenge tonight.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 13 2017 13:42 GMT
#210
On May 12 2017 18:49 Xurr wrote:
Let's see if DC is more of a challenge tonight.

oh shit we lost .. first series loss of the roster
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-13 15:10:20
May 13 2017 15:07 GMT
#211
Yea, I just watched the highlights but seemed like both games NP did well early but then crumbled at some point. First game seemed like Abed's Meepo just reached critical mass and NP didn't manage to put him down enough despite them having a "lead", and in 2nd game there seemed to be some careless fights from NP when they had a pretty clear lead and should have just disengaged.

But the deciding games will happen today and tomorrow. They play against TBirds in the Epicenter finals later today and they should beat SG today to advance to play TBirds+DC in the Summit quals tomorrow.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
May 14 2017 07:43 GMT
#212
we fucking suck
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Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
May 14 2017 08:44 GMT
#213
drafts are too predictable it feels like?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-14 10:49:21
May 14 2017 10:48 GMT
#214
Game 1 against DC they got rekt with meepo midgame peak. Game 2 was just them being careless lategame.

Against TBirds they just got outplayed and outdrafted.

On May 14 2017 17:44 Nymzee wrote:
drafts are too predictable it feels like?


the drafts like first 3 series looked really good and then we are back to first pick abaddon like they're relying on winning early game
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 14 2017 11:30 GMT
#215
Need to watch the Thunderbirds games.

C9 always had draft cycles where they figured something out and then relied on it too much.
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 14 2017 11:58 GMT
#216
Games are so late for me that I can't really watch live. But against TBirds at least it seemed like they were at a disadvantage draft wise and TBirds could get an easy laning phase and just farm too easily. Against DC it seemed that NP was somewhat on a clock both games but at least in g2 they still got a great start and were heading to a win but just lost it.

The Summit quals end tonight, hopefully they'll manage to change something to the right direction in the drafts. It's a bit surprising that they don't prioritize TB for example at all atm given how many other teams are running him. Getting to at least one of these two LANs would be good.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 14 2017 15:28 GMT
#217
g1 vs thunderbirds they were definitely on the clock(they don't even have good tower hitters and that was vs treant), g2 was just TB outclassing them in both drafting and play

also seriously they should stop firstpicking abaddon that thing is situationally good (they kept doing that even before this roster)
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juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 14 2017 20:32 GMT
#218
NP not playing like complete trash today. If only they showed up like this for the Epicenter qualifiers
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-14 23:09:57
May 14 2017 23:09 GMT
#219
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juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 15 2017 00:19 GMT
#220
On May 15 2017 08:09 Laertes wrote:
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On May 15 2017 05:32 juuto wrote:
NP not playing like complete trash today. If only they showed up like this for the Epicenter qualifiers


If they hadn't lost the epicenter qualifiers they wouldn't be playing this well today.

Fun fact: You learn way more subconsciously from losses than you do from wins.


Okay but I wanted every former Epicenter champion present for the event though
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
May 15 2017 04:39 GMT
#221
We'll see our boys at the summit.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
May 15 2017 04:42 GMT
#222
This made me so happy to see NP make it! Everyone was on fire today, they beat Thunderbirds and DC very convincingly. Things look very good for this team in the TI qualifiers and at the Summit. What a remarkable improvement after yesterday
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 15 2017 05:01 GMT
#223
Nice that they qualified to Summit at least. Epicenter was the more competitive LAN with bigger prize pool but Summit has good teams too. Good to see them bouncing back from the loss yesterday and winning both deciding games today.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
May 15 2017 05:14 GMT
#224
On May 15 2017 14:01 spudde123 wrote:
Nice that they qualified to Summit at least. Epicenter was the more competitive LAN with bigger prize pool but Summit has good teams too. Good to see them bouncing back from the loss yesterday and winning both deciding games today.


summit is so hype and fun though
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-15 06:09:31
May 15 2017 06:05 GMT
#225
I watched the highlights now and it didn't seem like they played super well all the time still but unlike in the losses they had earlier their drafts were such that they could still do things and come back even if a bit behind.

Still feels like the upside this lineup has is way higher than the previous one. Aui has also seemed to be performing pretty well already
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 15 2017 06:22 GMT
#226
yey we qualified ! :D

we beat both NA teams that beat us yesterday .. good shit
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Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
May 15 2017 11:38 GMT
#227
MSS-God!! Aui_2000 is doing well at support already. They still need to improve some things before facing stronger teams at lan, but that's what bootcamps are for, right?
Damned627
Profile Joined November 2016
Indonesia264 Posts
May 15 2017 13:49 GMT
#228
Aui with the Rampage..
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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
May 15 2017 17:20 GMT
#229
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Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
May 19 2017 18:23 GMT
#230
http://epicenter.gg/en/press/voting

sigh
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Aznupdown
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada318 Posts
May 19 2017 19:02 GMT
#231
When there is a will, there is a way!
I said hiii
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-19 20:29:44
May 19 2017 20:29 GMT
#232
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 19 2017 22:16 GMT
#233
Chinese love NP, right?

If they find out about it they could swing it.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 20 2017 05:05 GMT
#234
On May 20 2017 07:16 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Chinese love NP, right?

If they find out about it they could swing it.

there's LGD so they're not getting the votes

pretty sure navi is going
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 20 2017 06:31 GMT
#235
Yea NaVi seems more likely. But NP instead is going to Zotac Cup straight after Manila, so they'll play 3 LANs anyway. It isn't as competitive as Epicenter of course but has some good teams still.
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-20 09:47:38
May 20 2017 09:46 GMT
#236
I remember post TI4 C9 beating NAVI in a fan vote before. Of course, that NAVI was looking a lot worse then than the current iteration.

Even if they are going to other events, I'm sad NP didn't qualify. Production value at last year's event was completely bonkers. Outside of TI/Majors, it's the tournament I've been looking forward to the most.
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-26 06:52:26
May 26 2017 06:52 GMT
#237
thank you NP for kicking secrets butt
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
May 26 2017 07:42 GMT
#238
On May 26 2017 15:52 its_a_me wrote:
thank you NP for kicking secrets butt


exposing puppey still is EE's specialty
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7710 Posts
May 26 2017 07:57 GMT
#239
NP vs EG would be dream Grand Finals honestly
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 26 2017 08:16 GMT
#240
Aui's Tree picking people off is a pleasure to watch
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 26 2017 08:19 GMT
#241
On May 26 2017 17:16 spudde123 wrote:
Aui's Tree picking people off is a pleasure to watch

still waiting to see him farm aghs and spam trees in the map
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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
May 26 2017 17:42 GMT
#242
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Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
May 26 2017 17:46 GMT
#243
China are anime killers, they don't give shit about the plot
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
May 26 2017 20:40 GMT
#244
NP (FATA especially) looked solid. Previous iterations of C9/NP would have crumbled and lost 2-0 after sabotaging themselves like that in game 1 vs Secret.
Hope they make it to vs EG at least
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 27 2017 04:56 GMT
#245
On May 27 2017 02:46 Pontual wrote:
China are anime killers, they don't give shit about the plot


apparently Anime > Chinese Wixua novels
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
May 27 2017 14:08 GMT
#246
TOP 3 BABY
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-27 14:10:38
May 27 2017 14:10 GMT
#247
"we just confidence in ourselves and also each other" - Fata after g1 according to aui

artour babaev vs jacky mao again
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 27 2017 15:10 GMT
#248
Clown9 are back!
Hope for that coveted 2nd place boys
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 28 2017 02:28 GMT
#249
GL NP. Rooting for ya.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 28 2017 07:44 GMT
#250
CMON CLOUD 9

THE ONE AND ONLY

BEAT EG AND CLAIM UR RIGHTFUL SILVER
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 28 2017 08:55 GMT
#251
G3 TILT BOIS
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 28 2017 09:03 GMT
#252
GOD DAMMIT CLOWN9
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 28 2017 09:10 GMT
#253
THIS TEAM'S ACTUALLY CLOUD9 IT'S THE SAME KIND OF TILT THEY ALWAYS DO

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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 28 2017 09:53 GMT
#254
I'm so excited for this team
Exactly as C9 of the old
They can literally wincome second in any tournament including TI, beat any team in the world show awesome plays
And tilt and throw like noone else can
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 28 2017 10:31 GMT
#255
Oh dear I just watched the highlights of the EG series, finals spot was so close. Base pushing those sidelanes was pretty tricky in g2, it's hard to come to help the Bristle when EG jumps him without having multiple people inevitably in range for Sumail to get with his vortex. Though that 4 or 5 man vortex was a bit too much in that one push.

But it was a pretty good showing nevertheless. The c9 spirit is back. In good news the field in Zotac became a bit better with Newbee and DC joining. I think there is still some hope for a TI invite if they manage to win/get 2nd at Zotac+Summit. Zotac starts already in a few days
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
May 28 2017 10:33 GMT
#256
They are still in NA though right?
So it's not like they need an invite anyways
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-28 10:36:49
May 28 2017 10:35 GMT
#257
On May 28 2017 19:33 LemOn wrote:
They are still in NA though right?
So it's not like they need an invite anyways


NA quals aren't easy at all if there is again only one spot. TBirds and DC will likely both be in the quals. Also there's Freedom and coL who may be able to do something. If none of these teams are invited the spot will be more contested than CIS and EU ones.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 28 2017 11:17 GMT
#258
On May 28 2017 19:33 LemOn wrote:
They are still in NA though right?
So it's not like they need an invite anyways

NA quals aren't easy and just like always they always invite too many EU teams despite a really low success rate of EU teams on TI.
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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-28 18:38:54
May 28 2017 18:38 GMT
#259
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 28 2017 22:28 GMT
#260
On May 29 2017 03:38 Laertes wrote:
Game 2 versus EG wasn't a throw. NP were on a timer and EG pulled some sick luck(I say luck because there's no other word to describe it, how do you get 3 straight Double Damage runes the moment you come ahead?). It's actually disgusting because other than MAYBE Sumail(he got really lucky too) I think NP played better that game.

Double rune spawns. EG got control when the chances for DD runes doubled.

I wasn't keeping track, but the number of DD runes, given the time EG had total control of the river, seemed to be the expected amount.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
May 29 2017 06:39 GMT
#261
Fata is a beast. Think he is the best player after G that has not won much trophies.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 29 2017 12:16 GMT
#262
On May 29 2017 15:39 DucK- wrote:
Fata is a beast. Think he is the best player after G that has not won much trophies.


Well I think they have a good shot of winning some titles. The summit should be a good opportunity for them. At this point based on their play, I'd say they are the co-favorite with VP
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NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
May 30 2017 08:19 GMT
#263
Fata is very very stable mid. He will never get crushed. But he will never shine. His playstyle is different. Being very good and stable is not enough these days. You need a mircale or a sumail or a similar type of high skill aggressive player to be able to win a lot. I really like NPs lineup but i can't see them being favorites. Good performance on the last LAN, but that was just a spike and advantage against teams that havn't really figured out the patch yet.
The summit will be different - people will get used to the changes and now the best teams will really shine.
ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-30 09:12:39
May 30 2017 09:09 GMT
#264
On May 30 2017 17:19 NInoff wrote:
Fata is very very stable mid. He will never get crushed. But he will never shine. His playstyle is different. Being very good and stable is not enough these days. You need a mircale or a sumail or a similar type of high skill aggressive player to be able to win a lot. I really like NPs lineup but i can't see them being favorites. Good performance on the last LAN, but that was just a spike and advantage against teams that havn't really figured out the patch yet.
The summit will be different - people will get used to the changes and now the best teams will really shine.


Well, I mean Liquid and TNC were suddenly best teams after SL... Kappa.

EE is the aggressive player in NP. Fata balances him out.

Also, being very good and stable won Fear a TI.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-30 09:16:52
May 30 2017 09:10 GMT
#265
I'm not really seeing this "he will never shine". He doesn't have a super flashy Invoker and his hero pool at least in the past was a bit different (for example he didn't previously play much Lina or Storm when it was popular but instead has his own niche picks that others didn't use) but other than that I don't see him as somehow fundamentally inferior to anyone (unless Sumail proceeds to play like he did at Manila I guess). Depends a lot on what the team needs whether Fata or someone else is the best choice. Also imo EE's way of playing (good or bad) allows for the mid player to take a lot of space and shine. He often postures so aggressively that it draws the other team to react and show heroes either through ganks or defending buildings, which allows the mid to farm in peace or go for pickoffs or other team moves. It was the same with w33, Fata in c9 and SingSing. In fact in c9 days it was specifically Fata imo that got to shine and it'll be that way again for NP if they do even remotely well.

On May 30 2017 18:09 ChickenDieAlive wrote:
Also, being very good and stable won Fear a TI.


To be fair to his point Fear had Sumail mid and EE obviously isn't a similar sort of player. But I think categorizing Fata as somehow not aggressive, not flashy is a mistake. It depends on the team and in c9/NP he is the one who can take the role of a mobile hero who utilizes gank opportunities around the map or comes in to fights to clean up and take the glory.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-30 09:37:44
May 30 2017 09:33 GMT
#266
On May 30 2017 17:19 NInoff wrote:
Fata is very very stable mid. He will never get crushed. But he will never shine. His playstyle is different. Being very good and stable is not enough these days. You need a mircale or a sumail or a similar type of high skill aggressive player to be able to win a lot. I really like NPs lineup but i can't see them being favorites. Good performance on the last LAN, but that was just a spike and advantage against teams that havn't really figured out the patch yet.
The summit will be different - people will get used to the changes and now the best teams will really shine.

This "hyper aggressive" mid requirement isn't really true all the time. There's plenty of team who did well in TI or majors without them . You just have to ahead of the pack in meta and play with insane synergy.

(sample of this CDEC TI5, Wings , TI4 VG, TL last year , VG post-TI4 era, EG post-TI4 with fear mid)


And having a hyperaggressive high skilled doesn't necessarily mean you're automatically a good team (big example is Secret this year)
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 30 2017 09:47 GMT
#267
Lol @ Fata not shining.

No idea what games you've been watching.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 30 2017 10:49 GMT
#268
On May 30 2017 18:47 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Lol @ Fata not shining.

No idea what games you've been watching.

I think he means the hyperfarming hyperagressive 1 position mid players like miracle/suma1l/Ana/sccc
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-30 12:41:05
May 30 2017 11:22 GMT
#269
On May 30 2017 19:49 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2017 18:47 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Lol @ Fata not shining.

No idea what games you've been watching.

I think he means the hyperfarming hyperagressive 1 position mid players like miracle/suma1l/Ana/sccc


Fata is also regularly pos 1 for NP. I don't think the difference in playstyle is as drastic as some people claim. At some point in the past Fata has played more heroes like DK, DP, Razor or Viper (heroes that more or less stand there and ask to be initiated on rather than heroes that jump around and clean up) or utility heroes like Puck, Brew, Beastmaster where the narrative probably comes from. But that is by no means the only thing he has done and it isn't really what he has played on NP.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
May 30 2017 12:15 GMT
#270
His most stand out recent performances have been on QoP. Pretty sure she and Ember are his most played heroes currently. Don't see how these aren't aggressive flashy heroes.

Yeah, he's played a bit of Bristle and Puck, but there's TA and Lina too.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-30 13:25:06
May 30 2017 13:23 GMT
#271
On May 30 2017 19:49 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2017 18:47 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Lol @ Fata not shining.

No idea what games you've been watching.

I think he means the hyperfarming hyperagressive 1 position mid players like miracle/suma1l/Ana/sccc

That is correct.

The thing is i like & follow Fata since his Mousesports days in 2012-13. He was always an awesome guy very stable laner, with somewhat different hero pool. For example he was owning with puck on C9 couple of years back, while no one else was picking it, he also showed how fast Razor can farm when used properly etc.

Then the tanky strat (razor, dk, dp, viper etc.)during his Liquid days owned for a couple of months. But when people figured them out - the success dissapeared.

My point is - FATA is a type of guy that will never lose you the game. But he will never win it with individual plays. Miracle/ana/SCCC/Sumail are the other way around - they will win it most of the time, but sometimes they can lose it.

Looking at the Lan results post TI for example shows us that flashy mid is the way to go. Maybe that will change - time will tell.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
May 30 2017 16:18 GMT
#272
Fata is also a beast on Zeus and Beastmaster. I hope these heroes become relevant again (MSS BM is also quite good).
Envy fan since NTH.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 30 2017 17:05 GMT
#273
If NP pick BM, it's most likely as a 4 position, then as a 3 position. VERY unlikely that FATA would play it.
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Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-30 18:10:10
May 30 2017 18:08 GMT
#274
Pretty much every single team has a 'flashy' mid. I can be easily argued most of them are doing worse than NP.
That's not even mentioning that if NP had won at Manilla, everyone would be gushing about how fucking incredible and unstoppable Fata is. There's just such a huge confirmation bias going on there, it's silly honestly.

Reminds me of how everyone always said Miracle was the best player ever, carried OG and notail was shit. Of course now it's 'ana can't win mid' and OG wins because notail is the ultimate space-making carry that let's him recover.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
May 31 2017 03:05 GMT
#275
On May 30 2017 22:23 NInoff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2017 19:49 goody153 wrote:
On May 30 2017 18:47 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Lol @ Fata not shining.

No idea what games you've been watching.

I think he means the hyperfarming hyperagressive 1 position mid players like miracle/suma1l/Ana/sccc

That is correct.

The thing is i like & follow Fata since his Mousesports days in 2012-13. He was always an awesome guy very stable laner, with somewhat different hero pool. For example he was owning with puck on C9 couple of years back, while no one else was picking it, he also showed how fast Razor can farm when used properly etc.

Then the tanky strat (razor, dk, dp, viper etc.)during his Liquid days owned for a couple of months. But when people figured them out - the success dissapeared.

My point is - FATA is a type of guy that will never lose you the game. But he will never win it with individual plays. Miracle/ana/SCCC/Sumail are the other way around - they will win it most of the time, but sometimes they can lose it.

Looking at the Lan results post TI for example shows us that flashy mid is the way to go. Maybe that will change - time will tell.


Disagree. Having watched fata since mouz, my opinion of him is a very good laner, farmer and playmaker, who has often been shackled by weak drafts/teammates. There's only so much you can do when you have clowns, pajkatt or synd in your team.
AbareKiller
Profile Joined May 2014
456 Posts
May 31 2017 03:27 GMT
#276
Back in C9 EE was the unknown factor that can drag back a game with a second item Divine AM (only to lose it later without BB after they've brought back the game to 0), while FATA was the stable backbone of the team. Now in NP it seems like he's the flashy player while EE plays the Bristleback/etc...
zdarr
Profile Joined September 2010
France375 Posts
May 31 2017 04:17 GMT
#277
putting EE on hero you can't feed on (bristle/medusa/viper) seems a good balance to his questionnable play. In the manilla masters, fata and MSS were delivering on the playmaking part and i think it's a good team balance they found there
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-31 07:31:14
May 31 2017 07:28 GMT
#278
How is the best tempo mid beside Sumail getting flamed? Do you even dota?

His only weakness is he has history of choking during high pressure tournament, unlike Sumail who is a coldblooded monster. But I'm pretty sure you are flaming his skills not mentality.
zdarr
Profile Joined September 2010
France375 Posts
May 31 2017 17:11 GMT
#279
On May 31 2017 16:28 babysimba wrote:
How is the best tempo mid beside Sumail getting flamed? Do you even dota?

His only weakness is he has history of choking during high pressure tournament, unlike Sumail who is a coldblooded monster. But I'm pretty sure you are flaming his skills not mentality.


No one is flaming fata, do you even read?
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-31 20:23:03
May 31 2017 17:36 GMT
#280
FATA is playing flashy as fuck these days tbh

On May 30 2017 17:19 NInoff wrote:
Fata is very very stable mid. He will never get crushed. But he will never shine. His playstyle is different. Being very good and stable is not enough these days. You need a mircale or a sumail or a similar type of high skill aggressive player to be able to win a lot. I really like NPs lineup but i can't see them being favorites. Good performance on the last LAN, but that was just a spike and advantage against teams that havn't really figured out the patch yet.
The summit will be different - people will get used to the changes and now the best teams will really shine.


How can you be sure it's just a spike? Have you already figured the patch out? This patch is very open and teams are playing different heroes. If you think DotA scene is that predictable you haven't been paying attention.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-15 13:59:38
June 13 2017 17:55 GMT
#281
A win at Summit might just be enough to scrape an invite for TI. If only EG get invited from NA I think the qualifiers are going to be super difficult so I think it's important NP manage it.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
June 14 2017 05:05 GMT
#282
Great opportunity for c9 to finish second again
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
June 18 2017 07:58 GMT
#283
Didn't see the VP games live but from watching the highlights it seemed like the Naga was a rather useless pick. Somewhat understandable attempt looking at the lineups I guess but it was just way too slow to come online and be useful. And in 2nd game they got cliffed by Lil a bunch of times. Also their lanes weren't super strong in either game.

The NA quals are likely to be very competitive with NP, Planet Odd, DC, coL and Freedom battling for what is presumably 1 direct slot and 1 wildcard slot. Feels like NP had a better grasp on drafts compared to other teams at Manila and now they have to find their groove again a bit. Not sure if they've had a chance to practice much due to flying from lan to lan, and a bunch of stuff they used at Manila got nerfed a bit.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
June 18 2017 08:28 GMT
#284
NP got no more events, right ?

It's kinda difficult to get an invite with Odd, TNC being the competition despite having 2nd,3rd,4th place finishes. I guess team's going qualifiers then
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HappyTuna
Profile Joined November 2016
United Kingdom117 Posts
June 18 2017 09:29 GMT
#285
You people are actualy delusional if beating Empire and Na'Vi makes you invite worthy. I'm not even sure they're locked for qualifiers with both ODD and DC looking much better on their recents LANS. Like they got completely shit stomped by VP playing meme drafts, at least DC was able to take it to a 3rd game.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 10:01:36
June 18 2017 09:59 GMT
#286
On June 18 2017 18:29 HappyTuna wrote:
You people are actualy delusional if beating Empire and Na'Vi makes you invite worthy. I'm not even sure they're locked for qualifiers with both ODD and DC looking much better on their recents LANS. Like they got completely shit stomped by VP playing meme drafts, at least DC was able to take it to a 3rd game.

i see you conveniently don't count all the other events/tournaments and only count the summit LUL

also come on your bias against NP is way too obvious for your opinion to actually have a value (check your own post history)

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ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
June 18 2017 11:11 GMT
#287
I don't think any NA team (excluding EG) deserves a direct invite. Their results aren't impressive enough.

NA qualifier will be really stacked, it isn't the wonderland anymore.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
June 18 2017 11:19 GMT
#288
Yep despite how well Odd and NP did since the major. It isn't good enough but due to how well NA teams are doing post-major might be the time to give NA more slots than EU considering VP,OG and TL are obviously getting an invite whoever remains doesn't have a better trackrecord than the rest of NA who isn't EG

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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 11:51:59
June 18 2017 11:23 GMT
#289
HappyTuna seems to be imagining these "you people" who claim NP is invite worthy. They had a chance to get invited with a finals spot from the Summit because they already had 3rd place from Manila behind them (+2nd from Zotac) but now they aren't getting it, and noone is really claiming they should be invited. They are among the teams who are "closest" to an invite but I think they needed just a bit more to make a great case, whether it was a finals spot at Manila, winning Zotac over Newbee, or getting to the finals of Summit.

And as far as LAN performance goes, NP's performance at Manila was good. They were really close to a finals spot at an event that was very competitive. NP didn't look great at the Summit against the better teams though.
ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 11:31:14
June 18 2017 11:27 GMT
#290
On June 18 2017 20:19 goody153 wrote:
Yep despite how well Odd and NP did since the major. It isn't good enough but due to how well NA teams are doing post-major might be the time to give NA more slots than EU considering VP,OG and TL are obviously getting an invite whoever remains doesn't have a better trackrecord than the rest of NA who isn't EG



Aggreed. Excluding OG and TL, the only team in EU that is doing something is Secret. And the record of Secret isn't even that good.

Most of SEA teams are really bad atm. TNC is OK.

6 invites

8 qualified teams: 1 CIS, 1 EU, 2 China, 1 SEA, 2 NA, 1 SA

2 wild cards
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
June 18 2017 11:40 GMT
#291
I think only 1 SEA qual spot is unlikely if they get no invites. Seems to me that they'll have 2 spots. It might be possible that Valve gives NA 2 qual slots and just has 1 wildcard slot, but not sure how likely it is. Planet Odd had a decent showing at Galaxy Battles, DC didn't play all that bad at Summit despite their final placing not being super good, and NP had a good showing at Manila and didn't lose to bad teams at Zotac and Summit either. It's not completely impossible that Valve thinks the region is pretty good atm and deserves those slots.

The situation would be simpler if Secret won the Summit and got a TI invite, and Planet Odd played in the EU quals (not sure they even have a teamhouse in NA these days, afaik they just flew over to BTS house to play the last NA quals). Then you could have 7 invites, 1 EU qual and 1 NA direct slot and 1 wildcard slot for each, and the regions would be more balanced imo.
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
June 18 2017 11:58 GMT
#292
Wasnt there a recent Reso interview in which he said that they have a teamhouse in LA?
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
June 18 2017 13:46 GMT
#293
I would like to see more wild card teams. I get that it costs money, but I feel Valve can afford it. Would make it fairer when the regions' comparative strengths are debatable and also solve Visa issues with plenty teams to fill in.

Probably see one invite (EG), one qualifier and one wild card. NP could definitely lose out to Odd and DC for even getting a wild card slot, yet all three would be favourites for SA and CIS qualifiers and second favourites for EU and SEA.
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Mosoball
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland686 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-18 16:55:21
June 18 2017 16:54 GMT
#294
Regarding Odd being in NA quals, doesn't that feel a bit odd to anyone else? I mean, they have 0 ties to NA anymore.

Edit: NVM should read all of the past posts... Anyway.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
June 18 2017 19:00 GMT
#295
On June 18 2017 20:27 ChickenDieAlive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2017 20:19 goody153 wrote:
Yep despite how well Odd and NP did since the major. It isn't good enough but due to how well NA teams are doing post-major might be the time to give NA more slots than EU considering VP,OG and TL are obviously getting an invite whoever remains doesn't have a better trackrecord than the rest of NA who isn't EG



Aggreed. Excluding OG and TL, the only team in EU that is doing something is Secret. And the record of Secret isn't even that good.

Most of SEA teams are really bad atm. TNC is OK.

6 invites

8 qualified teams: 1 CIS, 1 EU, 2 China, 1 SEA, 2 NA, 1 SA

2 wild cards

Yep same thoughts. Though we could be wrong about SEA getting less spots again again considering what happened last year TI6 where 3 of them ended up top 8 and destroying the best EU teams.
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ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-19 03:08:30
June 19 2017 03:07 GMT
#296
Oh well, I guess the format is clear now. NP should have no problem going through.

More SEA teams mean OG having more chance to be eliminated early, kappa.
caramel-
Profile Joined September 2016
Indonesia66 Posts
June 19 2017 05:06 GMT
#297
On June 19 2017 12:07 ChickenDieAlive wrote:
Oh well, I guess the format is clear now. NP should have no problem going through.

More SEA teams mean OG having more chance to be eliminated early, kappa.

That's good. Hahaha

At least Envy almost certain will go to international. Hope they will became nice black horse :p
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
June 19 2017 07:19 GMT
#298
I don't think NP's place is guaranteed by any means. Imo Odd, NP and DC are all teams that can take games from each other and it depends on the day what happens. You can easily lose one series even if you were otherwise better. For example the old NP went undefeated in Kiev quals groups and then lost to coL and DC in the playoffs despite not really ever losing to them before that. Also not sure exactly how strong coL is. They played all those quals with Feero playing on high ping and now he's in their teamhouse and they've had time to practice. coL also often has very push heavy drafts that may catch you by surprise.

I suppose if you intend to get a good TI placing then you should beat all of those teams. But I think DC, Odd and NP are all better than quite a few teams that will be at TI and one of them won't make it.
ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
June 19 2017 07:35 GMT
#299
Usually, the qualifier is double-elimination bracket. So NP has 2 chances. Furthermore, they don't have to take first place.

If NP doesn't make it, then I guess they don't deserve to be at TI.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
June 19 2017 08:27 GMT
#300
I predict NP to crash out of qualifiers cuz they didn't ban abed meepo in decider XD
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
June 19 2017 11:50 GMT
#301
Please no...

I think NP are favourites but they could easily fail.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
June 19 2017 13:01 GMT
#302
NP and Odd has the highest chance to make it through the qualifiers but i'd say they could easily flop out as well. Gotta remember that it's a qualifier where they're playing against teams they play alot against(possibly common scrim partners as well) so anything can happen
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Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
June 21 2017 17:43 GMT
#303
np + odd would be perfect.
I would love to see misery get to a valve event again.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-04 20:20:06
July 04 2017 20:19 GMT
#304


now we have Freedom's captain as couch too .. not only bone7
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 04 2017 20:21 GMT
#305
I guess they had to announce that before envy revealed that they had a coach in his blog complaining that valve will only pay for 6 people per team to attend TI when NP have coach + manager + 5 players
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-04 20:30:05
July 04 2017 20:24 GMT
#306
On July 05 2017 05:19 goody153 wrote:
https://twitter.com/NPDotA/status/882332336238600192

now we have Freedom's captain as couch too .. not only bone7


I don't think B7 has coached since DAC
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 05 2017 18:45 GMT
#307
Stan King's a solid player, I look forward to seeing him coach our boys in blue to a TI victory!
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 16 2017 22:30 GMT
#308
Any reason Envy has been playing Bat recently?

Please tell me there's not going to be an MSS/Envy role swap happening sometimes... only reason I could possibly think for that is if they want a Meepo strat and Envy doesn't want to play it.
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AbareKiller
Profile Joined May 2014
456 Posts
July 17 2017 03:31 GMT
#309
LC as well. I'm guessing they want to increase their pick flexibility. It let them first phase Bat/LC without locking MSS hero's in, like how they were playing that weird support bat in Manila.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 06:03:19
July 17 2017 06:00 GMT
#310
On July 17 2017 07:30 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Any reason Envy has been playing Bat recently?

Please tell me there's not going to be an MSS/Envy role swap happening sometimes... only reason I could possibly think for that is if they want a Meepo strat and Envy doesn't want to play it.

Envy can play the space create dude just not as good as his standard splitpush/farm/timing

but yeah it's more for draft flexibility possibly

for example envy has been playing LC which gives them a team specific first pick material since it could go offlane or safelane

like abarekiller said it's even better with bat assuming he gets it right since bat can be played on 4/1/3

they already have razor as a 1/2 pos draft or their puck(2/3) and bb(1/2/3)
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 09:34:25
July 17 2017 09:32 GMT
#311
LC/Bat switch to the safelane might be for Brood strats. NP has never really picked it so it doesn't get banned against them from what I recall, and if they show LC/Bat early teams are likely to just assume it is for MSS. Also there's probably some cases where you could run LC safelane as a part of some pretty fast paced push strat where your mid is the carry. Situations where the Bat switch would happen seem pretty rare to me, in most cases it'll be played by MSS/Aui
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 17 2017 11:46 GMT
#312
Yeah, makes sense. Something like jungle Ench for lane disruption and non-carry damage, two strong solo laners (maybe LC, Tide, Brood, Bat, Bristle?) who ate ok without support, and dual lane mid (maybe MK, Sky, Ogre, ES with SF, Storm, Huskar, Sniper?) to get carry mid a good start into strong snowball could work.

I still think that you want a Meepo trump card if at all possible so hopefully they are working on that too. You only need about 15 games to win TI and an unexpected Meepo against a good draft can be practically a freebie and leads to draft advantage every game afterwards as people have to stress about it.
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Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
July 17 2017 12:05 GMT
#313
On July 17 2017 15:00 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 07:30 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Any reason Envy has been playing Bat recently?

Please tell me there's not going to be an MSS/Envy role swap happening sometimes... only reason I could possibly think for that is if they want a Meepo strat and Envy doesn't want to play it.

Envy can play the space create dude just not as good as his standard splitpush/farm/timing

but yeah it's more for draft flexibility possibly

for example envy has been playing LC which gives them a team specific first pick material since it could go offlane or safelane

like abarekiller said it's even better with bat assuming he gets it right since bat can be played on 4/1/3

they already have razor as a 1/2 pos draft or their puck(2/3) and bb(1/2/3)

Pos 1 bat here would be mid? Mid is so important that some people consider it pos. 1 and others don't so sometimes it's confusing.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 14:12:48
July 17 2017 14:05 GMT
#314
On July 17 2017 21:05 Pontual wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 15:00 goody153 wrote:
On July 17 2017 07:30 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Any reason Envy has been playing Bat recently?

Please tell me there's not going to be an MSS/Envy role swap happening sometimes... only reason I could possibly think for that is if they want a Meepo strat and Envy doesn't want to play it.

Envy can play the space create dude just not as good as his standard splitpush/farm/timing

but yeah it's more for draft flexibility possibly

for example envy has been playing LC which gives them a team specific first pick material since it could go offlane or safelane

like abarekiller said it's even better with bat assuming he gets it right since bat can be played on 4/1/3

they already have razor as a 1/2 pos draft or their puck(2/3) and bb(1/2/3)

Pos 1 bat here would be mid? Mid is so important that some people consider it pos. 1 and others don't so sometimes it's confusing.

It's really just a laneswitch if bat ends up mid and fata still plays the DPS/midgame hero no problem just starts in the safelane. Or the bat is played safelane.

It's not impossible if the draft ends up with a LC + farming mid though EE is probably playing the LC and MSS the bat but it's a nice option.

On July 17 2017 20:46 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Yeah, makes sense. Something like jungle Ench for lane disruption and non-carry damage, two strong solo laners (maybe LC, Tide, Brood, Bat, Bristle?) who ate ok without support, and dual lane mid (maybe MK, Sky, Ogre, ES with SF, Storm, Huskar, Sniper?) to get carry mid a good start into strong snowball could work.

I still think that you want a Meepo trump card if at all possible so hopefully they are working on that too. You only need about 15 games to win TI and an unexpected Meepo against a good draft can be practically a freebie and leads to draft advantage every game afterwards as people have to stress about it.


Meepo is no longer that surprising anymore, it's weird power spike doesn't get people dumbfounded how to respond anymore. I'd say a huskar memepush would work just as well.
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 16:43:48
July 17 2017 16:43 GMT
#315
There are definitely still times when a Meepo 5th pick is close to an auto-win.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-18 06:27:02
July 18 2017 06:26 GMT
#316
On July 18 2017 01:43 FuzzyJAM wrote:
There are definitely still times when a Meepo 5th pick is close to an auto-win.

i honestly rather wish NP had a storm player(neither envy and fata are great storm players OR just storm players)

the hero is such an easy 5th pick outdraft
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 18 2017 10:11 GMT
#317
That's true. Storm seems a very Envy hero, and he has played it on occasion. Don't know if he's been practising it recently though.
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IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
July 18 2017 17:40 GMT
#318
On July 18 2017 19:11 FuzzyJAM wrote:
That's true. Storm seems a very Envy hero, and he has played it on occasion. Don't know if he's been practising it recently though.


EE has the problem on storm of going full hero mode. He will jump into 5 thinking he can get out and make big plays... and then it throws the game.

Storm is a weird hero where you can do so many cool things, but you can fuck up bad so easily
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Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
July 18 2017 17:45 GMT
#319
On July 18 2017 19:11 FuzzyJAM wrote:
That's true. Storm seems a very Envy hero, and he has played it on occasion. Don't know if he's been practising it recently though.


Can't be worse than Bone7 storm?
Envy fan since NTH.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
July 18 2017 18:52 GMT
#320
EE's Storm wasn't very effective with the previous NP iteration. Can't recall how the games were exactly and whether the drafts made sense around it, but anyway the results weren't great. They've picked Fata Storm once and it went well. Though it isn't a common hero for Fata by any means but I think they are willing to pick it if needed, such as in that game against Tinker.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
July 19 2017 04:46 GMT
#321
On July 18 2017 19:11 FuzzyJAM wrote:
That's true. Storm seems a very Envy hero, and he has played it on occasion. Don't know if he's been practising it recently though.

It's an envy hero but last time i saw the dude play the hero it wasn't that great .. probably needs alot more practice like his ember

fata isn't one of the mids who plays a great storm
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-19 22:57:58
July 19 2017 22:21 GMT
#322
Envy playing Storm safe lane right now.

Edit: Game did not go well... I think Storm maybe requires a safer and more selfish playstyle than Envy is used to.
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AbareKiller
Profile Joined May 2014
456 Posts
July 21 2017 09:23 GMT
#323
Envy looks a lot better on Bat than LC tbh.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 21 2017 16:14 GMT
#324
RIP to NP, I'll still proudly wear my NP.EternaLEnVy jersey
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7032 Posts
September 14 2017 02:48 GMT
#325
Locking this thread since NP is disbanded
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