Yeah pretty much
In terms of team synergy, impact and improvisation I don't think there's any question he's the best and has been besides a few chokes (cough, TI, cough)

Don't think random 3k scrubs that look at CS and MMR will see that though

Like that blink dagger pickup last game - damn awesome

Degu

Philippines202 Posts

April 30 2017 06:35 GMT

#642

On April 29 2017 01:17 nothingmuch wrote:
Pretty impossible to compare because the playstyles are so incredibly different. Most of the time Notail plays to enable Ana (or Miracle), neither Burning nor Ramzes have ever even remotely been in that role. Remember that Notail venge in DAC when Ana was on Alch? I challenge you to find anything like that in Burnings Or Ramzes' (or any other "position 1" players for that matter) arsenal.

Burning has had pretty sick Venge performances though! He pretty much ends up becoming a 5 with Pipe & Solar Crest.

sCuMBaG

United Kingdom1144 Posts

April 30 2017 10:09 GMT

#643

At the risk of sounding stupid.... can anyone tell me what OG actually stands for?
I can't find anything in the thread/liquipedia/OG homepage.

ahswtini

Northern Ireland22208 Posts

April 30 2017 10:27 GMT

#644

On April 30 2017 19:09 sCuMBaG wrote:
At the risk of sounding stupid.... can anyone tell me what OG actually stands for?
I can't find anything in the thread/liquipedia/OG homepage.

nobody knows, probably not even OG

LemOn

United Kingdom8629 Posts

April 30 2017 13:01 GMT

#645

I heard Openly Gay but who knows

evanthebouncy!

United States12796 Posts

April 30 2017 13:09 GMT

#646

orangunatang gaming

but nobody knows. you see when redeye announces the teams, ig, eg, og, it goes something like:

invictus gaming

evil genius

annnddd...

OG

so basicsally og stands for itself

LemOn

United Kingdom8629 Posts

April 30 2017 13:11 GMT

#647

On April 29 2017 00:36 Laertes wrote:

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He beat a team that has been last place in the last 4 tournaments.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Guys
I don't know
if they win the finals maybe n0tail might cement himself as TOP20 carry of today's dota scene!

nothingmuch

448 Posts

April 30 2017 17:03 GMT

#648

Don't be ridiculous, he's top 50 at best. He's so bad his team sometimes puts him on support heroes like venge and abbadon so his fails don't hurt the team so much. Pretty sure after this tournament he and Ana will get kicked for someone good like BSJ or Sing.

Dison92

Denmark142 Posts

April 30 2017 17:44 GMT

#649

On May 01 2017 02:03 nothingmuch wrote:
Don't be ridiculous, he's top 50 at best. He's so bad his team sometimes puts him on support heroes like venge and abbadon so his fails don't hurt the team so much. Pretty sure after this tournament he and Ana will get kicked for someone good like BSJ or Sing.

Nice trolling attempt.

spudde123

4814 Posts

April 30 2017 20:46 GMT

#650

Pretty crazy how clutch OG were towards the end. Somehow they always manage to be ready to capitalize when the enemy gives them the opportunity to take a big fight.

GumBa

United Kingdom31935 Posts

April 30 2017 21:16 GMT

#651

Such gods

LemOn

United Kingdom8629 Posts

April 30 2017 22:18 GMT

#652

Wait
They won game 5? I turned it off when they were losing 2-10 as I had my half naked girlfriend over
dammit and now I missed it

LemOn

United Kingdom8629 Posts

April 30 2017 22:35 GMT

#653

Oh
damn
they were so damn behind lol
But their draft was way stronger lategame, notail erased alch troll murdered OD with bkb on
A 4k noob like me didn't see that from the draft so I just turned it off xD

haxhax

125 Posts

May 01 2017 00:50 GMT

#654

Nah the draft looked wack, you can check SingSing's twitter to see how he felt about it.

LemOn

United Kingdom8629 Posts

May 01 2017 06:59 GMT

#655

On May 01 2017 09:50 haxhax wrote:
Nah the draft looked wack, you can check SingSing's twitter to see how he felt about it.

Yeah you know you are ahead of the curve when not even the pros understand what you are doing until after you crush with it.
And I really thought the game was over once they were so behind, turns out the draft was super strong VP didn't even have massive throws or anything and I don't have to feel bad :D

DucK-

Singapore11446 Posts

May 01 2017 07:09 GMT

#656

On May 01 2017 07:35 LemOn wrote:
Oh
damn
they were so damn behind lol
But their draft was way stronger lategame, notail erased alch troll murdered OD with bkb on
A 4k noob like me didn't see that from the draft so I just turned it off xD

Nah VP misplayed. OG did well to exploit the mistakes and strangle VP

nothingmuch

448 Posts

May 01 2017 09:55 GMT

#657

On May 01 2017 15:59 LemOn wrote:

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It baffles me to no end when people take the opinions of meme lords like Sing over those of 4 time major winners.
Remember when Sing played that amazing tournament and won against the best of the best? Yeah.

BreakupBoy

Germany171 Posts

May 01 2017 10:46 GMT

#658

On May 01 2017 18:55 nothingmuch wrote:

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I remember MLG Columbus

nVme

952 Posts

May 01 2017 12:00 GMT

#659

i think og is the best team at itemization of heroes, notail does it time and time again with it (niche luna aghs always comes to mind)

HeYmaney

Switzerland193 Posts

May 01 2017 12:13 GMT

#660

Am I the only one who thinks they were not so behind? I mean you can win it 22-5 yet if you don't dig a big hole in net worth there is still the possibility to reverse the score in 10 minutes right? I didn't see the XP curve though.