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Zeelah
Profile Joined September 2015
Ireland172 Posts
November 28 2015 15:15 GMT
#201
On November 28 2015 23:42 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2015 23:20 Zeelah wrote:
On November 28 2015 21:57 LemOn wrote:
damn this team is scary now

Well its almost all tier 2 teams at Dreamleague besides them.

Yeah you're right, my bad. They're shit.

Obviously they're a scary team,but we knew that already after they won the Major,this tourny doesn't prove much for them
♩♪♫ Stand In The Fire ♫♪♩
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 28 2015 17:03 GMT
#202
They were a T2 team after G1 vs EG still apparently
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-28 19:38:44
November 28 2015 19:28 GMT
#203
this tourney doesnt say much, all the really strong teams are missing.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
November 28 2015 20:04 GMT
#204
On November 29 2015 04:28 hunter_x wrote:
this tourney doesnt say much, all the really strong teams are missing.


And they beat all the strong teams except Vega at Frankfurt. Now they are doing what a strong team should do, destroy weaker teams.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
November 28 2015 20:46 GMT
#205
yeah i agree. we will see how long that will last though.
OceanLab
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France505 Posts
November 28 2015 21:03 GMT
#206
BigDaddyTwoLans
Liquid through and through
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
November 28 2015 23:38 GMT
#207
I think I'll do a mini draft analysis on OG, something similar to what I did for alliance then. The reason being that I view their current form similar to alliance 2013, in that it is heavily due to their drafts. They seem to always out draft or at least get their heroes.

Probably get it done on Thursday if no one has done yet.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
November 29 2015 05:40 GMT
#208
Borrowing from the DH preview thread (since that's over):

On November 28 2015 02:01 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2015 14:20 goody153 wrote:
On November 27 2015 14:17 Julmust wrote:
On November 27 2015 13:01 yookstah wrote:
Surprised you didn't use "Original Gangstas" ;o

Meh, too easy!

Original Ganksta's !

Obese Gladiators
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Oh, Goody153

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MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
November 29 2015 08:08 GMT
#209
On November 29 2015 08:38 DucK- wrote:
I think I'll do a mini draft analysis on OG, something similar to what I did for alliance then. The reason being that I view their current form similar to alliance 2013, in that it is heavily due to their drafts. They seem to always out draft or at least get their heroes.

Probably get it done on Thursday if no one has done yet.

Nice to see a Singaporean so into Dota like you
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
November 29 2015 15:03 GMT
#210
On November 29 2015 14:40 ASoo wrote:
Borrowing from the DH preview thread (since that's over):

Show nested quote +
On November 28 2015 02:01 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
On November 27 2015 14:20 goody153 wrote:
On November 27 2015 14:17 Julmust wrote:
On November 27 2015 13:01 yookstah wrote:
Surprised you didn't use "Original Gangstas" ;o

Meh, too easy!

Original Ganksta's !

Obese Gladiators
Online Gamblers
Oppressive Grandmothers
Only Gyrocopter
Outrageous Gonads
Overpriced Goods
Oh, Goody153

Obscure Guild-tag
Oy Gevalt
On Giraffes
Orcish Gangbangers
Obliterate Gerg
Oh, Grenada


I like the Oy Gevalt. I'm gonna say Fly came up with name and that is what it means.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
December 01 2015 19:04 GMT
#211
my prediction for OG's downfall:

Team will draft burst damage for OG's support (dazzle, wyvern)
Team will draft sustainable cores, such as slark / wraith king to make the fight last

The entire OG's idea is to use defensive supports to keep the cores alive so the cores can make 8 0 0 0 m m r plays. Disable the defensive support the cores will fail and/or act too aggro and feed.

I'm calling this, feel free to quote me in the future.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
December 01 2015 19:21 GMT
#212
On December 02 2015 04:04 evanthebouncy! wrote:
my prediction for OG's downfall:

Team will draft burst damage for OG's support (dazzle, wyvern)
Team will draft sustainable cores, such as slark / wraith king to make the fight last

The entire OG's idea is to use defensive supports to keep the cores alive so the cores can make 8 0 0 0 m m r plays. Disable the defensive support the cores will fail and/or act too aggro and feed.

I'm calling this, feel free to quote me in the future.


you cannot burst dazzle + wyvern.... they have spells that prevent it....wraith king is not a real hero , nor slark.... you need to outplay them which is possible , they arent god tier , they have the best form atm , thats for sure and play all the hot stuff in the patch really well with some alch/huskar/meepo if needed.
if there were such an easy solution as you state (draft solution to them) im sure PPD or PPY wouldve thought about it , they are 2 of the best drafters we ever had in this game.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
December 01 2015 19:23 GMT
#213
On November 29 2015 14:40 ASoo wrote:
Borrowing from the DH preview thread (since that's over):

Show nested quote +
On November 28 2015 02:01 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
On November 27 2015 14:20 goody153 wrote:
On November 27 2015 14:17 Julmust wrote:
On November 27 2015 13:01 yookstah wrote:
Surprised you didn't use "Original Gangstas" ;o

Meh, too easy!

Original Ganksta's !

Obese Gladiators
Online Gamblers
Oppressive Grandmothers
Only Gyrocopter
Outrageous Gonads
Overpriced Goods
Oh, Goody153

Obscure Guild-tag
Oy Gevalt
On Giraffes
Orcish Gangbangers
Obliterate Gerg
Oh, Grenada


OG is Original gangastars of course (like really thats what it means in the hiphop slang)
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9234 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 21:15:19
December 01 2015 21:13 GMT
#214
Just finished watching OG vs NaVi game 1 and im flabbergasted that miracle finds himself being the most farmed hero with a 13-10-xx performance.

On December 02 2015 04:21 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 04:04 evanthebouncy! wrote:
my prediction for OG's downfall:

Team will draft burst damage for OG's support (dazzle, wyvern)
Team will draft sustainable cores, such as slark / wraith king to make the fight last

The entire OG's idea is to use defensive supports to keep the cores alive so the cores can make 8 0 0 0 m m r plays. Disable the defensive support the cores will fail and/or act too aggro and feed.

I'm calling this, feel free to quote me in the future.


you cannot burst dazzle + wyvern.... they have spells that prevent it....wraith king is not a real hero , nor slark.... you need to outplay them which is possible , they arent god tier , they have the best form atm , thats for sure and play all the hot stuff in the patch really well with some alch/huskar/meepo if needed.
if there were such an easy solution as you state (draft solution to them) im sure PPD or PPY wouldve thought about it , they are 2 of the best drafters we ever had in this game.

PPD said during his dreamleague casting that he's ready for round 2
passive quaranstream fan
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
December 02 2015 00:32 GMT
#215
On December 02 2015 06:13 Artisreal wrote:
Just finished watching OG vs NaVi game 1 and im flabbergasted that miracle finds himself being the most farmed hero with a 13-10-xx performance.

Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 04:21 bluzi wrote:
On December 02 2015 04:04 evanthebouncy! wrote:
my prediction for OG's downfall:

Team will draft burst damage for OG's support (dazzle, wyvern)
Team will draft sustainable cores, such as slark / wraith king to make the fight last

The entire OG's idea is to use defensive supports to keep the cores alive so the cores can make 8 0 0 0 m m r plays. Disable the defensive support the cores will fail and/or act too aggro and feed.

I'm calling this, feel free to quote me in the future.


you cannot burst dazzle + wyvern.... they have spells that prevent it....wraith king is not a real hero , nor slark.... you need to outplay them which is possible , they arent god tier , they have the best form atm , thats for sure and play all the hot stuff in the patch really well with some alch/huskar/meepo if needed.
if there were such an easy solution as you state (draft solution to them) im sure PPD or PPY wouldve thought about it , they are 2 of the best drafters we ever had in this game.

PPD said during his dreamleague casting that he's ready for round 2


Shadow Fiend balanced hero.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11044 Posts
December 02 2015 03:13 GMT
#216
On December 02 2015 04:04 evanthebouncy! wrote:
my prediction for OG's downfall:

Team will draft burst damage for OG's support (dazzle, wyvern)
Team will draft sustainable cores, such as slark / wraith king to make the fight last

The entire OG's idea is to use defensive supports to keep the cores alive so the cores can make 8 0 0 0 m m r plays. Disable the defensive support the cores will fail and/or act too aggro and feed.

I'm calling this, feel free to quote me in the future.


That envy slark should have been enough.

T_T
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
December 02 2015 03:13 GMT
#217
On December 02 2015 04:21 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 04:04 evanthebouncy! wrote:
my prediction for OG's downfall:

Team will draft burst damage for OG's support (dazzle, wyvern)
Team will draft sustainable cores, such as slark / wraith king to make the fight last

The entire OG's idea is to use defensive supports to keep the cores alive so the cores can make 8 0 0 0 m m r plays. Disable the defensive support the cores will fail and/or act too aggro and feed.

I'm calling this, feel free to quote me in the future.


you cannot burst dazzle + wyvern


not saying it's definitive, but this is surely 1 way to burst lol

Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
December 02 2015 03:24 GMT
#218
On December 02 2015 12:13 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 04:04 evanthebouncy! wrote:
my prediction for OG's downfall:

Team will draft burst damage for OG's support (dazzle, wyvern)
Team will draft sustainable cores, such as slark / wraith king to make the fight last

The entire OG's idea is to use defensive supports to keep the cores alive so the cores can make 8 0 0 0 m m r plays. Disable the defensive support the cores will fail and/or act too aggro and feed.

I'm calling this, feel free to quote me in the future.


That envy slark should have been enough.

T_T


I followed the series very closely, if you look at the draft, it goes like this:

OG's defensive supports:
game1: dazzle, wyvern, tusk
game2: dazzle, wyvern
game3: tusk

Secret's carry:
game1: antimage
game2: slark
game3: wraithking

With each successive game, secret attempts to remove OG's defensive supports, while adjusting the carry to take longer fights.
Antimage's fighting time is over as soon as his health drops below a certain threshold, and he has to flee.
Slark can drop low, then disengage carefully to re-engage again soon
Wraithking straight up has 2 lives, it is the most fail-safe

Only at the 3rd game did secret manage to out-last OG in the fights, and manage to take a gain. However in game 4 OG just simply switch the draft around CDEC style, abandoning any of the 3 defensive supports and opt for rubik and lich instead.

As it stands, OG is still more comfortable playing the defensive supports, so that their tri-cores can be as aggro as they can, and have room for mistakes.

The weaklink also seem to be N0tail's sacrificial aggro trilane, he is often around or even below Moon in networth, and I wonder if this is a good trend or no. When he plays meepo is a different story, but when he plays gyro/pl offlane, he is often left piss poor and needs miracle to bridge the mid-game until he is relevant again. I wonder if the right approach is to prioritizing killing n0tail first in team fights, so he doesn't get shared bounty and become completely irrelevant.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
December 11 2015 02:22 GMT
#219
this is a quote
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 11 2015 04:20 GMT
#220
LOL.
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