On July 26 2014 10:48 DucK- wrote: I'm glad some people actually realised that vici wasn't playing their usual style. The first picks made them very all in from the start. They had little flexibility with no team fight heroes like doom or tide to play their backup late game morph strategies. All they basically had were summons and wards for pushing. It was a drafting disaster.
Everybody who saw the loser bracket and VG games knew that they were kinda off in the finals. Everybody who claims something else is just bitter that VG threw out their favorite. They didnt resort to their doom/tide picks for no apparent reason. They shouldnt have picked Veno more than once in that series >_> If DK falls apart i guess i might have to follow VG closer. They are pretty much my 2nd favorite team right now :D they played awesome
On July 26 2014 10:48 DucK- wrote: I'm glad some people actually realised that vici wasn't playing their usual style. The first picks made them very all in from the start. They had little flexibility with no team fight heroes like doom or tide to play their backup late game morph strategies. All they basically had were summons and wards for pushing. It was a drafting disaster.
Everybody who saw the loser bracket and VG games knew that they were kinda off in the finals. Everybody who claims something else is just bitter that VG threw out their favorite. They didnt resort to their doom/tide picks for no apparent reason. They shouldnt have picked Veno more than once in that series >_> If DK falls apart i guess i might have to follow VG closer. They are pretty much my 2nd favorite team right now :D they played awesome
Its more directed to those who claim that vici loss using the same aggressive push strategies they have been doing throughout the tournament.
@tangeng
Its different because vici had razor in those matches. Razor is a hero that allows you to win 1 lane and get quick mek, and generally solid to centre your pushes around.
Vici pretty much abandoned any backup plans of playing around a fat morph or something when they picked both prophet and veno.
On August 27 2014 03:21 Spriki wrote: Isn't Black quite fluent already? Well I thought he was since he stayed with CIS for so long
He probably doesn't have problems communicating in game. His Chinese skills out of game however, needs improvement. HIs accent is coming along nicely though.
On August 27 2014 04:40 cbk486 wrote: How good are super and black ? I only started playing and following dota during TI3, and so I've only managed to catch a few games of theirs.
Super doesn't get that much recognition, but he's easily one of the best mids in China. The opinions you'll get on Black will range somewhere between 'fucking terrible' and 'the next Burning'.
On August 27 2014 04:40 cbk486 wrote: How good are super and black ? I only started playing and following dota during TI3, and so I've only managed to catch a few games of theirs.
Black is very good. He basically took a Chinese B-team and solo dragged them to a second place in the Chinese TI4 qualifiers, even managing to take a few games off of LGD (which nobody else managed). They did horribly in the main event because visa issues prevented the team from practicing for around a month leading up to the event.
But don't ask me. Ask Vici, who (as much as I hated their TI4 playstyle) has some of the most talented players on the scene. They seem to think he's the best carry available.
Black is undoubtedly very good at certain aspects of the game, however he has yet to deliver results wise and some of his ex team-mates have criticised him for being limited so he still has to prove he deserves the 'western burning' title. He also comes across as one of the nicest guys in the scene, definitely someone worth rooting for.
On August 27 2014 04:40 cbk486 wrote: How good are super and black ? I only started playing and following dota during TI3, and so I've only managed to catch a few games of theirs.
I never thought very highly of Black^ during his Mouz days but he must be developing into something if Tier 1 Chinese teams are taking him. If the Chinese pros are taking him in as one of their own then he definitely has shown them something a lot of the western world hasn't seen yet.
He is a feel good and inspirational story for sure though; leaving everything behind and going to a foreign place without speaking the language in a team environment is not something easy to do.
Go VG! Hopefully IceIceIce can win it for this year's DK at TI5
I wonder who will be their new captain. Super has been on VG for longest, iceiceice has said he wants to be a captain and supports have the natural spot for captaincy. I don't think black will take over the C because he is foreigner and as i watched the VG documentary it seemed like fy/super/fenrir arent very vocal players, but then again who could go vocal with rOtk.
On August 27 2014 07:47 suxN wrote: I wonder who will be their new captain. Super has been on VG for longest, iceiceice has said he wants to be a captain and supports have the natural spot for captaincy. I don't think black will take over the C because he is foreigner and as i watched the VG documentary it seemed like fy/super/fenrir arent very vocal players, but then again who could go vocal with rOtk.
My guess is iceiceice will be their captain.
Fenrir and Fy were on the inaugural VG team, and Fenrir was the captain from the beginning till rOtK joined. He's also the oldest (1989) of the group. So I wouldn't be surprised if Fenrir returns to being the captain.