Thing about vici is that they kept forcing the push strategies without factoring the enemy team. Its so all in because they kept going for lineups with shitty teamfights in favour of pushing heroes. Its almost like they got too caught up with their recent pushing successes, and forgot the fundamentals of how they drafted.
They forgot that tide and doom are heroes they used to favour. They gave too much priority to obtaining prophet. Everything about their draft approach today was not the usual Vici.
I don't even think vici push strat comes from mass summons or wards like they used today. It comes from pugna/razor/ld/dp, with dk/prophet/rhasta/veno picked to complement it. They lacked the core heroes for their pushes today, and getting veno/prophet so early meant they cannot execute their backup weaver/morphing strategies well because they just don't have team fight.
I'm totally okay with second for Rotk, fy, and pals, considering that going into the event I thought it was a tossup whether they'd even make the main event.
On July 23 2014 23:32 cbk486 wrote: All these posters in /r/dota2 saying that Vici didn't deserve second place make me sad
People who say things like that, whether they're fans of dota, hockey, football, or another game, are just bitter. VG deserved second place; you can tell because they got second place.
On July 23 2014 23:32 cbk486 wrote: All these posters in /r/dota2 saying that Vici didn't deserve second place make me sad
People who say things like that, whether they're fans of dota, hockey, football, or another game, are just bitter. VG deserved second place; you can tell because they got second place.
It's just depressing b/c vici executed very well all tournament but then they say the team is total shit because of the finals - and that's all anyone will remember them for.
Could someone kindly translate this video? It was just posted on reddit.
At around 0:30 rOtk: we can reflect on this. Super: let's not do this right now. --- 0:34 Super: Our preparations... our preparations and the game-- We should have changed our tactics. --- 0:47 rOtk: In this scenario, we had morphling viper. That counts as dual core. We should have broken through with dual core. --- 0:54 rOtK: we have relied on this "thing" to play, and we lost because of this thing. (It was vague what rOtk was talking about). Super: We lost like this... this is so.. (sigh). The feeling of helplessness is too strong. I feel so helpless as I played. --- 1:22 Fy: we'll play again next year.
That's a pretty rough translation. Thanks to my friends kdgns for clarifying what heroes rOtk was talking about at 0:47.
Could someone kindly translate this video? It was just posted on reddit.
At around 0:30 rOtk: we can reflect on this. Super: let's not do this right now. --- 0:34 Super: Our preparations... our preparations and the game-- We should have changed our tactics. --- 0:47 rOtk: In this scenario, we had morphling viper. That counts as dual core. We should have broken through with dual core. --- 0:54 rOtK: we have relied on this "thing" to play, and we lost because of this thing. (It was vague what rOtk was talking about). Super: We lost like this... this is so.. (sigh). The feeling of helplessness is too strong. I feel so helpless as I played. --- 1:22 Fy: we'll play again next year.
That's a pretty rough translation. Thanks to my friends kdgns for clarifying what heroes rOtk was talking about at 0:47.
Vici peaked at the right time. Now they know their potential - they shouldn't be afraid to try and go beyond that. They're a young team, relatively, they have a lot more to give.
VG's greatest strength is that their execution is top notch and decision-making is self-professed 60-40. They are willing to take risks and but are pushing the limits of play. That is pure awesome.
If they can expand on their range of strategies then they would will be hard to beat and exciting to watch.
In the group stages and most of the playoffs, it was "We will kill you under your tower and then kill your tower. If that fails, we will fall back on farmed Morphling and try to win late."
On July 26 2014 05:27 B1nary wrote: They played amazingly until the finals.
In the group stages and most of the playoffs, it was "We will kill you under your tower and then kill your tower. If that fails, we will fall back on farmed Morphling and try to win late."
During the finals, it was "KLIL THE TOEWERS!!!"
yeah i always had faith in sylar's morph. it was incredibly strong and whenever he played morph their late game is solid.
I'm glad some people actually realised that vici wasn't playing their usual style. The first picks made them very all in from the start. They had little flexibility with no team fight heroes like doom or tide to play their backup late game morph strategies. All they basically had were summons and wards for pushing. It was a drafting disaster.
EPT
