EPTI don't know what kind of issues they have, but i hope they will fix them and come stronger by the next major/tournament.
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VvvV1251
Algeria142 Posts
I don't know what kind of issues they have, but i hope they will fix them and come stronger by the next major/tournament. | ||
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goody153
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On March 03 2016 02:11 spudde123 wrote: Time for Secret.iceiceice! not if zai gets there first ! | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Whatever it is, VG is not alone, I always wanted west to be better but this is just a disaster | ||
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qqMagnuz
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CxWiLL
China830 Posts
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lphwo
Malaysia751 Posts
On March 03 2016 02:11 spudde123 wrote: Time for Secret.iceiceice! Even if Secret wanted to have a roster change, which they won't, iceiceice has a fairly serious girlfriend in China so I doubt he will leave China. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
the rumored roster is : Rotk , Cty , BurNing , Kaka + 1 | ||
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Ultimo Hombre
Australia1436 Posts
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shad2810
Malaysia2682 Posts
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Evander Berry Wall
United States1137 Posts
That rather general preamble about China brings me to this supposed lineup. It doesn't impress me, even assuming things aren't so bad for China. I think rOtK has actually been a pretty great captain overall, in spite of what happened in Shanghai. He's always been shakier as an actual player. Cty is probably one of the best, if not the best mids in China right now, barring some here-to-fore unknown pub star. When rOtK and Cty were on EHOME together they did better than I think anyone was really giving them credit to do. The rest, though... Look, Burning is overrated. I don't want to be a dick, but I just can't see how he isn't. I can't see why this lineup would do any better than the average squad with Burning it. Adding Kaka to that mix really doesn't help. Kaka is the one guy that I always forget is on EHOME. Supposedly he has some awesome MMR. I don't know, maybe support isn't the role for him, but this lineup wouldn't appear to give him a chance to do anything else. We don't know who the other person is, except that we know it isn't iceiceice, Fy, or Fenrir. Is it supposed to be somebody better than those players? Who? VG without the support duo is almost unimaginable, and I've never felt that the team's low points were because of them. Seriously, just yesterday I was thinking about who'd be the first person I'd kick from VG, and I decided it was Burning (but maybe Super), and now I see this possibility that he is literally the only person not kicked. I hope it's misinformation. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On March 07 2016 20:57 Evander Berry Wall wrote: I know everyone is down on the Chinese players right now because of the results at the major, but even in spite of a general trend of issues for China, this event was singularly and unpredictably bad, so I'm only letting it effect my view of Chinese teams so much. I haven't forgotten that the EHOME who went out in a 12-9 spot this tournament 3-0d EG in a grand finals in the prior LAN. That rather general preamble about China brings me to this supposed lineup. It doesn't impress me, even assuming things aren't so bad for China. I think rOtK has actually been a pretty great captain overall, in spite of what happened in Shanghai. He's always been shakier as an actual player. Cty is probably one of the best, if not the best mids in China right now, barring some here-to-fore unknown pub star. When rOtK and Cty were on EHOME together they did better than I think anyone was really giving them credit to do. The rest, though... Look, Burning is overrated. I don't want to be a dick, but I just can't see how he isn't. I can't see why this lineup would do any better than the average squad with Burning it. Adding Kaka to that mix really doesn't help. Kaka is the one guy that I always forget is on EHOME. Supposedly he has some awesome MMR. I don't know, maybe support isn't the role for him, but this lineup wouldn't appear to give him a chance to do anything else. We don't know who the other person is, except that we know it isn't iceiceice, Fy, or Fenrir. Is it supposed to be somebody better than those players? Who? VG without the support duo is almost unimaginable, and I've never felt that the team's low points were because of them. Seriously, just yesterday I was thinking about who'd be the first person I'd kick from VG, and I decided it was Burning (but maybe Super), and now I see this possibility that he is literally the only person not kicked. I hope it's misinformation. The only answer to that is competent drafter which VG lacked entire time.It felt like fy or super had no knowledge of meta (i agree with swindle on this) and just drafted whatever the heck they are good at without considering the meta..while it's sad ,very sad to see fy and fenrir leave VG and break up,i am really happy that fy is choosing to team up with Zyf ..i don't agree with your thoughts on BurNing so won't go into that territory. and last player won't be anyone from ice3 ,fy or fenrir as fenrir and ice3 are going to ehome while fy is going to VG.P squad.and regarding whom they first kicked,it was going to be super ..i don't see a reason why they will continue to kick carry players millionth time from their team. i am not sure how can u shift the blame for VG's downfall over 1 player by scapegoating when they all 5 together looked like epitome of no teamwork. btw,u are not the one to deicide who getting kicked tho :D. and this rumor is coming from chinese inner circles which sometimes becomes true ,everyone is giving thumbs down to this VG roster (if it is real) already.so it will only be upward way if this roster is indeed true.i think people should atleast wait for them competing before passing judgements. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On March 07 2016 20:39 Ultimo Hombre wrote: That... seems pretty rubbish actually. Hopefully its not true. will you change your support from team if this is true? because ice3 ,fy and fenrir leaving the team is pretty much confirmed at this point | ||
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goody153
44280 Posts
Yeah the loss of fy+ fenrir is kinda a bitch if this rumor is correct. I always thought that the strongest strength of VG was their support duo. On the rumoured LGD roster seems like the strong one. Agressif + Maybe + xz + xiao8 + mmy I don't how good xz is but the other 4 are certainly really good. I think this is some kind of allstar stuff | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On March 07 2016 21:28 goody153 wrote: I'm not a burning fan (nor am I a chinese dota fan) but i thought burning was consistent with his role. Yeah the loss of fy+ fenrir is kinda a bitch if this rumor is correct. I always thought that the strongest strength of VG was their support duo. The rumoured LGD roster seems like the strong one. yea,that new rumored LGD roster is pretty good on paper | ||
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goody153
44280 Posts
Who's the best offlaner from the eastern scene ? | ||
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shad2810
Malaysia2682 Posts
On March 07 2016 21:33 goody153 wrote: Yeah i can see it as a chinese all-star lineup kinda like Secret 2.0 china version. Man i wish this rumor was true and if the team has good cohesion i can see azarkon sweating. Who's the best offlaner from the eastern scene ? I would say XZ or old eleven in my honest opinion. Luo is pretty shit. 2lei is alright, i guess. Iceiceice, well no comment. So that's left Rotk, old eleven and xz. Which I believe Old eleven or xz is the best offlaner of the scene. | ||
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goody153
44280 Posts
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shad2810
Malaysia2682 Posts
On March 07 2016 21:38 goody153 wrote: Oh boy the chinese offlaner pool is small if ROTK made it to the list. I might think Sala can play it seeing that his a 8k mmr player from china. | ||
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LennX
4570 Posts
On March 07 2016 21:38 goody153 wrote: Oh boy the chinese offlaner pool is small if ROTK made it to the list. he is China best offlaner... which aint saying a lot lol | ||
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Ultimo Hombre
Australia1436 Posts
On March 07 2016 21:23 Kamisamanachi wrote: will you change your support from team if this is true? because ice3 ,fy and fenrir leaving the team is pretty much confirmed at this point Yeah, ill prolly switch to VG.P so I dont need to change flairs :D VG without fy/fenrir is just weird. Its also weird considering theyve always been a strong point of VG all the way back to when the team was formed with ZSMJ, sydm etc. Maybe they just want to get away from each other after playing together for so long. The new Ehome and LGD lineups look great on paper though. | ||
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