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On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote: I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5.
1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is.
2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins.
3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence.
4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team.
TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14.
not bad..guess CDEC was the chinese dream team
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i didn't mean to harp on secret that much. It's a difficult position being perceived as the best team and everyone trying to figure you out into the tournament.
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Well you are not wrong about working and improving as a team rather than replacing members like parts of a machine. Like replacing a member should always be a last option just if ever a team hit a wall already and/or they needed a breath of fresh air.
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On August 10 2015 14:40 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote: I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5.
1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is.
2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins.
3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence.
4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team.
TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14. not bad..guess CDEC was the chinese dream team 
This man is a prophet! Except Secret bombed.
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It's been a few days and nothing has surfaced about the annual post-TI shuffle. Do you guys think that epic lower bracket run might mean VG won't be changing things up before the next major?
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On August 11 2015 04:20 buhhy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2015 14:40 Doraemon wrote:On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote: I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5.
1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is.
2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins.
3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence.
4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team.
TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14. not bad..guess CDEC was the chinese dream team  This man is a prophet! Except Secret bombed.
He did that on purpose. Inaccuracies lowers detection by the Timelords.
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On August 13 2015 21:13 syw651 wrote: It's been a few days and nothing has surfaced about the annual post-TI shuffle. Do you guys think that epic lower bracket run might mean VG won't be changing things up before the next major? iceiceice is apparently off the VG ingame roster
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On August 14 2015 00:10 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 21:13 syw651 wrote: It's been a few days and nothing has surfaced about the annual post-TI shuffle. Do you guys think that epic lower bracket run might mean VG won't be changing things up before the next major? iceiceice is apparently off the VG ingame roster
he's on Zenith's roster, always has been, reddit kneejerking per usual
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On August 11 2015 04:20 buhhy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2015 14:40 Doraemon wrote:On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote: I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5.
1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is.
2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins.
3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence.
4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team.
TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14. not bad..guess CDEC was the chinese dream team  This man is a prophet! Except Secret bombed.
:D
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pretty sure ice3's stream said something about VG in the title when I watched this morning but I was barely awake maybe I'm imagining things
he definitely used the VG tusk sigil but who doesn't lol
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iceiceice said on his stream that he will be at Puppey's house today for some discussion.. are we seeing Secret.iceiceice? owner of Secret also said ice3 could be a potential replacement for Zai since Zai may go back studying.
edit: not sure if ice3 is trolling on stream (and typo lol, had Navi instead of Secret..)
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On August 14 2015 03:06 eieio wrote: pretty sure ice3's stream said something about VG in the title when I watched this morning but I was barely awake maybe I'm imagining things
he definitely used the VG tusk sigil but who doesn't lol Maybe iceiceice took the VG sigil off tusk cause he has PTSD from all the times they lost to their own sigil in the group stages
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ice3 no please don't leave!
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On August 10 2015 14:40 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote: I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5.
1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is.
2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins.
3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence.
4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team.
TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14. not bad..guess CDEC was the chinese dream team  It supposed to be warning, not prophesy.
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On August 14 2015 23:21 BoesFX wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2015 14:40 Doraemon wrote:On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote: I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5.
1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is.
2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins.
3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence.
4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team.
TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14. not bad..guess CDEC was the chinese dream team  It supposed to be warning, not prophesy.
Nah. At that point in time, the post was written as a prediction of what would happen. I think I got some elements right :D
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VG needs a strong leader like rotk in TI4 or else they will remain the "slightly worse than LGD and CDEC" chinese team for a long time.
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On August 18 2015 04:00 ref4 wrote: VG needs a strong leader like rotk in TI4 or else they will remain the "slightly worse than LGD and CDEC" chinese team for a long time.
They didn't have rotk yet they were comfortably the best team in the first half of the season.
I am of course supportive of relieving fy from drafting duties because he seemed to have run out of ideas.
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any idea where 3ice is going? was watching his strim but he was very reluctant to answer questions like "r u leaving vg" or "r u going to america". any guesses?
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With burning joining vg, I have a feeling he's staying.
Meaning I won't have to change flairs this year.
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On August 23 2015 20:06 rebdomine wrote: With burning joining vg, I have a feeling he's staying.
Meaning I won't have to change flairs this year. Do you have a source for that? And did they kick Hao or did Hao choose to leave?
If they did make changes, I was hoping they would get a big personality, like RotK cause I feel like that's what the team needs right now.
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