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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-10 05:41:16
August 10 2015 05:40 GMT
#721
On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote:
I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5.

1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is.

2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins.

3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence.

4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team.

TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14.


not bad..guess CDEC was the chinese dream team
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 10 2015 05:42 GMT
#722
i didn't mean to harp on secret that much.
It's a difficult position being perceived as the best team and everyone trying to figure you out into the tournament.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44202 Posts
August 10 2015 05:49 GMT
#723
Well you are not wrong about working and improving as a team rather than replacing members like parts of a machine. Like replacing a member should always be a last option just if ever a team hit a wall already and/or they needed a breath of fresh air.

this is a quote
buhhy
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1113 Posts
August 10 2015 19:20 GMT
#724
On August 10 2015 14:40 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote:
I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5.

1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is.

2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins.

3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence.

4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team.

TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14.


not bad..guess CDEC was the chinese dream team


This man is a prophet! Except Secret bombed.
syw651
Profile Joined April 2014
Australia349 Posts
August 13 2015 12:13 GMT
#725
It's been a few days and nothing has surfaced about the annual post-TI shuffle. Do you guys think that epic lower bracket run might mean VG won't be changing things up before the next major?
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
August 13 2015 12:55 GMT
#726
On August 11 2015 04:20 buhhy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 14:40 Doraemon wrote:
On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote:
I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5.

1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is.

2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins.

3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence.

4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team.

TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14.


not bad..guess CDEC was the chinese dream team


This man is a prophet! Except Secret bombed.



He did that on purpose. Inaccuracies lowers detection by the Timelords.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
August 13 2015 15:10 GMT
#727
On August 13 2015 21:13 syw651 wrote:
It's been a few days and nothing has surfaced about the annual post-TI shuffle. Do you guys think that epic lower bracket run might mean VG won't be changing things up before the next major?

iceiceice is apparently off the VG ingame roster
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Azimuth
Profile Joined April 2015
231 Posts
August 13 2015 15:49 GMT
#728
On August 14 2015 00:10 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 21:13 syw651 wrote:
It's been a few days and nothing has surfaced about the annual post-TI shuffle. Do you guys think that epic lower bracket run might mean VG won't be changing things up before the next major?

iceiceice is apparently off the VG ingame roster


he's on Zenith's roster, always has been, reddit kneejerking per usual
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 13 2015 15:51 GMT
#729
On August 11 2015 04:20 buhhy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 14:40 Doraemon wrote:
On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote:
I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5.

1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is.

2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins.

3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence.

4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team.

TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14.


not bad..guess CDEC was the chinese dream team


This man is a prophet! Except Secret bombed.


:D
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
August 13 2015 18:06 GMT
#730
pretty sure ice3's stream said something about VG in the title when I watched this morning but I was barely awake maybe I'm imagining things

he definitely used the VG tusk sigil but who doesn't lol
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kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-14 08:25:17
August 14 2015 05:36 GMT
#731
iceiceice said on his stream that he will be at Puppey's house today for some discussion.. are we seeing Secret.iceiceice? owner of Secret also said ice3 could be a potential replacement for Zai since Zai may go back studying.

edit: not sure if ice3 is trolling on stream (and typo lol, had Navi instead of Secret..)
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
syw651
Profile Joined April 2014
Australia349 Posts
August 14 2015 13:12 GMT
#732
On August 14 2015 03:06 eieio wrote:
pretty sure ice3's stream said something about VG in the title when I watched this morning but I was barely awake maybe I'm imagining things

he definitely used the VG tusk sigil but who doesn't lol

Maybe iceiceice took the VG sigil off tusk cause he has PTSD from all the times they lost to their own sigil in the group stages
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
August 14 2015 13:14 GMT
#733
ice3 no please don't leave!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1456 Posts
August 14 2015 14:21 GMT
#734
On August 10 2015 14:40 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote:
I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5.

1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is.

2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins.

3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence.

4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team.

TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14.


not bad..guess CDEC was the chinese dream team

It supposed to be warning, not prophesy.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 16 2015 10:58 GMT
#735
On August 14 2015 23:21 BoesFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 14:40 Doraemon wrote:
On December 08 2014 19:06 DucK- wrote:
I think vici is the best team in the world now. But here is what's going to happen till ti5.

1. Chinese tournaments are going to start and the Chinese will develop their own meta initially inspired from western scene. The meta will be flawed compared to the west, but those flaws will be ignored because Chinese players are generally more skilled and will make their meta appear better than what it is.

2. Vici drafter will be under pressure from coaches and peers to conform to the Chinese meta instead of drafting what has been working for them. Their performances will deteoriate and the slump begins.

3. They finally decide to ignore the meta and start drafting to their strengths. There will be a resurgence.

4. In ti5 they will again go conservative and follow the meta. They will do badly, wake up and revert their drafts back again, and finish 4th after EG, Secret, and a new Chinese dream team.

TL;DR, Vici 2014/15 will do a DK 2013/14.


not bad..guess CDEC was the chinese dream team

It supposed to be warning, not prophesy.


Nah. At that point in time, the post was written as a prediction of what would happen. I think I got some elements right :D
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
August 17 2015 19:00 GMT
#736
VG needs a strong leader like rotk in TI4 or else they will remain the "slightly worse than LGD and CDEC" chinese team for a long time.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 17 2015 19:02 GMT
#737
On August 18 2015 04:00 ref4 wrote:
VG needs a strong leader like rotk in TI4 or else they will remain the "slightly worse than LGD and CDEC" chinese team for a long time.


They didn't have rotk yet they were comfortably the best team in the first half of the season.

I am of course supportive of relieving fy from drafting duties because he seemed to have run out of ideas.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 21 2015 11:26 GMT
#738
any idea where 3ice is going?
was watching his strim but he was very reluctant to answer questions like "r u leaving vg" or "r u going to america".
any guesses?
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
August 23 2015 11:06 GMT
#739
With burning joining vg, I have a feeling he's staying.

Meaning I won't have to change flairs this year.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
syw651
Profile Joined April 2014
Australia349 Posts
August 23 2015 11:12 GMT
#740
On August 23 2015 20:06 rebdomine wrote:
With burning joining vg, I have a feeling he's staying.

Meaning I won't have to change flairs this year.

Do you have a source for that? And did they kick Hao or did Hao choose to leave?

If they did make changes, I was hoping they would get a big personality, like RotK cause I feel like that's what the team needs right now.
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