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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 20 2015 15:28 GMT
#641
fy please draft
:)
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
June 20 2015 16:55 GMT
#642
On June 21 2015 00:02 evanthebouncy! wrote:
6.83, huge rubberbands, late game sniper n shit seems so strong.
VG goes full out aggro and is claimed best team in the world

6.84, more kill gold for supports, less rubber bands, and fighting lineup seems so strong.
VG goes very suck.

discuss?


More like 6.84: 6 weeks, 5 LANs, 3 countries
China ---> Germany ---> USA ---> China ---> Germany

I think they have spent more time on planes in 6.84 than practicing and adjusting to new patch. This patch was bigger than usual too with so many new items.

Pretty sure they changed drafters to freshen things up since they were running off old ideas anyways.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
June 21 2015 06:32 GMT
#643
gg VG pls buck up
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
Valhalla44
Profile Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
June 21 2015 07:01 GMT
#644
Seems DK 2014 all over again. (
kRooKster
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia21 Posts
June 21 2015 08:26 GMT
#645
I really hope they start boot camping for TI5 and start owning soon!
BillGates
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
471 Posts
June 21 2015 17:05 GMT
#646
But, but I thought Hao was supposed to make them better and have them win more tournaments!!??

This easily shows how changing just one player can have profound impact and not always positive one.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
June 21 2015 17:48 GMT
#647
On June 22 2015 02:05 BillGates wrote:
But, but I thought Hao was supposed to make them better and have them win more tournaments!!??

This easily shows how changing just one player can have profound impact and not always positive one.


Hao's probably just speaking the wrong kind of chinese. I'm sure once they fix the communication problem everything will be fine.
LiquidDota Staff
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
June 21 2015 22:03 GMT
#648
On June 22 2015 02:48 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 02:05 BillGates wrote:
But, but I thought Hao was supposed to make them better and have them win more tournaments!!??

This easily shows how changing just one player can have profound impact and not always positive one.


Hao's probably just speaking the wrong kind of chinese. I'm sure once they fix the communication problem everything will be fine.

I feel like this post has more salt than the dead sea.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
June 21 2015 22:12 GMT
#649
On June 22 2015 02:48 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2015 02:05 BillGates wrote:
But, but I thought Hao was supposed to make them better and have them win more tournaments!!??

This easily shows how changing just one player can have profound impact and not always positive one.


Hao's probably just speaking the wrong kind of chinese. I'm sure once they fix the communication problem everything will be fine.

hahaha awesome
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 21 2015 22:14 GMT
#650
On June 22 2015 02:05 BillGates wrote:
But, but I thought Hao was supposed to make them better and have them win more tournaments!!??

This easily shows how changing just one player can have profound impact and not always positive one.

the patch has more to do with it than anything else. i cant believe people are still salty about this
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
June 21 2015 22:53 GMT
#651
VG got better after the trade and prior to the patch. That's why even after so many losses in the new patch their Elo (or whatever joinDota has) is still pretty high. Unfortunately, bringing in Hao also means bringing a new chef into the kitchen, and they're suffering from too many cooks syndrome. While I'm a little frustrated with their recent performance, as I'm sure most fans would be given their success the past year, there's still plenty of time before TI. Last year's VG also bombed out of ESL before making a deep run at TI4.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44306 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 23:47:35
June 21 2015 23:46 GMT
#652
On June 22 2015 02:05 BillGates wrote:
But, but I thought Hao was supposed to make them better and have them win more tournaments!!??

This easily shows how changing just one player can have profound impact and not always positive one.

Hao is clearly an upgrade to black. It's quite obvious even if black was still here they'd still probably lose or maybe place even worst and not win some tournaments.
this is a quote
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 22 2015 00:06 GMT
#653
They just need to draft better. Hope the break before TI will do them some good.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44306 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 08:35:39
June 22 2015 08:12 GMT
#654


Interviewer asking iceiceice if this was an experiment or they are hiding strats.

"we are not hiding anything. We are just bad . Secret and EG are just better."
this is a quote
syw651
Profile Joined April 2014
Australia349 Posts
June 22 2015 08:58 GMT
#655
On June 22 2015 17:12 goody153 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR4Kpox9kmE

Interviewer asking iceiceice if this was an experiment or they are hiding strats.

"we are not hiding anything. We are just bad . Secret and EG are just better."

If you where hiding strats, would you admit publically that you where hiding strats?

Alternatively, admitting it is the first step to getting fired up and turning it all around!
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
June 22 2015 10:41 GMT
#656
I feel like Hao has definitely been a huge improvement. His Phantom Lancer in particular is just so awesome. I think if they can step up communication they will do well. Still don't see them beating secret though
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
June 22 2015 20:15 GMT
#657
"Even though you want to win everything, we can afford to lose any tournament besides TI. So, we are trying things out."

That's what happens when a tourney gets 15M prize pool and others just 500K.
There is no fate, but what we make.
shouldbeworking
Profile Joined October 2014
946 Posts
June 23 2015 02:49 GMT
#658
Must be scary when you're trying things out and it fails miserably so close to TI. While Secret running heros like techies and BS vs TI invites with success.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 23 2015 04:06 GMT
#659
Well if anything, last year's VG team showed us you could be struggling in the month leading to TI and then suddenly show up and start wrecking faces.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-23 06:18:05
June 23 2015 06:16 GMT
#660
it mostly comes down to the drafting. they're one step behind in the meta and it shows, still drafting wisp for themselves when western teams have shown that they can counter the hero if it comes out early. VG's wisp play isnt even that crisp, certainly not any good compared to their dual roam
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
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