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5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
August 23 2016 04:54 GMT
#2421
On August 23 2016 12:25 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2016 12:04 5-s wrote:
On August 23 2016 10:53 Chewbacca. wrote:
Alex Garfield is out apparently.

Alex out, old man and captain out, big changes are coming.


huh?

Let's just say things will be too ez for new eg
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 23 2016 18:12 GMT
#2422
On August 23 2016 13:54 5-s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2016 12:25 emperorchampion wrote:
On August 23 2016 12:04 5-s wrote:
On August 23 2016 10:53 Chewbacca. wrote:
Alex Garfield is out apparently.

Alex out, old man and captain out, big changes are coming.


huh?

Let's just say things will be too ez for new eg


HA i would be shocked
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
August 23 2016 21:51 GMT
#2423
On August 24 2016 03:12 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2016 13:54 5-s wrote:
On August 23 2016 12:25 emperorchampion wrote:
On August 23 2016 12:04 5-s wrote:
On August 23 2016 10:53 Chewbacca. wrote:
Alex Garfield is out apparently.

Alex out, old man and captain out, big changes are coming.


huh?

Let's just say things will be too ez for new eg


HA i would be shocked

Prepare your body then, and your twitch subscriptions.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
common_cider
Profile Joined July 2011
342 Posts
August 24 2016 01:17 GMT
#2424
EG's current roster is already capable of being the best in the world.

However, to create a roster capable of all time greatness, You replace summail with Miracle. You replace Universe with faith_bian.

Summail and Universe are not only 2 of the best players in the world, they are also great people and teammates. However the 2 players i Mentioned are simply more versatile, dynamic and great.
Never eat at a chinese restraunt located by the pound
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 24 2016 02:32 GMT
#2425
On August 24 2016 10:17 common_cider wrote:
EG's current roster is already capable of being the best in the world.

However, to create a roster capable of all time greatness, You replace summail with Miracle. You replace Universe with faith_bian.

Summail and Universe are not only 2 of the best players in the world, they are also great people and teammates. However the 2 players i Mentioned are simply more versatile, dynamic and great.

Not to say faith_bian isn't gonna last but realistically speaking he's only been top tier over the past couple of months before/after TI. Universe has been consistently one of the best offlaners over the past 2-3 years.

Though totally agree on Miracle > Sumail
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
August 24 2016 03:53 GMT
#2426
On August 24 2016 10:17 common_cider wrote:
EG's current roster is already capable of being the best in the world.

However, to create a roster capable of all time greatness, You replace summail with Miracle. You replace Universe with faith_bian.

Summail and Universe are not only 2 of the best players in the world, they are also great people and teammates. However the 2 players i Mentioned are simply more versatile, dynamic and great.

This might be the case if team dynamics and communication wasn't a thing. However, it pretty much is everything, so this will never happen.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
August 24 2016 04:02 GMT
#2427
On August 24 2016 11:32 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2016 10:17 common_cider wrote:
EG's current roster is already capable of being the best in the world.

However, to create a roster capable of all time greatness, You replace summail with Miracle. You replace Universe with faith_bian.

Summail and Universe are not only 2 of the best players in the world, they are also great people and teammates. However the 2 players i Mentioned are simply more versatile, dynamic and great.

Not to say faith_bian isn't gonna last but realistically speaking he's only been top tier over the past couple of months before/after TI. Universe has been consistently one of the best offlaners over the past 2-3 years.

Though totally agree on Miracle > Sumail


Meh, sumail 1 TI wins > Miracle 0 TI wins
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
common_cider
Profile Joined July 2011
342 Posts
August 24 2016 05:27 GMT
#2428
On August 24 2016 11:32 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2016 10:17 common_cider wrote:
EG's current roster is already capable of being the best in the world.

However, to create a roster capable of all time greatness, You replace summail with Miracle. You replace Universe with faith_bian.

Summail and Universe are not only 2 of the best players in the world, they are also great people and teammates. However the 2 players i Mentioned are simply more versatile, dynamic and great.

Not to say faith_bian isn't gonna last but realistically speaking he's only been top tier over the past couple of months before/after TI. Universe has been consistently one of the best offlaners over the past 2-3 years.

Though totally agree on Miracle > Sumail


Skill wise universe may be better than faith_bian, but the patches are trending away from his playstyle. ENvy, Arteezy, and universe have lost value with each patch. Universe much less so than rtz and envy, but still has lost a little. Faith_bian only a slight upgrade. Still faith_bian and maybe could be the 2 best players in China atm. Plus Faith_bian future looks so sick.

Miracle biggest advantage over Summail is his versatility. He has a wider hero pool plus can play a lot of safelane. When we have a 100 hero pool depth patch, miracle is very valuable.

I want to reiterate that Summail and Universe have a reputation for being ideal teammates and great people.

It just looks like 4/5 zai ppd may be alltime great 1 fear is so versatile and is alltime great. Round that out with 2/3 Miracle, Faithbian, you have dynasty roster. ALl the players are so versatile that they are immune to any future patch.
Never eat at a chinese restraunt located by the pound
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6230 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 05:46:58
August 24 2016 05:43 GMT
#2429
I mean suggesting faith_bian is just full-on pointless theorycrafting. That's nonsense and would never happen. Miracle is slightly more likely but still based on nothing.

The rtz rumour, on the other hand, is just stupid enough to be real. If EG really takes him back for a third time, they deserve the tire fire he'll bring.

Personally I'm hoping they change very little. The TI6 squad could have been perfect with a bit more time together.
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 05:52:19
August 24 2016 05:49 GMT
#2430
Zai and Universe are staying in EG according to Moon. Rest of roster not confirmed.

EDIT According to Reso, unless he trolling, EG.Arteezy and EG.Cr1t ROFL
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
August 24 2016 05:52 GMT
#2431
On August 24 2016 14:49 Birdie wrote:
Zai and Universe are staying in EG according to Moon. Rest of roster not confirmed.

https://twitter.com/resolut1on_?lang=en-gb

so eg.crit and eg.rtz, fear+ppd out?
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
August 24 2016 06:09 GMT
#2432
On August 24 2016 14:52 Nymzee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2016 14:49 Birdie wrote:
Zai and Universe are staying in EG according to Moon. Rest of roster not confirmed.

https://twitter.com/resolut1on_?lang=en-gb

so eg.crit and eg.rtz, fear+ppd out?


Dunno why you'd ever get rid of Fear, unless he wants to take a break from Dota. Or PPD, unless there will be two EG teams, which is what someone is speculating.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
August 24 2016 06:19 GMT
#2433
Fear's taking a break due to his injury.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 06:55:34
August 24 2016 06:44 GMT
#2434
Jesus Christ, if EG.Arteezy is true, I will lose all respect for him. (and PPD if he continues as captain after Arteezy is let in). He behaves like that yo-yo girlfriend/boyfriend who cheats on you every now and then with an ex, but then cries and wants to come back to you afterwards.

On the other hand I think if PPD is kicked, EG will no longer be relevant. None of them are leadership material, except maybe cr1t, who I think has never captained before either. Zai had a terrible period captaining/drafting in Secret 2.0 during starladder where they lost every single game. Arteezy/Sumail captaincy = lul. Universe also strikes me as the silent type who is more suited to follow orders and make big plays, rather than being someone who directs the action.
Envy fan since NTH.
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
August 24 2016 07:17 GMT
#2435
On August 24 2016 15:44 Piledriver wrote:
Jesus Christ, if EG.Arteezy is true, I will lose all respect for him. (and PPD if he continues as captain after Arteezy is let in). He behaves like that yo-yo girlfriend/boyfriend who cheats on you every now and then with an ex, but then cries and wants to come back to you afterwards.

On the other hand I think if PPD is kicked, EG will no longer be relevant. None of them are leadership material, except maybe cr1t, who I think has never captained before either. Zai had a terrible period captaining/drafting in Secret 2.0 during starladder where they lost every single game. Arteezy/Sumail captaincy = lul. Universe also strikes me as the silent type who is more suited to follow orders and make big plays, rather than being someone who directs the action.


.. based ont he Reso posting compared with reddit and 5-s postings here, the resolution stuff is correct.
Its ppd and fear out from what I understand.
Bodhi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States180 Posts
August 24 2016 08:42 GMT
#2436
There's going to be 2 EG teams if you haven't figured it out by now, there's been plenty of hints dropped. Moon just referred to zai & Universe as being "strictly off-laners" at the current time, and both being locked in to EG. SumaiL has said he's sticking with EG. zai has said has said "All I can say is I'm playing with my boy SumaiL" (Which in itself was more or less confirmation of him & SumaiL leaving the #1 roster and building a #2 roster)

Based on what we know, this is roughly what's confirmed.

EG1 - Fear _____ Universe _____ ppd(c)
EG2 - _____ SumaiL zai Cr1t(c) _____

Arteezy will be on one of these rosters, more than likely 2 because of his conflicts with ppd. Unsure on the remaining 3 spots.
lowdice
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden306 Posts
August 24 2016 10:22 GMT
#2437
fear taking a break breaks you theory Bodhi.
You only have a little spark of madness, you mustn't lose it!
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
August 24 2016 10:54 GMT
#2438
Two EG teams competing in the same space is very very shady
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
August 24 2016 11:11 GMT
#2439
On August 24 2016 19:54 wims80 wrote:
Two EG teams competing in the same space is very very shady


If they make a EU EG and a NA EG it would be fine.
Else they will compete against DC, that s not clever to be honest...
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
August 24 2016 11:15 GMT
#2440
On August 24 2016 19:54 wims80 wrote:
Two EG teams competing in the same space is very very shady


We had the same thing going on in China for ages now, Newbee.Y , CDEC (LGD's B squad), VG.R etc. etc. Dunno why you would think that way.

As long as tournaments eliminate any conflicts of interests by having them play each other at the beginning of the groupstage, or by placing them in different groups and having them face only in playoffs, I think we should be gucci.
Envy fan since NTH.
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