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Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
July 22 2016 12:40 GMT
#2261
Honestly, pretty close to what I saw from EG when they had Arteezy and was top 3'ing every tournament they attended.

They were methodical, took good trades, and sealed the game off of better team fight execution.

Well played.
NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
July 22 2016 15:07 GMT
#2262
How about that F-God play on Jug when he made so much space and ended up getting two kills as well. That was beautiful and the next 5 minutes of chat was F-God haha
Sandstorm@USEast | The Last Pride [EviL] GW2 | Nb.Sky
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 22 2016 15:28 GMT
#2263
On July 23 2016 00:07 NbSky wrote:
How about that F-God play on Jug when he made so much space and ended up getting two kills as well. That was beautiful and the next 5 minutes of chat was F-God haha


That movement through the Radiant Ancient/top lane was so brilliant. Dragged CDEC.Y around long enough that EG was able to grab multiple kills as a result. Fun to watch.

The main thing, since I expect ppd to draft wholly within the Meta, is the team-fight coordination, Roshan Fights & High Ground pushing. The RTZ-era this year was marked by a lot of terrible Roshan fights, so that really strong patience in game 1 was stellar.

There was just good control all around, which is really important to see. Along with Zai continuing to play well. His SD was extremely on point.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
July 22 2016 16:03 GMT
#2264
i would like to see them play good teams like liquid, og or newbee. this tournament is too ez;)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 22 2016 17:03 GMT
#2265
On July 22 2016 21:40 Gaial wrote:
Honestly, pretty close to what I saw from EG when they had Arteezy and was top 3'ing every tournament they attended.

They were methodical, took good trades, and sealed the game off of better team fight execution.

Well played.

Yeah good point, they pretty much back to doing that as they know Unigod is good enough to lose his lane and go get shit from the jungle quick enough. Bulba weakness was his farming as 3. Should be good test tonight vs Na'Vi, potential El Cashico between Secret and EG too?!
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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
July 23 2016 00:43 GMT
#2266
ok never mind. eg is still bad, at least compared to the best teams. because og and liquid shit on navi all the time.
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
July 23 2016 00:57 GMT
#2267
On July 23 2016 09:43 hunter_x wrote:
ok never mind. eg is still bad, at least compared to the best teams. because og and liquid shit on navi all the time.


Fnatic got destroyed by Io+Huskar+Chen+Sand King yesterday, in 13 minutes.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 01:01:59
July 23 2016 01:00 GMT
#2268
On July 23 2016 09:43 hunter_x wrote:
ok never mind. eg is still bad, at least compared to the best teams. because og and liquid shit on navi all the time.

It doesn't work like that
EG/Secret/Alliance still have a much higher chance to beat Liquid/OG than Na'Vi does
That's why their odds with bookies are much better to actually win TI.

So because
OG/TL >>>Na'Vi
and Na'Vi >>> EG
doesn't mean that
OG/TL >>>>>>EG

at all. Na'Vi just have a mental block against those those two teams and spazz as Dendi himself admitted, while being able to beat literally everyone else.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
July 23 2016 01:07 GMT
#2269
The bookie odds is set to milk fanboys who don't know anything about betting. EG/Secret/Alliance are the three strongest names in western Dota, they got lots of clueless fanboys and the sportsbooks wants their money
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 23 2016 09:08 GMT
#2270
Credit to Na'Vi, those games where won in their planning sessions. Fear got shut down in lane, twice! That's hard to pull off.

What Na'Vi did was take a page from Wings' playbook. If you have 1-2 decent laners, it doesn't matter the scaling of the rest of the team, as long as you have a combo to shutdown the safelane. Wings kept doing this at The Summit 5, and it's interesting to see Na'Vi adapt this. It's going to be a key strategy going into TI6.

EG always needs a path to their mid-game timings, so hitting them super early is always a way of doing that. Na'Vi put in some really good work in the first 5 minutes of both games, and were able to snowball out of it. Congrats to them.

As for the rest of the tournament, I think it's probably useful for EG, as they'll get more games in. We'll see how things go. Lower Bracket EG is Go!
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
July 23 2016 11:54 GMT
#2271
Yep, EG needs more games. Zai though playing well needs more games vs top opponents. Best of luck to you today!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 23 2016 12:02 GMT
#2272
More games it is, we got our safe lane shut down to much meant our carry was never in a position to help. Oh well, more games lets go!
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Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
July 23 2016 13:57 GMT
#2273
Any bros wanna link vods?
Disbthey rly need to gg that early?

Anyway, think they happy with more games.
Still believe inna gravd finals here.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 23 2016 14:11 GMT
#2274
https://secure.twitch.tv/dotastarladder_en/v/79412909?t=07h18m41s
Is Vod

Yeah Fear had to go jungle as terrorblade and had nothing, everyoine else getting hurt. The most farmed hero both games for EG was Unigod as he was 1v1 lane all time. They should have picked him Natures game 2 and then with the farm he gets they can go with the 3 carry line up. Anyway more games, lets hope they get passed VP 2.0 and then give Fnatic a good series after that.
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Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
July 23 2016 23:31 GMT
#2275
Im not sure what to think about this... Imo they should beat friends even with half clowny shit, maybe thats just me.
Is the answere realy that they are hiding things for TI?... Feels bad anyway, why would they bother then.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-23 23:51:09
July 23 2016 23:50 GMT
#2276
gonna have to go hella hard at TI =/

I'd probably be happy with a top 6 finish at TI, if they could take out a top team, or secret that would be good
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Mosoball
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland686 Posts
July 24 2016 00:40 GMT
#2277
On July 24 2016 08:50 emperorchampion wrote:
gonna have to go hella hard at TI =/

I'd probably be happy with a top 6 finish at TI, if they could take out a top team, or secret that would be good

I'd say top 8 would be really good and almost too much based on the recent games. We'll see :/
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
July 24 2016 01:55 GMT
#2278
Nothing to say about their Day 2 performance except disappointing.
sweatbomb
Profile Joined September 2014
Sweden469 Posts
July 24 2016 06:27 GMT
#2279
It's a sad day when EG looses to a russian trash stack. Hope they can show something decent at TI.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 24 2016 13:26 GMT
#2280
Yeah yesterday wasn't fun. Was good game 2 and a good game 3 vs Friends but they didn't do anything with the lead they had built against Friends and if they just full on 5 man or pushed more aggressively with there lead they might have had some more chances. Oh well, lets hope they scrim hard vs the better teams that are in America at the end so they can get ready for TI!
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