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Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
June 23 2016 07:23 GMT
#2201
GG EG!!
Missed 3 games yesterday, the two against Perky Pepperoni and the firt game vrs Ritsu stack.
For those who didnt catch any games, EG dominated most games from start to finish, played very professional in most of the games, concentrating alott on theier ward game and farming.
Love the way Zai moves around the map.
Fear plays carry as he always did, looks very strong.
Universe also look strong, he and Zai had some cute plays together.
Ofc, alott of weak teams, so im not going to hype too much, but the drafts and play was all in all convincing from the boys.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 07:50:25
June 23 2016 07:49 GMT
#2202
Out2Win was the only game where the other team had an extremely good draft. Enough that ppd last-picked an Alchemist. They were able to keep the game actually close in the first 10 minutes, which is something pretty much no one else managed. But, well, EG's player skill was just higher, though it was a good game.

Luccini managed to stay around in the game, sort of, because Slark was off free-farming, but EG's timing was always going to hit too strong before Slark could have a chance to solo-carry the game.

I missed the Shazam game, but Shazam's no-push draft really didn't pay off. Though the plan they had made sense: make it nearly impossible to break high ground. Though that only works if you're not all dead.

Part of me hopes EG runs the table in the Regionals, so we get some fun win-streak headed into Nanyang.

Oh, and the Ritsu Stack, because they've actually played at higher levels, seemed the most tilted against EG. The rest of the teams were mostly in YOLO mode, which at least made it slightly interesting.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 09:34:26
June 23 2016 09:29 GMT
#2203
EG looked a lot better. Fear has a solid resolution when he engages and picks targets as carry, and is a lot better at getting more done when he's given early aggression role. EG put more on Sumail's shoulders and drafted him more true carries in mid (PL, Jugg, alch) with Fear/Zai's reliable ability to make room.

They weren't against the best opponents, but it was nice to see a more solid direction in their games. Their drafts are back to looking extremely open-ended where a fighting core could realistically go to 4 of their 5 players.

edit: oh and Fear + Universe's synergy on getting wombo combos off is nice to see again. Basically Fear is great and I hope he sticks around as carry forever.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 23 2016 11:34 GMT
#2204
On June 23 2016 16:49 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Out2Win was the only game where the other team had an extremely good draft. Enough that ppd last-picked an Alchemist. They were able to keep the game actually close in the first 10 minutes, which is something pretty much no one else managed. But, well, EG's player skill was just higher, though it was a good game.

Luccini managed to stay around in the game, sort of, because Slark was off free-farming, but EG's timing was always going to hit too strong before Slark could have a chance to solo-carry the game.

I missed the Shazam game, but Shazam's no-push draft really didn't pay off. Though the plan they had made sense: make it nearly impossible to break high ground. Though that only works if you're not all dead.

Part of me hopes EG runs the table in the Regionals, so we get some fun win-streak headed into Nanyang.

Oh, and the Ritsu Stack, because they've actually played at higher levels, seemed the most tilted against EG. The rest of the teams were mostly in YOLO mode, which at least made it slightly interesting.

I was just waiting for someone from EG to taunt the guys from Ritsu stack since I really don't like them (I'm surely not the only one here feeling that way). Like, just tell them to get out of the game before they gg or something like that. But sadly nothing of the sort

Also the Ritsu stack did take out Veggies iirc so more reason to hate on them.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
June 23 2016 11:43 GMT
#2205
When EG picked IO i literally died :D Woop, we are io pickers!
Ritsu stack got absolutely dismantled in the bo3s same with that silly pepperoni team lol. Not alot to shout about as the opposition maybe is to weak to account for anything but boy EG stomped that, hoping for some more solid plays in the main qualifiers. I lold when Zai had a sub 10 minute blink on position 4 lion after tri laning, i was a bit in shock so to speak!
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Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
June 23 2016 11:53 GMT
#2206
Yeah, the real tests are CoL and DC... Those are going to be interesting games for sure.
Im such a zai fanboy lol... just love that he can play everything, and he does so much with heroes like ET, BH, Nyx etc. scary dude ;-)
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
June 23 2016 12:06 GMT
#2207
Yeah he literally a young fear. Loving the drafts and playstyle. Bring on regionals!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 23 2016 13:28 GMT
#2208
If the DotaBuff analysis is correct, EG only lost a single Tier 3 tower (no raxs) the entire Qualifier run. And that happened while they were getting Megas on the other team. (This game.)

Just something I thought I'd note.

I also don't think they'll always run Zai so aggressive as a support against DC & Complexity (well, maybe not DC) because they'll be actually used to dealing with the pressure. It's pretty necessary for tier 1 teams.
korendir
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore259 Posts
June 23 2016 13:37 GMT
#2209
Where can i watch all the vods?
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 13:40:14
June 23 2016 13:40 GMT
#2210
On June 23 2016 22:37 korendir wrote:
Where can i watch all the vods?

Should be on GrandGrants twitch log atleast.
He casted all of EG games day 1 and 2.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
TriCkster135
Profile Joined June 2016
Germany80 Posts
June 23 2016 14:10 GMT
#2211
EG qualifier run was definitly impressive. I would be really surprised if they didn't get at least Top 2 in the main qualifier.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
June 23 2016 19:43 GMT
#2212
On June 23 2016 22:37 korendir wrote:
Where can i watch all the vods?

https://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit2/v/73957003 - for Shazam game
https://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit/v/73968220
https://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit/v/74006977
for the rest, u have to slide forward etc to find EG but they do show all there games however they don't show all the drafts as they were showing some idiot teams instead stupid BTS T_T
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
boroty
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland11 Posts
June 24 2016 02:13 GMT
#2213
Feels so good to have Fear on carry and Zai and Universe back on the squad and looking in form.
Never get in a 'who's cooler' battle with Julian Casablancas
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
June 24 2016 13:23 GMT
#2214
Thoughts on the Za-Io?

Caught his stream for 5 minutes, he was playing a nice earth spirit
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 24 2016 14:24 GMT
#2215
On June 24 2016 22:23 Gaial wrote:
Thoughts on the Za-Io?

Caught his stream for 5 minutes, he was playing a nice earth spirit


Looked fine, and it seemed like the team had practiced it. We might not see it much until they drop it at TI. Expect that they've been practicing it a lot when teams just randomly ban it.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
June 24 2016 18:49 GMT
#2216
Yeah PPD banned IO in the series with EG Bulba so he still isn't that confident in leaving it in the pool vs teams that would play it. However Zai seemed fine on it and when you can pick up a Fear Sven and take him around the map, well then you gonna have a good time
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
June 24 2016 20:14 GMT
#2217
If they're not willing to let it go against top teams then there is no point in having Zai play it, unless it's first pick. There goes that draft advantage.

EG and PPD know how to play against Io, I specifically remember PPD's lion consistently landing 2 man Impale's on offensive relocates.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
June 24 2016 20:19 GMT
#2218
On June 25 2016 05:14 Gaial wrote:
If they're not willing to let it go against top teams then there is no point in having Zai play it, unless it's first pick. There goes that draft advantage.

EG and PPD know how to play against Io, I specifically remember PPD's lion consistently landing 2 man Impale's on offensive relocates.

That the series they rekt OG?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
June 24 2016 22:56 GMT
#2219
Im still a bit nervous boys, are we strong enough already to take down DC and COL?
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
June 24 2016 23:18 GMT
#2220
On June 25 2016 07:56 Atoissen wrote:
Im still a bit nervous boys, are we strong enough already to take down DC and COL?


I think EG can definitely beat coL.

DC, on the other hand, is a question mark because w33 and Misery always seem to give EG trouble.
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