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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
July 28 2014 14:10 GMT
#1421
No ban strat took down a prime iG team though.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
July 28 2014 14:27 GMT
#1422
On July 28 2014 23:10 Caladbolg wrote:
No ban strat took down a prime iG team though.

ig just picked way to greedy in that game. not the first time faith did that btw
FTD
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-28 14:55:55
July 28 2014 14:55 GMT
#1423
Really surprised by the turn of events. I always thought that 430 was to iG what BurNIng is to DK. Apparently not.

P.S. no ban strat 100% win rate

I kid, personally don't think iceiceice is suitable to be the main drafter. Co-drafter/someone who gives his opinions or pocket-strat idea-giver yes, main drafter no. Zenith's flop at TI3 could be partly attributed lack of meta/hero understanding, and iirc ice had been the main drafter then
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
July 28 2014 15:07 GMT
#1424
On July 28 2014 23:27 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2014 23:10 Caladbolg wrote:
No ban strat took down a prime iG team though.

ig just picked way to greedy in that game. not the first time faith did that btw

also SEA server
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ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
July 28 2014 17:11 GMT
#1425
On July 28 2014 22:26 Nightlark wrote:
Feels like LaNm is very difficult to replace due to the fact that he was also a great drafter. Doesn't seem like BurNing should take back the drafting position, since his picks lack the versatility that LaNm brought. MMY hasn't drafted for the team, don't think 430 drafts either. It'd be interesting to see iceiceice as drafter, but eeeeeeh.


Drafting comes with practice, LaNm didn't suddenly became one of the best drafters in the world overnight. With a new patch coming and (potentially) more heroes added to CM (please Volvo add earthspirit, LC, phoenix and TB!!) there wouldn't be a stable meta for quite some time.

Well anyway my point is that BurNing/Ice3x could become great at drafting given enough practice
cbk486
Profile Joined July 2014
154 Posts
July 28 2014 17:17 GMT
#1426
So is mushi retiring then
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
July 28 2014 18:17 GMT
#1427
I honestly think you can take any 5 players from iG, DK, Newbee, or VG and have enough "skill" to make a decent team. In the end, it all just comes down to synergy and leadership. DK was sort of lacking in synergy all along. Now that LaNm is gone, they're lacking in leadership. Neither Ferrari_430 nor Fy will solve that problem. I'm very interested to see what happens in the coming weeks =)
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-28 21:54:32
July 28 2014 21:54 GMT
#1428
On July 29 2014 02:11 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2014 22:26 Nightlark wrote:
Feels like LaNm is very difficult to replace due to the fact that he was also a great drafter. Doesn't seem like BurNing should take back the drafting position, since his picks lack the versatility that LaNm brought. MMY hasn't drafted for the team, don't think 430 drafts either. It'd be interesting to see iceiceice as drafter, but eeeeeeh.


Drafting comes with practice, LaNm didn't suddenly became one of the best drafters in the world overnight. With a new patch coming and (potentially) more heroes added to CM (please Volvo add earthspirit, LC, phoenix and TB!!) there wouldn't be a stable meta for quite some time.

Well anyway my point is that BurNing/Ice3x could become great at drafting given enough practice


lanm draft were still pretty awful. hence why they lost. more than 50% of the games at TI4 were lost at draft.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
[julien]
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom3 Posts
July 28 2014 22:09 GMT
#1429
I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but do what are everyones opinion on what will happen to the roster now that TI is done? I'm curious, are they going to kick anyone off the team since they under-performed in their eyes and in the eyes of many fans. Will swap any roles, who is replacing LaNm is anyone going to leave and is anyone going to leave the team on their own?
I'm bad at this game.
Monv18hao
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada627 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 07:16:07
July 29 2014 07:14 GMT
#1430
Burning pubbing with Zhou and Zippo [and Rabbit] right now
(B-god AM going 15/0/15 oh my god he randomed AM then next game randomed Naga wth)
“拿梦想当赌注 我怎么舍得输” -ZSMJ
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 29 2014 07:20 GMT
#1431
On July 29 2014 16:14 Monv18hao wrote:
Burning pubbing with Zhou and Zippo [and Rabbit] right now
(B-god AM going 15/0/15 oh my god he randomed AM then next game randomed Naga wth)


Do you stalk them in client or are they streaming on douyu?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Monv18hao
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada627 Posts
July 29 2014 07:25 GMT
#1432
Zhou is streaming on 17173
“拿梦想当赌注 我怎么舍得输” -ZSMJ
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 29 2014 07:27 GMT
#1433
Thanks.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
xalazias
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia32 Posts
July 29 2014 07:54 GMT
#1434
430 in DK... omg, don't even have words for how awesome that would be! I really really hope it happens!

I do echo the people who said that DK needs someone who can draft, though... I haven't been very impressed with Burning or Mushi's drafts in the past. (Sorry B-god.)
we rise. we rise. we rise.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
July 29 2014 08:21 GMT
#1435
Just to address drafting, Burning is actually the most stable drafter they have. He often drafts the strong and stable heroes in the meta, and is a very good ban-er. The difference is that he doesn't really draft to their strengths (he always took viper as a safelane and sucked actually playing it - could be attributed to having to make the calls too, which is somethin previously discussed as a reason lanm took the drafting role), and he also doesn't draft well outside the meta (his pocket picks were often weird).

That said, he's still a good drafter. Lanm tended to overthink/be too creative at times when stability was what they needed (something xiao8 is a master of).

I'd be down for some bgod drafting again.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Retvets
Profile Joined April 2013
1781 Posts
July 29 2014 14:16 GMT
#1436
Actually mushi drafting was very good at the start of the DK term. ala 6.79
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
July 29 2014 16:01 GMT
#1437
On July 29 2014 23:16 Retvets wrote:
Actually mushi drafting was very good at the start of the DK term. ala 6.79

Mushi takes a hell of a long time to adapt his draft to new patches though.
RedSuNs
Profile Joined July 2014
Malaysia7 Posts
July 29 2014 16:49 GMT
#1438
DK is forever my dream team. I've watched their games and I'm impressed by the combination of LaNm & Iceiceice. Everything is just so perfect for me but too bad they did not manage to get the 1st prize in Ti4. DK 2014 is forever #1 for me. Will miss you guys, LaNm,Iceiceice,MuShi,BurNIng,MMY!
I'm a car maniac
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12816 Posts
July 30 2014 00:30 GMT
#1439
wait wha mushi nooooooooo
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11449 Posts
July 30 2014 09:47 GMT
#1440
On July 29 2014 06:54 HighTimeDotA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 02:11 ref4 wrote:
On July 28 2014 22:26 Nightlark wrote:
Feels like LaNm is very difficult to replace due to the fact that he was also a great drafter. Doesn't seem like BurNing should take back the drafting position, since his picks lack the versatility that LaNm brought. MMY hasn't drafted for the team, don't think 430 drafts either. It'd be interesting to see iceiceice as drafter, but eeeeeeh.


Drafting comes with practice, LaNm didn't suddenly became one of the best drafters in the world overnight. With a new patch coming and (potentially) more heroes added to CM (please Volvo add earthspirit, LC, phoenix and TB!!) there wouldn't be a stable meta for quite some time.

Well anyway my point is that BurNing/Ice3x could become great at drafting given enough practice


lanm draft were still pretty awful. hence why they lost. more than 50% of the games at TI4 were lost at draft.


Umm those were probably burning drafts. Lanm only drafted halfway into the tournament.
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