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Nightlark
Profile Joined June 2014
United States55 Posts
July 30 2014 15:40 GMT
#1441

心中,眼中,梦中的冠军 - DK.BurNing | DK.Mushi | DK.iceiceice | DK.LaNm | DK.MMY
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 30 2014 16:02 GMT
#1442
On July 30 2014 18:47 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 06:54 HighTimeDotA wrote:
On July 29 2014 02:11 ref4 wrote:
On July 28 2014 22:26 Nightlark wrote:
Feels like LaNm is very difficult to replace due to the fact that he was also a great drafter. Doesn't seem like BurNing should take back the drafting position, since his picks lack the versatility that LaNm brought. MMY hasn't drafted for the team, don't think 430 drafts either. It'd be interesting to see iceiceice as drafter, but eeeeeeh.


Drafting comes with practice, LaNm didn't suddenly became one of the best drafters in the world overnight. With a new patch coming and (potentially) more heroes added to CM (please Volvo add earthspirit, LC, phoenix and TB!!) there wouldn't be a stable meta for quite some time.

Well anyway my point is that BurNing/Ice3x could become great at drafting given enough practice


lanm draft were still pretty awful. hence why they lost. more than 50% of the games at TI4 were lost at draft.


Umm those were probably burning drafts. Lanm only drafted halfway into the tournament.

burning only drafted for like two days
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
July 30 2014 17:50 GMT
#1443
2.5, which was basically half of their games. Lanm had a few weak drafts (firstpick razor that last game vs VG is still giving me nightmares), but he did a lot better overall imo.

I still wonder what would've happened if DK had just had the confidence to stick to their strengths.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
July 30 2014 23:51 GMT
#1444
i guess 430/chuan replacing mushi and lanm is quite logical?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 31 2014 00:21 GMT
#1445
chuan staying with IG apparently ? or so reddit says
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fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
July 31 2014 03:14 GMT
#1446
430/faith would be preferable if it's mushi leaving. If burning were to retire instead 430/fy would be insane.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 31 2014 03:17 GMT
#1447
burning/430/iceiceice/fy/mmy is insane but i don't think it's much of a player skill upgrade from mushi/lanm (maybe a bit), but they do lose leadership skills from lanm i guess.

same with newbee, upgrading xiao8 to rabbit is a step up in skill but loss of captaincy is big.

i wonder how the two teams will work around that.
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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
July 31 2014 04:00 GMT
#1448
I just want Fy actually. Mushi underperformed but I don't think it was because of skill but more of hero FOTM.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
July 31 2014 04:18 GMT
#1449
On July 31 2014 13:00 Caladbolg wrote:
I just want Fy actually. Mushi underperformed but I don't think it was because of skill but more of hero FOTM.


Mushi is a good mid, but I don't think he's as versatile as 430. Not being able to play invoker/brewmaster brought alot of drafting problems to DK. Mushi is not as good in the offlane as ice3 when ice3 plays invoker, and a brew pick meant burning having to play it.
The Notorious Winkles
cbk486
Profile Joined July 2014
154 Posts
July 31 2014 05:32 GMT
#1450
Are any of these new players able to be captains or drafters? If not, the issues the old DK had will remain.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 31 2014 05:46 GMT
#1451
VG twitter says fy will not leave VG *shrug
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 31 2014 06:14 GMT
#1452
On July 31 2014 01:02 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 18:47 DucK- wrote:
On July 29 2014 06:54 HighTimeDotA wrote:
On July 29 2014 02:11 ref4 wrote:
On July 28 2014 22:26 Nightlark wrote:
Feels like LaNm is very difficult to replace due to the fact that he was also a great drafter. Doesn't seem like BurNing should take back the drafting position, since his picks lack the versatility that LaNm brought. MMY hasn't drafted for the team, don't think 430 drafts either. It'd be interesting to see iceiceice as drafter, but eeeeeeh.


Drafting comes with practice, LaNm didn't suddenly became one of the best drafters in the world overnight. With a new patch coming and (potentially) more heroes added to CM (please Volvo add earthspirit, LC, phoenix and TB!!) there wouldn't be a stable meta for quite some time.

Well anyway my point is that BurNing/Ice3x could become great at drafting given enough practice


lanm draft were still pretty awful. hence why they lost. more than 50% of the games at TI4 were lost at draft.


Umm those were probably burning drafts. Lanm only drafted halfway into the tournament.

burning only drafted for like two days


During which they had their worst performances. Lanm's drafts had pretty much 100% win rate (mostly in dominant fashion) except against eg and vici.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 31 2014 08:20 GMT
#1453
well they only did play 3 bo3 in main event, so 2/3 isn't that good o.O
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fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
July 31 2014 11:14 GMT
#1454
did ig have drafting problems during TI, or were they mostly execution? wasn't following them so not too sure. faith would be a good addition instead of chuan imo
Monv18hao
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada627 Posts
August 01 2014 05:09 GMT
#1455
http://www.douyutv.com/iceiceice

ICEICEICE IS STREAMINGGGGG
HES STREAMING
STREAMING!
“拿梦想当赌注 我怎么舍得输” -ZSMJ
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 01 2014 05:09 GMT
#1456
he streams when other douyu streamers stopped.
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Monv18hao
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada627 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-01 05:24:46
August 01 2014 05:11 GMT
#1457
430 ember on the other team hahahaha
“拿梦想当赌注 我怎么舍得输” -ZSMJ
Chessz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States644 Posts
August 01 2014 06:06 GMT
#1458
why is there a bunch of text scrolling across the screen constantly wtf
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 01 2014 06:10 GMT
#1459
On August 01 2014 15:06 Chessz wrote:
why is there a bunch of text scrolling across the screen constantly wtf

china streams and videos frequently have scrolling comments (imported from japan's nnd)
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Monv18hao
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada627 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-01 06:49:26
August 01 2014 06:13 GMT
#1460
hit the ">>" at the bottom to get rid of it

Ice3 says he's going to Navi, then EG after a few months, then he'll come back to china for TI5.
Also says MMY is retiring and opening up a mahjong place (mmy known for playing mahjong)

Pretty believable IMO

Edit: In a more serious manner, he says he's probably going to stay in China, but hasn't decided yet....
“拿梦想当赌注 我怎么舍得输” -ZSMJ
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