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On March 19 2015 05:33 Piledriver wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 05:25 GinNtoniC wrote:
especially since 7ckingmad is a revered Dota 2 strategist. I mean...7ckingmad is no Puppey or PPD. Wouldn't use as strong a word as "revered". Anyway, glad things are looking up for them. I would have loved to see Bulldog playing with them though instead of being a sellout streamer clown.
Yes only sellouts play Dota 2 to entertain people, real players play Dota 2 professionally with all of the money that comes from heaven, where God is neutral about esports but respects that labor should be paid.
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Appreciate the translation. It's good to have plenty of interviews to see the state of the teams
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I've always had a high opinion of fuckingmad. In his previous teams he's usually one of the better or best on the team, but looked like he sometimes stuck with teams out of friendship instead of looking for his best interest. I hope he can get some recognition on Alliance. They've been looking a lot better recently.
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Thanks for the translation.
As for the content itself, having solid leadership and command structure is pivotal to success, especially at the pro level.
I am happy Alliance have finally gotten it together, and I hope they can keep on with their current momentum!
In particular Pajkatt seems to really shine on this team, and I look forward to watching his star continuing to rise.
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I hope Alliance can start performing well again. AdmiralBulldog and S4 were my favorite players on Alliance though, lol.
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lol loda...
"I've taken a few steps back, but I still see myself as the leader, even though I shouldn't be making the calls since that's 7ckingmad's role"
teamwork
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On March 19 2015 11:42 Mystgun wrote:
lol loda...
"I've taken a few steps back, but I still see myself as the leader, even though I shouldn't be making the calls since that's 7ckingmad's role"
teamwork
Pretty reasonable. You can be a leader without doing the play-calling.
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On March 19 2015 05:33 Piledriver wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 05:25 GinNtoniC wrote:
especially since 7ckingmad is a revered Dota 2 strategist. I mean...7ckingmad is no Puppey or PPD. Wouldn't use as strong a word as "revered". Anyway, glad things are looking up for them. I would have loved to see Bulldog playing with them though instead of being a sellout streamer clown.
Yea he is not in the same league, though it can also be said that he never had the opportunity to work with top players. What he has done though is make an average team look good. Sigma in particular had a lot of potential, but deadly disbanded. I particularly respect him for his time in sigma because he drafted according to his team, and not blindly following the meta.
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Loda always had a knack for finding swedish talent, so not sure why he suddenly can't. Considering Chessie, it would have been more obvious that Limmp joined [A] than NiP. Actually a bit surprised that they haven't gotten players from NiP like Handsken.
Personally sadfaced Ace wasn't attached to [A].
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Lalalaland34486 Posts
Heh, I know exactly what Loda means by the toilet being a hole in the ground in Malaysia. Fortunately almost every place in Malaysia has a more conventional toilet as well.
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Loda even went out on Facebook today and had to specifically state that this interview was mostly joking around, since apparently a lot of people just read the translated interview and thought he was a douche.
#lostintranslation
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I'm impressed that people can miss the obvious jokes...
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If you listen to the interview it's obvious that he's joking, but if you're just reading the translated script (is that the word?) then it's pretty understandable how someone might get confused.
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Listened to the interview for kicks while I read through it. Regardless of what Swedes are actually saying, it always sounds like they're talking about which village to raid this season.
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On March 19 2015 16:23 Dracolich70 wrote:
Loda always had a knack for finding swedish talent, so not sure why he suddenly can't. Considering Chessie, it would have been more obvious that Limmp joined [A] than NiP. Actually a bit surprised that they haven't gotten players from NiP like Handsken.
Personally sadfaced Ace wasn't attached to [A].
NiP is basically a carry over a Swedish group of friends who were very good at Hon(Lajons) + Era (who was also a Hon superstar). No reason for any of them to leave
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On March 19 2015 23:30 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 16:23 Dracolich70 wrote:
Loda always had a knack for finding swedish talent, so not sure why he suddenly can't. Considering Chessie, it would have been more obvious that Limmp joined [A] than NiP. Actually a bit surprised that they haven't gotten players from NiP like Handsken.
Personally sadfaced Ace wasn't attached to [A]. NiP is basically a carry over a Swedish group of friends who were very good at Hon(Lajons) + Era (who was also a Hon superstar). No reason for any of them to leave Limmp didn't play on Lajons. Plenty played in Lajons. Also in Dota 2, like Mynuts - you know that for a time joined [A], leaving Lajons. Other than playing in Lajons, Era also played in Fnatic, a group of friends, who were also very good at HoN. Somehow they split.,
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On March 20 2015 00:05 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 23:30 bagels21 wrote:On March 19 2015 16:23 Dracolich70 wrote:
Loda always had a knack for finding swedish talent, so not sure why he suddenly can't. Considering Chessie, it would have been more obvious that Limmp joined [A] than NiP. Actually a bit surprised that they haven't gotten players from NiP like Handsken.
Personally sadfaced Ace wasn't attached to [A]. NiP is basically a carry over a Swedish group of friends who were very good at Hon(Lajons) + Era (who was also a Hon superstar). No reason for any of them to leave Limmp didn't play on Lajons. Plenty played in Lajons. Also in Dota 2, like Mynuts - you know that for a time joined [A], leaving Lajons. Other than playing in Lajons, Era also played in Fnatic, a group of friends, who were also very good at HoN. Somehow they split.,
yes of course plenty did play on Lajons, but there's no reason for them to leave when they had something good going lol. Fnatic split after 2.5 years of play together and a lot of emotional/personal drama. Those situations aren't similar at all lol. The core of handsken, sealkid, jonassomfam was the core of the last iteration of lions in HON fyi. (Era/S4 had played in earlier iterations)
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Sweden647 Posts
On March 20 2015 02:36 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 00:05 Dracolich70 wrote:On March 19 2015 23:30 bagels21 wrote:On March 19 2015 16:23 Dracolich70 wrote:
Loda always had a knack for finding swedish talent, so not sure why he suddenly can't. Considering Chessie, it would have been more obvious that Limmp joined [A] than NiP. Actually a bit surprised that they haven't gotten players from NiP like Handsken.
Personally sadfaced Ace wasn't attached to [A]. NiP is basically a carry over a Swedish group of friends who were very good at Hon(Lajons) + Era (who was also a Hon superstar). No reason for any of them to leave Limmp didn't play on Lajons. Plenty played in Lajons. Also in Dota 2, like Mynuts - you know that for a time joined [A], leaving Lajons. Other than playing in Lajons, Era also played in Fnatic, a group of friends, who were also very good at HoN. Somehow they split., yes of course plenty did play on Lajons, but there's no reason for them to leave when they had something good going lol. Fnatic split after 2.5 years of play together and a lot of emotional/personal drama. Those situations aren't similar at all lol. The core of handsken, sealkid, jonassomfam was the core of the last iteration of lions in HON fyi. (Era/S4 had played in earlier iterations)
Limmp didn't play for Lions in HoN no, but he did play with everyone in NiP (but not with ErA) in team BMK. He has also played with other former HoN and now dota pros such as zai, mynuts and fittske (who were in the first iteration of lajons in dota 2).
For anyone who didn't know, HoN was actually quite big in Sweden before its downfall. Most of the current Swedish Dota players have played HoN on different teams and been quite successful. ErA and s4 were the first to successfully made the switch to dota and therefore has had enough time to adapt and get really good at the game. zai switched later and has also achieved a lot of success. The other switched when HoN basically started to fall apart some time around late 2013, early 2014 and haven't had as much time to develop their play in dota, among those: Mynuts, Handsken, Sealkid, Jonassomfan, Fittske, Chessie and Limmp.
When Loda returned from Singapore wanting to start a new team, he wanted s4 as he was basically the first really good former HoN pro that switched. When s4 left, he saw Chessie as the new talent (who was actually considered better than s4 in HoN) and picked him up. Limmp went to NiP probably because of the reason i mentioned above (he had played HoN in a team with all the players in NiP except ErA).
Personally, I believe NiP as well as Limmp and Chessie in particular can surely develop into the same caliber of players as ErA, s4 and zai.
The Swedish Dota 2 scene actually looked quite dark for a while before these "2nd generation" players started to switch from HoN. For reference, the "first generation" as I would call them are players such as Pajkatt, Mirakel, smulgullig and the  youBoat guys as well as 4FC. Sure, most people played HoN at some point (Loda and Akke actually won the HoN Super Series back in 2011), but most of them switched to Dota 2 quite early since most of them played DotA Allstars on a high level before 2010.
This actually became quite a lot of text, but I hope some at least people can get some insight in where these new and old Swedish players actually comes from, and realize NiP isn't really just a random new team that popped up in late 2014 
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