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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 09 2018 03:06 GMT
#189161
On April 09 2018 08:24 2009 wrote:
ow i just finished episode 6 pls

i like sol that's at least entertaining

the first season was a struggle to get through, and what should have been the centerpiece of his relationships (the one with the three sisters) is sidelined
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 03:22:06
April 09 2018 03:11 GMT
#189162
On April 09 2018 11:56 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 10:38 intotheheart wrote:
So do you love playing through stuff like Baldur's Gate, or DA:O?


Dragon age dickpunching you with DLC you don't have made me resolve to not play it ever because -fuck- developers that think they can get away with that.

Baldur's Gate ironically has a bit of the same but nowhere near as offensive. I like Baldur's gate (and other western RPGs or w/e you wanna call em) but prefer when they bother to actually tell me a story. Both Tyranny and Pillars of Eternity felt like they did a good job at storytelling.

Also FFXIII's music is god-tier. Also a theme I noticed (FF6 and Chrono Trigger -also- have god-tier music).

Also Also I think I was very near FF13 100%. I remember there being one thing I hadn't killed, what google reminds me is an Undying named Attacus. I'd killed adamantoise and done every other mission, but I'd tried fighting that dude a couple times and never finished him.

So I didn't play DA:O until summer 2012 when I bought GOTY edition for 360 with all dlc content included, but uhh ya that sort of thing is annoying as fuck on release. The game however is absolutely god-tier fantastic in my book. Seems a bit of a shame not to play it now when its super cheap and include all dlc, Im pretty sure you can mod it to decent graphics on PC but I only played it on console, since the entirety of the 300 hrs I put into it was sitting in a little shack waiting out a setnet season that never happened. (im sure it was much healthier than drinking and staring at the water which was the other alternative)

The FFXIII 100% thing. You have to grind pretty good gear and the fights are obnoxious but its worth trying to do all the missions and kill everything if you want. The last few are quite hard. When I say 100% I refer to utterly pointless completion of all achievements. And that game has an achievement that requires 100s of hours of straight grinding beyond completing all game content. Its utterly pointless. But I did it so I dunno what that means. (Its an achievement to "obtain every item in the game", which is easy, but every item in the game has three upgrade levels and upgrades require GROSS amounts of grinding. Its a significant task to just max out your preferred weapon for each party member in your main group which is basically what you need to kill the last mission boss. Maxing EVERY weapon and every other item was utterly retarded.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2835 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 03:14:48
April 09 2018 03:14 GMT
#189163
I played it quite a bit (10 hours or so) before i quit. I remember combat being stale and basically relying on abusing mages' AoE in combat to feel like I had input into the combat. My character was a warrior and felt basically worthless. Iunno, the game just didn't capture me.

More importantly Merlini is not dead / streaming!
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 03:26:43
April 09 2018 03:18 GMT
#189164
Ya dragonage is not really about the combat, its only even interesting on the hardest level and then you have to micro manage everything endlessly in tactical mode which I quite understand people not finding fun. The story/world/characters is what I mostly think is so good. (my original playthrough with the vast majority of my time was some super rp shit where I got it into my head I wanted to do this plate wearing battlemage godawful build)

first merlini stream in months one of two people I ever paid twitch sub for. heh
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
April 09 2018 03:27 GMT
#189165
Idea for bane ult: instead of just draining health and mana, his ultimate ability now steals their gold at 100/150/200 gold per second and turns his victims into pay piggies
Agh's ult sniper: Sniper locks eyes with target unit, immobilizing them in horror as he turns the gun on himself. Channeled, lasts 5 seconds.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44304 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 04:20:42
April 09 2018 04:17 GMT
#189166
Yeah DAO is definitely not for the combat. It's about the lore/story and the fucking "every choice is bad" in almost every story arc of it.

Especially Baldurs Gate dear god the gameplay and the UI gives me a headache but the content of the game is great.

There's Black Desert Online if you want great gameplay(i didn't know anybody who played that game here . i thought it's pvp is great)

On April 07 2018 19:26 Atreides wrote:
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On April 07 2018 19:06 kollin wrote:
On April 07 2018 15:00 Atreides wrote:
On April 07 2018 13:36 Nevuk wrote:
Weirdest typo in the english language : people who write "that" instead of "than". It's so frequent, and there's no possible explanation for it.


Ok just now I write email, after sending I see that I wrote "than" instead of "that". what in the actual fuck. Being that my reaction when I saw this post was "who does that" I think you jinxed me. Although apparently I go the other direction.

I mean if no NA team in top 8 than NA gets 2 qual slots 110% but yeah still a chance for weird shit to happen being that both Optic and EG lost to VGJstorm recently.

I feel like if they just change the number of qual slots based on which teams are top 8 then the whole system is bullshit anyway


I don't disagree with this necessarily, but they clearly will. Every tournament gives EU qualifier one slot because the good teams (liquid/secret) are already invited. by dpc points EU and CIS have been the strongest regions all season, but their qualifier teams never do shit. It grossly impacts how many teams you want out of the qualifiers.

I mean, if you don't take into account who is getting invites when you assign qualifier slots you are going to piss people off the other direction because CLEARLY you are going to both have awful teams getting in some regions, and good teams not getting in other regions.

I guess the point is that historically for all sorts of reason (fanbases, tournament location, wanting the monies, etc) Valve has never not had 2 NA teams (at least) at TI and if none get DPC points I see no way in hell they are changing that. /shrug

It will be 2 NA slots unless it actually gives less qualifier slots to more deserving regions atm like SEA/CN then they'll get 1 spot. Don't see that happening though

Tradition has nothing to do with it. Last year NA had two slots because there was 3 teams who were doing relatively well on tournament pre-TI (c9, EG, Planet Odd) and one was already invited.

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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
April 09 2018 04:50 GMT
#189167
idk i think the story of daO pales compared to BG2 / something like Witcher3 but, its a good game. I liked it. Kinda in the mood to replay bg2 but...i really should beat pillars of eternity
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44304 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 05:04:32
April 09 2018 04:56 GMT
#189168
Witcher 3 is the better game but story not sure about that. Witcher always felt relatively safe and predictable compared to Dragon Age in general(the mage-templar part of the Dragon Age is wayy too well done. The only time i've ever seen something like that was from WoT. The portrayed fear and paranoia was so good). Not sure if i prefer DAO over BG2

Anybody tried the divinity series ?
this is a quote
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2835 Posts
April 09 2018 06:37 GMT
#189169
Divinity OS 1 and 2 are both fantastic. I strongly recommend D : OS 2 with a buddy.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 09 2018 10:54 GMT
#189170
On April 09 2018 11:11 Nevuk wrote:
I remember some western feminists being up in arms about ffxv not having any female party members. But the game itself seems to be pure bait for yaoi fangirls.

Yeah i remember brianna wu said something to the effect of "another game for straight white men," and its like.... this is definitely not made for straight white men lmao
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 09 2018 11:05 GMT
#189171
anyhow isnt straight-white-male the biggest demographic for games applying these 3 criterias so i would say it kinda makes sense to market games towards that

then again thats prolly not even true for final fantasy games
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 09 2018 11:08 GMT
#189172
yeah teh idea of accusing a final fantasy game of pandering to white men is just funny to me. literally the most twee series of all time lol
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 11:28:08
April 09 2018 11:16 GMT
#189173
Witcher 3 story never really clicked on me because

"Man gotta find Ciri before the Wild Hunt, but maybe later as i still have time to play a round of gwent or help that old lady with her frying pan, super important stuff, much more than saving the world"

Yah... i really really like Witcher 3 and the story itself its good but it falls flat, i do believe that's more on me and the hate i have for open world games.

I mean, Zelda BOTW fixed all that with the idea you need to recover your power and that was essential part of the story overall, even Zelda has a line that says "you may not be at a point where you've recovered your full power, or all of your memories... But Courage need not be remembered. For it is never forgotten." See? Literally you could go around recovering your power or if you have the skills and the courage you can save the world right away
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44304 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 12:20:30
April 09 2018 12:19 GMT
#189174
On April 09 2018 15:37 Fleetfeet wrote:
Divinity OS 1 and 2 are both fantastic. I strongly recommend D : OS 2 with a buddy.

Well does it have a good waifu romance ? (the most important question to ask)

Does the two games connect well like Dragon Age ? (a less important question than the first one)
this is a quote
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
April 09 2018 12:20 GMT
#189175
Of course there's a chance that a feminist says something intelligent or factually correct, it's bound to happen eventually. Facts are a patriarchal concept though hmm.

The real question is why are you paying attention?
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 09 2018 12:31 GMT
#189176
i dont have any skin in the culture wars. its fun to watch tho
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 09 2018 13:02 GMT
#189177
On April 09 2018 11:00 Atreides wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 06:44 Nevuk wrote:
After playing ffxv for like 5 hours, I have a bad hot take : FFXIII had better combat


I AGREE 100%. I am in the rare minority that actually liked ffxiii despite its many flaws. I couldn't finish xv. Its really bad. You don't care about the story at all, and the gameplay is nowhere near good enough to carry it. I have 100% completions on both xiii and xiii-2 tho so I am biased but ya... the difference between that and not being able to even finish the game is.... large. (DONT EVER TRY TO 100% XIII BTW)

And no girls in xv so im pretty sure its not for ith, or me either (<3 lightning in xiii)

2/10 forget it.

They surely exist as talkable NPCs and stuff, no? I thought the whole point of the plot was to get Noctus to some girl so they could have a dating sim/romance subquest.
kiss kiss fall in love
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
April 09 2018 13:21 GMT
#189178
On April 09 2018 22:02 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 11:00 Atreides wrote:
On April 09 2018 06:44 Nevuk wrote:
After playing ffxv for like 5 hours, I have a bad hot take : FFXIII had better combat


I AGREE 100%. I am in the rare minority that actually liked ffxiii despite its many flaws. I couldn't finish xv. Its really bad. You don't care about the story at all, and the gameplay is nowhere near good enough to carry it. I have 100% completions on both xiii and xiii-2 tho so I am biased but ya... the difference between that and not being able to even finish the game is.... large. (DONT EVER TRY TO 100% XIII BTW)

And no girls in xv so im pretty sure its not for ith, or me either (<3 lightning in xiii)

2/10 forget it.

They surely exist as talkable NPCs and stuff, no? I thought the whole point of the plot was to get Noctus to some girl so they could have a dating sim/romance subquest.


Umm... in the Kingsglaive movie she's there and that movie had me interested in playing the game, but I played.... a good bit. 20-30 hrs maybe (not quite sure it was a while ago) and there was literally no girls besides the one at gas station who is like intentionally out of place or something heh. So I guess shoot me for being shallow but it seriously detracted from my interest in the game. xd

The fishing though, is the best done sport fishing mini game (by far) of any game I've seen it in. Pretty much only thing I liked actually.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 09 2018 13:26 GMT
#189179
You stop fishing irl to fish in video games.

I guess I underestimated your love of that activity.
kiss kiss fall in love
Maverick_2009
Profile Joined December 2014
Somewhere2002 Posts
April 09 2018 14:08 GMT
#189180
ROFL
https://www.twitch.tv/deso_739
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