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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 08 2018 18:14 GMT
#189141
On April 09 2018 00:05 Erasme wrote:
its a good thing we dont shoot strikers in france
wouldn't be a lot of people left

It's illegal to strike in WV now. Of course, that doesn't actually stop anyone from doing it. I think it's also illegal to even talk about it in Oklahoma.
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
April 08 2018 18:34 GMT
#189142
On April 09 2018 03:14 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 00:05 Erasme wrote:
its a good thing we dont shoot strikers in france
wouldn't be a lot of people left

It's illegal to strike in WV now. Of course, that doesn't actually stop anyone from doing it. I think it's also illegal to even talk about it in Oklahoma.

Worker rights are for communists!..
Graphics
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2835 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-08 19:50:16
April 08 2018 19:34 GMT
#189143
On April 09 2018 01:47 harodihg wrote:
Why is it that whenever you see someone with a high level hero and maxed out shards it's almost always some disgusting hero that was last picked. It's never a CM or a Venge, it's always a broodmother, dark willow, or PL



I got called out for being a CM spammer yesterday. That's not a thing so idk what he was on about, but i'm gathering that going forward I'm gonna get that more often.

"Oh my god you filthy CM spammer, so abusive!" Lol.

If i had no soul I'd be a riki spammer. As-is I try ban it and if it isn't banned I'll pick it up.
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
April 08 2018 21:29 GMT
#189144
No such thing as a filthy CM spammer! They're just jealous of your integrity and handsome good looks

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Nothing can stop me
Agh's ult sniper: Sniper locks eyes with target unit, immobilizing them in horror as he turns the gun on himself. Channeled, lasts 5 seconds.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 08 2018 21:44 GMT
#189145
After playing ffxv for like 5 hours, I have a bad hot take : FFXIII had better combat
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 08 2018 21:45 GMT
#189146
Which of the two would you recommend?
kiss kiss fall in love
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 08 2018 22:09 GMT
#189147
On April 09 2018 06:45 intotheheart wrote:
Which of the two would you recommend?

I'm not really far enough into FFXV to make a comment, tbh. FFXIII seems like it was more creative story-line wise. It was "almost" a really good game. Then they just kept making mistakes.
If you want an RPG from 2017 to play it should be persona 5 though (and I'm pretty sure it can be emulated on any pc that can run FFXV anyways).

FFXIII should be played on easy mode if you actually want to play it (easy vs hard is sorta a misnomer here - all that happens on easy is that the fights don't take 2-3 minutes+ for regular mobs, and like 15-30 for bosses...)
It's very over-dramatic, though. A lot of people recommend FFXIII-2 as being the best of the FFXIII games, but it's a bit different (it's a time hopping adventure where you only have two party members, as far as I could tell after like 20 hours, at which point I'd lost interest. My PC being unable to play it at 30 fps was part of why I dropped it). Only one of the ffxiii games I finished was the third, but it's pretty much objectively the worst. It was strangely addicting, though.

PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
April 08 2018 22:12 GMT
#189148
On April 09 2018 06:44 Nevuk wrote:
After playing ffxv for like 5 hours, I have a bad hot take : FFXIII had better combat

I saw a guy play through FFXV in what appears to be the optimal fashion: spam the melee rush spell, run away, regain mana by hanging off the sword, and rinse and repeat until the enemy is dead. Seems very one button-y and uninspiring, but it might just be a boring style thing.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-08 22:23:47
April 08 2018 22:13 GMT
#189149
I believe they got a port of P5 on a PS3 emulator, but it also got taken down. If I had the effort to dig that deeply online I'm sure I'd be able to find it. I think it's more realistic for me to play through P3 and P4 before borrowing a PS3 to play P5.
kiss kiss fall in love
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-08 22:42:49
April 08 2018 22:41 GMT
#189150
On April 09 2018 07:12 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 06:44 Nevuk wrote:
After playing ffxv for like 5 hours, I have a bad hot take : FFXIII had better combat

I saw a guy play through FFXV in what appears to be the optimal fashion: spam the melee rush spell, run away, regain mana by hanging off the sword, and rinse and repeat until the enemy is dead. Seems very one button-y and uninspiring, but it might just be a boring style thing.

This sounds right. It's like a shitty combination of xenoblade + ff13:lightning returns. You also get to re-experience the joys of flying in WoW, in the form of driving a car.


On April 09 2018 07:13 intotheheart wrote:
I believe they got a port of P5 on a PS3 emulator, but it also got taken down. If I had the effort to dig that deeply online I'm sure I'd be able to find it. I think it's more realistic for me to play through P3 and P4 before borrowing a PS3 to play P5.

It never got taken down? https://rpcs3.net/
There was a specific fork that ran p5 better, but I think all around it runs it fine now.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 08 2018 22:51 GMT
#189151
It may have been the advertisement saying the P5 emulation worked, to be honest? I'm not that sure. I'm aware the emulator itself wasn't touched by Atlus due to IP ownership/etc.
kiss kiss fall in love
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-08 22:55:43
April 08 2018 22:53 GMT
#189152
They had to remove all P5 related info from their stuff, but that's pretty much it.

They can't do much about the emulator itself.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 08 2018 23:08 GMT
#189153
just finished sangatsu s1, not sure if I want to watch s2

it's boring a f
only interesting subplot is his relationship with his foster sister
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Maverick_2009
Profile Joined December 2014
Somewhere2002 Posts
April 08 2018 23:24 GMT
#189154
ow i just finished episode 6 pls
https://www.twitch.tv/deso_739
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2835 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 01:38:40
April 09 2018 01:37 GMT
#189155
On April 09 2018 07:09 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 06:45 intotheheart wrote:
Which of the two would you recommend?

I'm not really far enough into FFXV to make a comment, tbh. FFXIII seems like it was more creative story-line wise. It was "almost" a really good game. Then they just kept making mistakes.
If you want an RPG from 2017 to play it should be persona 5 though (and I'm pretty sure it can be emulated on any pc that can run FFXV anyways).

FFXIII should be played on easy mode if you actually want to play it (easy vs hard is sorta a misnomer here - all that happens on easy is that the fights don't take 2-3 minutes+ for regular mobs, and like 15-30 for bosses...)
It's very over-dramatic, though. A lot of people recommend FFXIII-2 as being the best of the FFXIII games, but it's a bit different (it's a time hopping adventure where you only have two party members, as far as I could tell after like 20 hours, at which point I'd lost interest. My PC being unable to play it at 30 fps was part of why I dropped it). Only one of the ffxiii games I finished was the third, but it's pretty much objectively the worst. It was strangely addicting, though.



I actually went through all the FF games / JRPGs I like and noticed a theme in the partybuilding and narrative that lends itself towards being my favorite - that being what Chrono Trigger, FF6, and Xenoblade Chronicles (1) do. FFXIII's narrative didn't sit with me well because it forces you to hop between different pairings of its characters, and I found halfish (Hope, Snow, Vanille, Lightning) of the characters annoying... so I had to play through their parts of the story begrudgingly. FFXV, on the other hand, doesn't hop around characters that much - you stick with the same core of four dudes... buuuuut if you don't identify with those dudes or don't like them, you still have to put up with them singing annoying songs about chocobos and/or discovering recipes.

FF6, think Cyan is annoying? Don't use him and don't do his storylines! Setzer strike you as creepy? Let him just fly your airship and ignore him otherwise! Chrono trigger lets you be robo-racist or not use prehistoric bimbos, Xenoblade chronicles lets you pretend you rocket-kicked Riki the fuck off Bionis the second you found him and not use Reyn because you're afraid his stupidity is contagious.

Just something that struck me as interesting in my review of JRPGs. I think FFXV's core narrative structure of "The story of these four dudes and their adventures together" is stronger than FFXIII's "The story of these 8 people and how their individual stories entertwine and shit", but the "Choose your own group of people and explore their characters (or not) at your leisure" structure has shown up in some of my favorite RPGs and feels reaaaal strong.

That said I stopped playing FFXV when I got to some big city and it tried to force me to eat all this exposition and story nonsense.

-e- oh yeah FFX also follows the "Choose your own group" motif for the most part.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 09 2018 01:38 GMT
#189156
So do you love playing through stuff like Baldur's Gate, or DA:O?
kiss kiss fall in love
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 02:04:07
April 09 2018 02:00 GMT
#189157
On April 09 2018 06:44 Nevuk wrote:
After playing ffxv for like 5 hours, I have a bad hot take : FFXIII had better combat


I AGREE 100%. I am in the rare minority that actually liked ffxiii despite its many flaws. I couldn't finish xv. Its really bad. You don't care about the story at all, and the gameplay is nowhere near good enough to carry it. I have 100% completions on both xiii and xiii-2 tho so I am biased but ya... the difference between that and not being able to even finish the game is.... large. (DONT EVER TRY TO 100% XIII BTW)

And no girls in xv so im pretty sure its not for ith, or me either (<3 lightning in xiii)
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 09 2018 02:11 GMT
#189158
I remember some western feminists being up in arms about ffxv not having any female party members. But the game itself seems to be pure bait for yaoi fangirls.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
April 09 2018 02:34 GMT
#189159
i did not need to learn what yaoi was today
High Risk Low Reward
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2835 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 03:07:52
April 09 2018 02:56 GMT
#189160
On April 09 2018 10:38 intotheheart wrote:
So do you love playing through stuff like Baldur's Gate, or DA:O?


Dragon age dickpunching you with DLC you don't have made me resolve to not play it ever because -fuck- developers that think they can get away with that.

Baldur's Gate ironically has a bit of the same but nowhere near as offensive. I like Baldur's gate (and other western RPGs or w/e you wanna call em) but prefer when they bother to actually tell me a story. Both Tyranny and Pillars of Eternity felt like they did a good job at storytelling.

Also FFXIII's music is god-tier. Also a theme I noticed (FF6 and Chrono Trigger -also- have god-tier music).

Also Also I think I was very near FF13 100%. I remember there being one thing I hadn't killed, what google reminds me is an Undying named Attacus. I'd killed adamantoise and done every other mission, but I'd tried fighting that dude a couple times and never finished him.
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