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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
February 13 2018 17:32 GMT
#186321
we have a siege team?
i made the siege thread on the main site ages ago and no one seemed interested
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
February 13 2018 17:33 GMT
#186322
Is it as good as the TL Civilization team?
Maverick_2009
Profile Joined December 2014
Somewhere2002 Posts
February 13 2018 17:36 GMT
#186323
On February 14 2018 02:29 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 00:47 PoulsenB wrote:
Pączki Day (the Fat Thursday) was last Thursday, at least in Poland ;]

On February 13 2018 22:33 Unleashing wrote:
As far as i understood part of it is that some poles are angry at the term "polish death camps" because it implies/could be understood as though they were polish(made by the polish) rather than them being run by nazi germany in poland.

I'm sure one of our polish posters knows more.


Basically what Unleashing said. The phrase "polish death camps" appears from time to time in western mass media and every time some people in Poland lose their shit about it. It's been like this for years but now our government decided to launch a huge "educational" campaign about this issue for some reason. From what I heard it did more harm than good, especially when it comes to diplomacy. I didn't follow this idiocy very closely so I can't really give a more detailed story. Basically every time someone even implies that Poles killed or otherwise harmed Jews during WW2, right wing media and politicians go nuts about it because it contradicts their claims that it was only Nazis (or Germans) who did all the evil stuff. In reality there were numerous instances of Poles actively killing Jews (e.g. google "Jedwabne pogrom") or selling them out to the Nazis for money.

i never knew that lol
polish-americans celebrate it on tuesday for some reason

shrove tuesday, pancake day, idk what else it's called but i had cheap pancakes today so im not gonna complain
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7763 Posts
February 13 2018 17:44 GMT
#186324
On February 14 2018 02:33 SKC wrote:
Is it as good as the TL Civilization team?

did anything came out of that even apart from one article on the site?
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 13 2018 17:45 GMT
#186325
God Steam is so dumb. It takes a month to be able to buy from the market, then 1 week to be able to trade what you bought, and then you have to wait 2 weeks for the trade because it's "on hold"..
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-13 17:50:22
February 13 2018 17:50 GMT
#186326
On February 14 2018 02:44 PoulsenB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 02:33 SKC wrote:
Is it as good as the TL Civilization team?

did anything came out of that even apart from one article on the site?

Of course not.

It was always just the TL dude throwing his friend a bone. It's the same friend that plays in their "mobile division".

I have no idea why they made a huge splash with it and it was funny seeing people reporting on it as if it was actually a thing.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
February 13 2018 17:52 GMT
#186327
On February 14 2018 02:32 PassiveAce wrote:
we have a siege team?
i made the siege thread on the main site ages ago and no one seemed interested

Eas watching some Siege Invitational and suddenly "TEAM LIQUID VS..."
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 13 2018 18:18 GMT
#186328
On February 14 2018 02:45 Rocket-Bear wrote:
God Steam is so dumb. It takes a month to be able to buy from the market, then 1 week to be able to trade what you bought, and then you have to wait 2 weeks for the trade because it's "on hold"..

The app helps alleviate some of the problems. Trading is still awful though.
kiss kiss fall in love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 13 2018 18:43 GMT
#186329
I am still convinced the steam market place causes more problem in games that it is worth. PUBG's cheating problems seem to be compounded by teh fact that it has drops with rarity that can be sold on the market place. So where there is money to be made, there is increased cheating.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-13 18:49:26
February 13 2018 18:48 GMT
#186330
Cheating has nothing to do with drops.

Stuff like TF2 bots, sure. But cheating absolutelly not. Cheating doesn't increase your drop rate. Games with cheating problems are games where it is easy to cheat, plain and simple. FPS are ussually like that wether it has a market place or not. Cheating has always been a huge deal in CS, it was a big deal in WC3 Dota, plenty of MMOs, Diablo 2, pretty much any kind of game.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-13 18:53:07
February 13 2018 18:50 GMT
#186331
I mean, Cheating does increase your drop rate in pubg. You get battle points every game with more for kills/damage/placement etc, and battle points buy you the crates you can sell. However, it's kinda limited by the escalating costs of crates and you can bot for drops way more effectively than cheating for them IMO (plus cheating usually has more costs associated if you are seriously attempting to profit).

I agree that the steam marketplace really isn't driving cheating in pubg in any meaningful way. The problem is basically free accounts in chinese netcafes and the hilariously easy to bypass anticheat stuff.

There's also the part where you have 99 other enemies who could be cheating in pubg, so a 1% cheater rate means 1 cheater per game, whereas a 1% cheater rate in games like csgo means 1 in 10 games is ruined by cheaters.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-13 18:52:35
February 13 2018 18:52 GMT
#186332
Didn't know it worked like that in PUBG. It ussually doesn't.

Still, if you are going to cheat it has nothing to do with farming crates. There are far more efficient ways to cheat the system than installing a wallhack and actually playing the game.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 13 2018 19:54 GMT
#186333
On February 14 2018 03:52 SKC wrote:
Didn't know it worked like that in PUBG. It ussually doesn't.

Still, if you are going to cheat it has nothing to do with farming crates. There are far more efficient ways to cheat the system than installing a wallhack and actually playing the game.

But people are stupid and do stupid things for money. These folks are not rational actors and might just see the potential to make money as an added bonus.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
February 13 2018 20:11 GMT
#186334
Idk why but since loda rejoined alliance I'm happy to see them losing games. Or I'm enjoying theirs losses more than their wins.
Kinda mean.
passive quaranstream fan
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 13 2018 20:29 GMT
#186335
PUBG crates don't sell for what looks like enough money to make it profitable long-term though. Looks like you'd have to sell about 70 crates to earn back the game, and then you start getting profit.

Although it may work differently from how I think it does.
kiss kiss fall in love
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-13 20:41:32
February 13 2018 20:40 GMT
#186336
On February 14 2018 05:11 Artisreal wrote:
Idk why but since loda rejoined alliance I'm happy to see them losing games. Or I'm enjoying theirs losses more than their wins.
Kinda mean.

Loda never left alliance bro
literally the only player who never left
On February 14 2018 05:29 intotheheart wrote:
PUBG crates don't sell for what looks like enough money to make it profitable long-term though. Looks like you'd have to sell about 70 crates to earn back the game, and then you start getting profit.

Although it may work differently from how I think it does.

Yeah but crates are much more valuable on like release day, plus you get like 2-4 a week playing very casually, up to around 7 if you play a ton. So it doesn't take that long to make your money back.

Plus it's apparently much much cheaper to buy in china. Market forces and all that.

It's still not a serious money making endeavour unless you engage in skin prospecting (see: sirjolt lol)
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 13 2018 20:43 GMT
#186337
On February 14 2018 05:29 intotheheart wrote:
PUBG crates don't sell for what looks like enough money to make it profitable long-term though. Looks like you'd have to sell about 70 crates to earn back the game, and then you start getting profit.

Although it may work differently from how I think it does.

I think they are farming specific rare drops that sell on the market place. That is my understanding. It could all be bullshit. But I also though skin gambling in CS:GO was super stupid and bitcoin is set to overtake housing in energy use in Iceland. This future is super stupid, so PUBG crate farmers seems just dumb enough.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 13 2018 20:45 GMT
#186338
On February 14 2018 05:40 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 05:11 Artisreal wrote:
Idk why but since loda rejoined alliance I'm happy to see them losing games. Or I'm enjoying theirs losses more than their wins.
Kinda mean.

Loda never left alliance bro
literally the only player who never left
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 05:29 intotheheart wrote:
PUBG crates don't sell for what looks like enough money to make it profitable long-term though. Looks like you'd have to sell about 70 crates to earn back the game, and then you start getting profit.

Although it may work differently from how I think it does.

Yeah but crates are much more valuable on like release day, plus you get like 2-4 a week playing very casually, up to around 7 if you play a ton. So it doesn't take that long to make your money back.

Plus it's apparently much much cheaper to buy in china. Market forces and all that.

It's still not a serious money making endeavour unless you engage in skin prospecting (see: sirjolt lol)

May pick up PUBG for that if/when I get in the mood to play it.
kiss kiss fall in love
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
February 13 2018 20:50 GMT
#186339
On February 14 2018 05:40 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 05:11 Artisreal wrote:
Idk why but since loda rejoined alliance I'm happy to see them losing games. Or I'm enjoying theirs losses more than their wins.
Kinda mean.

Loda never left alliance bro
literally the only player who never left
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 05:29 intotheheart wrote:
PUBG crates don't sell for what looks like enough money to make it profitable long-term though. Looks like you'd have to sell about 70 crates to earn back the game, and then you start getting profit.

Although it may work differently from how I think it does.

Yeah but crates are much more valuable on like release day, plus you get like 2-4 a week playing very casually, up to around 7 if you play a ton. So it doesn't take that long to make your money back.

Plus it's apparently much much cheaper to buy in china. Market forces and all that.

It's still not a serious money making endeavour unless you engage in skin prospecting (see: sirjolt lol)

Left the active roster. Ma bad.
For a brief period.
passive quaranstream fan
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 13 2018 20:59 GMT
#186340
I mean didn't alliance just not have an active roster at that point? or am i crazy
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