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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 09 2014 22:27 GMT
#821
On December 10 2014 07:22 Plansix wrote:
Isn't that the idea. I mean, being a Pro-Gamer is pretty hand to mouth right now and some of these "teams" kinda suck when it comes to paying. I would rather people make teams under GG and be stable.

I just want to know if they are going to be able to play in MLG.

Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 07:22 Qbek wrote:
On December 10 2014 07:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
oh god
I can only imagine how many teams will want to sign with GGA if they get better streaming contracts for ad-revenue and such

like it's actually impossible to compete with that for the vast majority of sponsors.

Someone email the sponsrs american anti-monopoly thing


They are nowhere near antitrust anything at this point. They need all the market share in video entertainment to be there.

I mean there's kinda a conflict of interest where twitch has significant incentive to harm streamers associated with different brands.

Not that I think it will happen especially since many many streamers (like say EE) make twitch a lot of money while not being associated with GGA but still.

Also GGA teams have never been close to hand-to-mouth ever since dota 2 came around and their primary competitors in terms of big organizations (na'vi, C9, etc) don't have that issue either.

Teams that are hand-to-mouth are teams that GGA has no interest in picking up anyway.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 09 2014 22:30 GMT
#822
Can't argue with that. And I don't know how Twitch will treat the whole MLG thing. Part of me thinks they will go all protectionist, but I could see them just working a deal out with MLG for EG and Alliance. Some money changing hands is likely better than a huge public reddit dumb drama feast.

Though that would be very Esports.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 09 2014 22:32 GMT
#823
I think its way more likely for MLG to turn down GGA teams if they feature prominent twitch branding than for GGA to turn down MLG tournaments due to a lack of streaming on twitch.

Not that I particularly expect either to happen. If there ever were two organizations who understand where the other is coming from, its GGA and MLG.
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Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
December 09 2014 22:42 GMT
#824
On December 10 2014 07:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
If there ever were two organizations who understand where the other is coming from, its GGA and MLG.



People are afraid this will change. I don't think it is. These people and organizations respect each other's effort so much they wouldn't hurt everything they built just to make money.

If anything I think this move has more to do with Steam and Vale streaming than anything else.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 09 2014 23:51 GMT
#825
I think I just got Ebola from reading this on TL help:

On December 10 2014 08:28 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 08:25 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On December 10 2014 08:12 NeThZOR wrote:
But EG Dota 2 is disbanding so why care about this


Where did you get this from?

They got 3-0'd by team Secret. That was a total humiliation. I heard Alex Garfield isnt happy with this situation

Some say Alex Garfield going to replace EG with team Secret.

Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
December 10 2014 00:00 GMT
#826
On December 10 2014 08:51 teddyoojo wrote:
I think I just got Ebola from reading this on TL help:

Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 08:28 Mensol wrote:
On December 10 2014 08:25 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On December 10 2014 08:12 NeThZOR wrote:
But EG Dota 2 is disbanding so why care about this


Where did you get this from?

They got 3-0'd by team Secret. That was a total humiliation. I heard Alex Garfield isnt happy with this situation

Some say Alex Garfield going to replace EG with team Secret.




"I heard from sources that exist within my alter ego as a known esports personality"

thats how i read that
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2522 Posts
December 10 2014 00:08 GMT
#827
Some also say that if you stick enough bottle rockets in your ass, you can fly.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
December 10 2014 00:13 GMT
#828
whos mensol
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
December 10 2014 00:19 GMT
#829
On December 10 2014 09:13 Targe wrote:
whos mensol

Someone we never want back on LD.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 10 2014 00:33 GMT
#830
On December 10 2014 09:19 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:13 Targe wrote:
whos mensol

Someone we never want back on LD.

He was not fun, for sure.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9489 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 00:40:41
December 10 2014 00:38 GMT
#831

nvm
© Current year.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
December 10 2014 00:40 GMT
#832
ya theres a thread on it already and that article is not the one that announces the deal lol

in other news, The Pirate Bay just got seized and the site went down. this is big news.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9489 Posts
December 10 2014 00:46 GMT
#833
it can get rehosted quite quickly thanks to magnets
© Current year.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
December 10 2014 00:46 GMT
#834
So that's why I couldn't open the site.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9489 Posts
December 10 2014 00:46 GMT
#835
only eg fans don't want mensol back i think
© Current year.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
December 10 2014 01:09 GMT
#836
On December 10 2014 09:40 BluemoonSC wrote:
ya theres a thread on it already and that article is not the one that announces the deal lol

in other news, The Pirate Bay just got seized and the site went down. this is big news.

i thought this had happened, none of the mirrors were up
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8908 Posts
December 10 2014 01:16 GMT
#837
On December 10 2014 09:46 CorsairHero wrote:
it can get rehosted quite quickly thanks to magnets


they seized all of their equipment and took a number of torrent sites with them.

i dont think we will see it rehosted any time in the near future
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 10 2014 01:41 GMT
#838
On December 10 2014 10:16 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:46 CorsairHero wrote:
it can get rehosted quite quickly thanks to magnets


they seized all of their equipment and took a number of torrent sites with them.

i dont think we will see it rehosted any time in the near future

It was only a matter of time. Just like the guy from Silk Road, the guys who ran Pirate Bay were into some other not so legal stuff on the side.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
December 10 2014 03:04 GMT
#839
who's "they"
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Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
December 10 2014 04:09 GMT
#840
On December 10 2014 12:04 andyrau wrote:
who's "they"

Swedish Police were the ones who raided and seized the servers and equipment of The Pirate Bay.
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