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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
July 08 2015 01:36 GMT
#50821
Is someone trying to argue that playing Naga doesn't take skill?

I mean, core Naga can be one of the most boring things on Earth to watch, but I don't know how you can seriously contest the fact that the hero takes major skill.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 01:41:08
July 08 2015 01:39 GMT
#50822
i think most good naga players will tell you the hero is pretty easy because most of it is just mechanics and map presence which they don't even think about

obviously most of us are not those players, and the difference between a good naga and a bad one is a lot more noticeable than most heroes
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 01:45:23
July 08 2015 01:40 GMT
#50823
the hard part of naga is in lategame decisionmaking of how much you can actually get away with using your hero in fights / song timing/placement (mostly relevant in the rare close game where you can't just win by brainless illu pushing forever)

also in hard games figuring out where to go to safely cut waves and stall the game out without actually dying

i guarantee that there's a ton of mediocre nagas who look good at farming and cutting waves and staying alive but lose the game for their team because they dont take fights that they actually can (and of course conversely, a ton of nagas who lose games by thinking they can fight when they cant)
posting on liquid sites in current year
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
July 08 2015 01:42 GMT
#50824
On July 08 2015 10:39 l3loodraven wrote:
i think most good naga players will tell you the hero is pretty easy because most of it is just mechanics and map presence which they don't even think about

obviously most of us are not those players, and the difference between a good naga and a bad one is a lot more noticeable than most heroes

Anyone will tell you that one of their best heroes is one of the easiest to play. That's just what being good at a hero means.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 01:48:10
July 08 2015 01:46 GMT
#50825
yes but in terms of how the hero functions and the actions you have to successfully input most of them are very basic, very little precision required compared to most heroes, except for song ofc...there's just a lot of them
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
July 08 2015 01:48 GMT
#50826
And of course there's the famous RTZ last-hitting with illusions in multiple lanes at once.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 01:50:25
July 08 2015 01:49 GMT
#50827
a lot of players can and do do that, but against dangerous heroes it can get you killed very easily

what am i even saying high level naga is obviously hard as fuck to play, i was just being contrary lmao
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
July 08 2015 01:50 GMT
#50828
I half figured as much.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
July 08 2015 01:53 GMT
#50829
On July 08 2015 10:03 Crusnik wrote:
I'm dodging that one, I hate playing naga and my internet is shit currently, so I barely play.

Forcing yourself to use one hand after playing with two for so many years would also be really hard and take a conscious effort, I don't have the multitasking to do that, i'd get bored/pissed off before 5 minutes had passed.


O rly tell me more about playing with only one hand
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
July 08 2015 01:53 GMT
#50830
speaking of naga im pretty sure the most OP item right now is BoTs, especially in pubs
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 08 2015 02:01 GMT
#50831
Transistor is still a good game.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
July 08 2015 02:07 GMT
#50832
On July 08 2015 10:53 l3loodraven wrote:
speaking of naga im pretty sure the most OP item right now is BoTs, especially in pubs

Nonsense. Most broken item is Boots of Speed. It needs a major nerf so we can see some variety in item builds.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 02:12:30
July 08 2015 02:12 GMT
#50833
idk is picking slark even dirty?

that hero doesn't even do anything in laning phase and u get FUCKED and have to come back from ur team being retarded every game and then u have to 1v5 the entire team for 30 mins and JESUS its hard

hero isn't even good this patch tho
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
July 08 2015 02:12 GMT
#50834
Not any longer. You need to step up your filth game.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
July 08 2015 02:20 GMT
#50835
On July 08 2015 11:12 Comeh wrote:
idk is picking slark even dirty?

that hero doesn't even do anything in laning phase and u get FUCKED and have to come back from ur team being retarded every game and then u have to 1v5 the entire team for 30 mins and JESUS its hard

hero isn't even good this patch tho


Agreed and that makes me sad bc I love slark
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
July 08 2015 02:32 GMT
#50836
top filth atm bs pl gyro lesh storm

obligatory mention for anyone who still picks es
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
July 08 2015 02:44 GMT
#50837
NAGA IS EASY.
she actually is
take skill lmaooo
arent most of u RTS players...
i mean i was playing aoe since i was 6-7 or something
and microing 3 illusions is ez
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
July 08 2015 02:45 GMT
#50838
I would love to be a dirty ES picker, but my ability to press buttons is super questionable.

Seriously I'm not sure how I've made it to 4k with my current level of button pressing. I guess I'm just easy to carry or something.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
July 08 2015 02:45 GMT
#50839
On July 08 2015 11:01 Plansix wrote:
Transistor is still a good game.

beat that game 3 times...
so good
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 02:47:55
July 08 2015 02:46 GMT
#50840
theeban losing to a 4.2 skywrath exxxdeeeeee
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
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