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SpiritoftheTunA
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
dmca, child porn, threatening language etc if you look back historically there are a billion other examples im with you about private property but having roads and shit named after confederate generals etc is really dumb | ||
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Shaella
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On June 27 2015 01:26 Plansix wrote: It ok, the Holy and Sacrosanct Free Market has spoken and everyone isn't selling it because they realized that racists are a tiny part marketing demographic that is shrinking. Because while letting the government control free speech si bad, letting the mega-corporations that are nearing its size and power do it is totally better. This is a legitimate worry of mine. | ||
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Targe
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i thoguht america is meant to be free | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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eieio
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SpiritoftheTunA
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On June 27 2015 01:29 PassiveAce wrote: we actually do censor stuff dmca, child porn, threatening language etc if you look back historically there are a billion other examples im with you about private property but having roads and shit named after confederate generals etc is really dumb Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson are not inherently evil men because they fought for the confederacy. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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BUT WHAT DO I KNOW | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 27 2015 01:32 Shaella wrote: Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson are not inherently evil men because they fought for the confederacy. They just went to war with the US to protect slavery and now there are schools named after them that black children go to. | ||
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PassiveAce
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eieio
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Shaella
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On June 27 2015 01:33 Plansix wrote: They just went to war with the US to protect slavery and now there are schools named after them that black children go to. They were also some of the greatest military commanders that fought for the US before the war, and Lee again after the war, and who were incredibly compassionate. Robert E. Lee himself is one of the reasons the southern states are as incorporated into the union as they are today, were he not such a great and gracious man, we would probably live in a country where the south was even more divided from the rest of the nation. | ||
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eieio
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SpiritoftheTunA
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history is complicated not like the details of history has anything to do with the political moves of naming schools n roads n shit after him Lee privately ridiculed the Confederacy in letters in early 1861, denouncing secession as "revolution" and a betrayal of the efforts of the founders. Writing to his son William Fitzhugh, Lee stated, "I can anticipate no greater calamity for the country than a dissolution of the Union." While he was not opposed in principle to secession, Lee wanted all peaceful ways of resolving the differences between North and South—such as the Crittenden Compromise—to be tried first, and was one of the few to foresee a long and difficult war. | ||
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Mecha King Ghidorah
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On June 27 2015 01:36 eieio wrote: shaella would you say you're offended at the idea of banning the confederate flag i'm triggered at the idea of banning stuff Germany's ban of the swastika is silly. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 27 2015 01:35 Shaella wrote: They were also some of the greatest military commanders that fought for the US before the war, and Lee again after the war, and who were incredibly compassionate. Robert E. Lee himself is one of the reasons the southern states are as incorporated into the union as they are today, were he not such a great and gracious man, we would probably live in a country where the south was even more divided from the rest of the nation. I was mostly talking about Jackson, since he died during the war. And I get Lee did nice stuff after the war, but maybe celebrating him like one of the founding fathers or a WW2 vets is a bit much. | ||
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PassiveAce
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Shaella
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On June 27 2015 01:38 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote: Actually a lot of the generals fought in the Confederacy/Union due to state loyalties rather than views. Back then people identified more with their state than the country (for example if you asked someone what identified with tehy would say "I'm a Texan/Floridian/New Yorker/etc rather than "I'm an American.). Indeed, if you look at it in a more historical context the big changes that created a more 'american' identity didn't really form until after the civil war. | ||
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