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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 26 2015 16:06 GMT
#47901
Isn't it just retailers that are not carrying the flag?
My understanding is that you're perfectly entitled to own and fly one if you want, it's just that some stores aren't stocking them anymore.
kiss kiss fall in love
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
June 26 2015 16:07 GMT
#47902
On June 27 2015 01:05 PassiveAce wrote:
i just dont want to be in a position where the confederate flag has to be censored in video games like the swastika was in germany

It's allowed in art, but funny thing, the german government didnt like video games enough to consider them art.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 26 2015 16:09 GMT
#47903
On June 27 2015 01:07 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 01:05 PassiveAce wrote:
i just dont want to be in a position where the confederate flag has to be censored in video games like the swastika was in germany

It's allowed in art, but funny thing, the german government didnt like video games enough to consider them art.

To be fair, a lot of vocal video game fans seem to agree that they don't like it when its treated as an art form either.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 16:10:34
June 26 2015 16:09 GMT
#47904
videogames confer too much plebe-flavored enjoyment; real art is meant to be stared at (or listened to or whatever) with a look of contemplation

like are games at a fair art of course they arent
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 26 2015 16:10 GMT
#47905
Did you just go full Roger Ebert?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 26 2015 16:11 GMT
#47906
Poll: Is the name tag 'Chick' for the Cluckles courier gud

No, morenaswhtini is wrong (4)
 
57%

Yes (3)
 
43%

7 total votes

Your vote: Is the name tag 'Chick' for the Cluckles courier gud

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No, morenaswhtini is wrong



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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 26 2015 16:12 GMT
#47907
On June 27 2015 01:11 Targe wrote:
Poll: Is the name tag 'Chick' for the Cluckles courier gud

No, morenaswhtini is wrong (4)
 
57%

Yes (3)
 
43%

7 total votes

Your vote: Is the name tag 'Chick' for the Cluckles courier gud

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No, morenaswhtini is wrong



im offdend

No. It just isn't.
I would've preferred "Popeye's"
Or "Cheeky Nando's."
kiss kiss fall in love
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 16:16:48
June 26 2015 16:13 GMT
#47908
ofc games are art if i have to explain why ur retarded.
and before you say it, y ebert was retarded he gave orgazmo and team america 1 star each
-whoops i used is instead of was haha matt and trey won like 15 tonys suck it deadman
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 26 2015 16:14 GMT
#47909
my actual personal position is that i dont give a shit what people think are and aren't art; everything is potentially art

but who cares honestly fuk
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 16:15:36
June 26 2015 16:14 GMT
#47910
I think this discussion happened in LLL or LLOT recently and Yango(?)made the argument that since it's hard to imagine a game being designed for a purpose other than fun, there's a reasonable argument to be made that video games aren't necessarily an art form yet

actually passive was just telling me about this siq political game he's designing that seems super cool and maybe not art but certainly an interesting use of the genre I'm sure his opinion is more informed than mine also I need to pack I'm supposed to leave and I haven't packed OOPS
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 26 2015 16:15 GMT
#47911
i rly hate this kind of semantic discussion tbh imo for the same reason i hate many 'philosophical' discussions
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 26 2015 16:15 GMT
#47912
What about Spec Ops: The Line?

kiss kiss fall in love
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 26 2015 16:16 GMT
#47913
people do make video games where fun doesnt come first just like movies FUCKFUCKFUCK JUST DONT GET ME STARTED PLEASE I WONT BE ABLE OT STOP
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 16:18:50
June 26 2015 16:17 GMT
#47914
On June 27 2015 01:16 PassiveAce wrote:
people do make video games where fun doesnt come first just like movies FUCKFUCKFUCK JUST DONT GET ME STARTED PLEASE I WONT BE ABLE OT STOP

think of how antifun dota is it must be art

I'm sure what we all want to discuss is HATS where are our HATS 3
well its a 3 gg honestly never coming
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 16:23:25
June 26 2015 16:18 GMT
#47915
Spec Ops the line is good. Games like Proteus, Sometimes Always Monsters and other weird little games are totally pieces too. Like film and every other art form, its going to be the small, experimental stuff that pushes the big budget stuff forward.

On June 27 2015 01:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 01:16 PassiveAce wrote:
people do make video games where fun doesnt come first just like movies FUCKFUCKFUCK JUST DONT GET ME STARTED PLEASE I WONT BE ABLE OT STOP

think of how antifun dota is it must be art


There is a core argument there about chasing the emotional high of the "big come back" that only dota and other competitive games provide.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 16:20:24
June 26 2015 16:18 GMT
#47916
games where fun comes first and/or fun is the only draw can be art too if you drop enough acid
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
June 26 2015 16:18 GMT
#47917
On June 27 2015 01:16 PassiveAce wrote:
people do make video games where fun doesnt come first just like movies FUCKFUCKFUCK JUST DONT GET ME STARTED PLEASE I WONT BE ABLE OT STOP

ya ok kiddo what do you even know about games I talked to someone yesterday whos going to school for game design Im sure i know more about games than you do
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 26 2015 16:19 GMT
#47918


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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
June 26 2015 16:23 GMT
#47919
On June 27 2015 01:01 PassiveAce wrote:
theres actually a really interesting argument about whether wer gonna go the german route of banning the confederate flag from sale and private display.
Hillary came out and said it shouldnt be sold anywhere

thats not an interesting argument

we're not a country of censorship, that would be censorship

We don't need to ban the confederate flag.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 26 2015 16:26 GMT
#47920
It ok, the Holy and Sacrosanct Free Market has spoken and everyone isn't selling it because they realized that racists are a tiny part marketing demographic that is shrinking.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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