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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 19 2015 15:57 GMT
#45581
i think we look at the game differently
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 16:43:24
June 19 2015 16:42 GMT
#45582
i remember back in uni some pharmacology-related prof came in to sub for one of my other professors and he told the class that anyone who ever works in the field knows that adderall is a bogus drug originally made for the military and that adhd was an imaginary condition with no scientific/medical basis, designed to create an artificial market for the drug

i wasn't sure whether he was just nuts or telling the truth im inclined to go with the latter
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
June 19 2015 16:45 GMT
#45583
Why does this thread always get weird when I leave
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
June 19 2015 16:55 GMT
#45584
it isnt weird when ur on crack
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 19 2015 16:55 GMT
#45585
cuz ur the nromal one
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 19 2015 16:58 GMT
#45586
On June 20 2015 01:42 andyrau wrote:
i remember back in uni some pharmacology-related prof came in to sub for one of my other professors and he told the class that anyone who ever works in the field knows that adderall is a bogus drug originally made for the military and that adhd was an imaginary condition with no scientific/medical basis, designed to create an artificial market for the drug

i wasn't sure whether he was just nuts or telling the truth im inclined to go with the latter

When people tell me that medical conditions are not real because its supposed to drive the drug market, I just move on ask them about chem-trails and the military exercises in Texas. I like to get right to the core of their insane theories.

Also, ADHD was first categorized in the 60s and was treated way earlier. The guy is full of shit.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 19 2015 17:06 GMT
#45587
ok i cant resist
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 19 2015 17:07 GMT
#45588
tralf is singing some backstreet boys / N-Sync
High Risk Low Reward
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
June 19 2015 17:07 GMT
#45589
Accept your new CIS overlords.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 19 2015 17:09 GMT
#45590
its really a philosophical question whether blah blah blah needs to be blah blah blah and having blah labels is the qualification for receiving blah medication when maybe access to blah medication should be a personal choice regardless of whether or not blah blah blah officially diagnosed blah blah blah medical establishment im bored give me drugs
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 19 2015 17:11 GMT
#45591
im all for legalizing all the drugs so that i can take all of htem
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 17:17:36
June 19 2015 17:15 GMT
#45592
On June 20 2015 01:58 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2015 01:42 andyrau wrote:
i remember back in uni some pharmacology-related prof came in to sub for one of my other professors and he told the class that anyone who ever works in the field knows that adderall is a bogus drug originally made for the military and that adhd was an imaginary condition with no scientific/medical basis, designed to create an artificial market for the drug

i wasn't sure whether he was just nuts or telling the truth im inclined to go with the latter

When people tell me that medical conditions are not real because its supposed to drive the drug market, I just move on ask them about chem-trails and the military exercises in Texas. I like to get right to the core of their insane theories.

Also, ADHD was first categorized in the 60s and was treated way earlier. The guy is full of shit.

see that's what i thought and then i went to see a psychiatrist cause back in my freshman year i was trying to trick the guy into giving me a prescription for adderall.
the guy knew what i was after and he gave it to me, but he also told me a less extreme version of that professor's story. he also added that most psychiatrists are inclined to diagnose and prescribe medication for adhd just off a simple series of questions.


so from what i've read and from what i've personally experienced i think that nutty story holds some truth

i dont think the condition is fake but i think it's overdiagnosed.
kids/parents that are convinced they have adhd are externalizing the problem, and to me attempting to solve a lack of interest/focus with a narcotic seems rather silly.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 17:24:19
June 19 2015 17:20 GMT
#45593
The guy's right about Adderall being made by the military. Amphetamines were popular work drugs during WWII for both sides. However, he's definitely wrong about ADHD not being a thing. Actually, if memory serves, it's not even a disorder: it's a trait that's been selected for. African (forget which country specifically) shepherds with ADHD do a much better job at watching over their flocks because they're easily "distracted" by small details like the faint movement of a wolf sneaking up. ADHD just happens to be extremely unsuited to classroom environments.

Whether or not medication is excessively prescribed is a different issue entirely, and I lean towards yes. Not because of some doctor/pharma conspiracy, mind, but because Americans have this fetish for easy, perfect solutions.

Amphetamines ain't narcotics, though.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 19 2015 17:24 GMT
#45594
adderall is just like ritalin yeah?
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 19 2015 17:25 GMT
#45595
On June 20 2015 02:24 Targe wrote:
adderall is just like ritalin yeah?

Adderall is speed, Ritalin is more meth-like
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 19 2015 17:28 GMT
#45596
wait what im pretty sure amphetamines are a controlled substance that affects mood (to an extent) and has a chance of dependency

isnt that what defines a narcotic
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 19 2015 17:28 GMT
#45597
On June 20 2015 02:25 Acritter wrote:
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On June 20 2015 02:24 Targe wrote:
adderall is just like ritalin yeah?

Adderall is speed, Ritalin is more meth-like

i know what ritalin is like

11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 17:30:02
June 19 2015 17:28 GMT
#45598
On June 20 2015 02:28 andyrau wrote:
wait what im pretty sure amphetamines are a controlled substance that affects mood (to an extent) and has a chance of dependency

isnt that what defines a narcotic

No

from the literal definition it's something that induces sleep, but in modern parlance for some reason it means anything derived from coca or poppies (which obviously doesn't include amphetamines)

look it up if you want more details
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 17:31:02
June 19 2015 17:30 GMT
#45599
oh alright
well i googled it and the dictionary definition of narcotic is different from the medical/legal definition of narcotic
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 17:31:53
June 19 2015 17:30 GMT
#45600
On June 20 2015 02:28 andyrau wrote:
wait what im pretty sure amphetamines are a controlled substance that affects mood (to an extent) and has a chance of dependency

isnt that what defines a narcotic


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcotic

The term narcotic (/nɑrˈkɒtɨk/, from ancient Greek ναρκῶ narkō, "to make numb") originally referred medically to any psychoactive compound with any sleep-inducing properties

Stimulants do not make you sleepy. It used to be used for all drugs that were "illegal" because a lot of stimulants could be bought over the counter.
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