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Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 13:27:49
June 04 2015 13:26 GMT
#41541
If i paid 10 € for a game and it took less than 2 hours to finish i'd definitely want my money back regardless of if i finished it, and with the new system i can do just that! Yay!

Less than 2 hours is worth like... 2€ at the very most for me, probably more like 1€.

Also a 5 minute requirement to write a review isn't a hard entry point and isn't unfair in any way, you don't need to actively play for steam to count playtime anyway lmao.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 04 2015 13:28 GMT
#41542
i mean a game that takes less than 2 hours now should very clearly advertise that it takes less than 2 hours and theres no way u play that game for more than 2 hours and only then it should not have a refund option if u paly it less than 2 hours

also i dont trust cynic so someone real give me an answer google is fucking useless

can u actually eat the green and the white?
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
June 04 2015 13:30 GMT
#41543
Holy fuck teddy you suck at rl.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
June 04 2015 13:31 GMT
#41544
On June 04 2015 22:22 Plansix wrote:
Cameron Kunzelman is a dude, first off. And the Nina Freeman is offering digital novels in short form and is selling them for a price to match. And I agree with the assessment that people should be able to write a review if they complete a game. She is also super cool.

Why you gotta be a jerk to people making short little things on Steam?

Come on, even free flash games offer a bazillion times more content then what she's selling. I'm critical of it because I do not deem a 2-3 minute "game" something to be worth paying for. And certainly no argument that holds any validity in the context of critising a great feature like steam refunds. The way they blow everything out of proportions is ridiculous.

"Waah mummy, people (the 3 or so guys who bought her game) can't review it because I want to sell something that provides less than 5 minutes of entertainment, therefore this great feature that's potentially preventing tons of abuse and forcing devs to make better games is garbage. Totally discriminating against us independent thinkers who totally aren't moneygrubbers ourselves!" Is really not a well thought out position to have.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 04 2015 13:32 GMT
#41545
what do u want im young like i fucking know how to cook properly
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44296 Posts
June 04 2015 13:32 GMT
#41546
On June 04 2015 22:21 teddyoojo wrote:
help
i bought this
[image loading]
and want to put it in my food
i assume u eat the green part? just cutting it into small pieces?

i know two similar green stuff to that but i can't figure out which one you brought

either the one which is just sliced and added on soups or the one that is used to make the rice smell nice
this is a quote
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 04 2015 13:33 GMT
#41547
On June 04 2015 22:28 teddyoojo wrote:
i mean a game that takes less than 2 hours now should very clearly advertise that it takes less than 2 hours and theres no way u play that game for more than 2 hours and only then it should not have a refund option if u paly it less than 2 hours

also i dont trust cynic so someone real give me an answer google is fucking useless

can u actually eat the green and the white?

Both, its fine. We put them on pizza yesterday. Cynic is correct that its an onion and you should just treat it like one.

And the games that are only 2 hours in steam are pretty clearly marked by their low price point of $1-2 max. Some of them are from game-jams where people cranked them out in a couple of days and they just want feedback on their design.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 04 2015 13:35 GMT
#41548
this is not a spring onion its porree tho
wahtever im just cutting off the bottom and throw everything else in
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 13:36:11
June 04 2015 13:35 GMT
#41549
IDK you spend at least 10 bucks at a theater for a movie that lasts 2 hours i dont see why thats a bad price for a short game.

videogamers are just overly entitled little fucking pricks
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 13:36:48
June 04 2015 13:35 GMT
#41550
On June 04 2015 22:28 teddyoojo wrote:
i mean a game that takes less than 2 hours now should very clearly advertise that it takes less than 2 hours and theres no way u play that game for more than 2 hours and only then it should not have a refund option if u paly it less than 2 hours

also i dont trust cynic so someone real give me an answer google is fucking useless

can u actually eat the green and the white?

You're a fucking pheasant man, it's called a lauchzwiebel in German, google it. :D

Oh, if it's leek you can do whatever with it, but doesn't taste so great. Just cut off the root.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 13:41:46
June 04 2015 13:36 GMT
#41551
On June 04 2015 22:31 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 22:22 Plansix wrote:
Cameron Kunzelman is a dude, first off. And the Nina Freeman is offering digital novels in short form and is selling them for a price to match. And I agree with the assessment that people should be able to write a review if they complete a game. She is also super cool.

Why you gotta be a jerk to people making short little things on Steam?

Come on, even free flash games offer a bazillion times more content then what she's selling. I'm critical of it because I do not deem a 2-3 minute "game" something to be worth paying for. And certainly no argument that holds any validity in the context of critising a great feature like steam refunds. The way they blow everything out of proportions is ridiculous.

"Waah mummy, people (the 3 or so guys who bought her game) can't review it because I want to sell something that provides less than 5 minutes of entertainment, therefore this great feature that's potentially preventing tons of abuse and forcing devs to make better games is garbage. Totally discriminating against us independent thinkers who totally aren't moneygrubbers ourselves!" Is really not a well thought out position to have.

Her games are free on her website too. She is totally in it for the money. A 30 second google search would have told you that. She wants feedback and reviews on her work and is bummed that steam doesn't allow that.

Why are you such an asshole? Did her pink hair offend you?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 04 2015 13:37 GMT
#41552
plz i know what to do with spring onions but porree thats something new for me
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
June 04 2015 13:39 GMT
#41553
Tarte Flambee comes to mind, if you like pizza.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
June 04 2015 13:46 GMT
#41554
On June 04 2015 22:36 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 22:31 dismiss wrote:
On June 04 2015 22:22 Plansix wrote:
Cameron Kunzelman is a dude, first off. And the Nina Freeman is offering digital novels in short form and is selling them for a price to match. And I agree with the assessment that people should be able to write a review if they complete a game. She is also super cool.

Why you gotta be a jerk to people making short little things on Steam?

Come on, even free flash games offer a bazillion times more content then what she's selling. I'm critical of it because I do not deem a 2-3 minute "game" something to be worth paying for. And certainly no argument that holds any validity in the context of critising a great feature like steam refunds. The way they blow everything out of proportions is ridiculous.

"Waah mummy, people (the 3 or so guys who bought her game) can't review it because I want to sell something that provides less than 5 minutes of entertainment, therefore this great feature that's potentially preventing tons of abuse and forcing devs to make better games is garbage. Totally discriminating against us independent thinkers who totally aren't moneygrubbers ourselves!" Is really not a well thought out position to have.

Her games are free on her website too. She is totally in it for the money. A 30 second google search would have told you that. She wants feedback and reviews on her work and is bummed that steam doesn't allow that.

Why are you such an asshole? Did her pink hair offend you?

You're clearly misconstruing the article's intentions though. It mentions a dev who's selling games shorter than two hours, and thus doesn't like the refund system but at the same time is fairly indifferent about it because "she doesn't make much off of it anyway". There are very explicit examples of devs trying to monetise games this short given, along witht heir opinion that it'd unjustly punish them for making games this short. That's just silly, and indeed what I am criticising the most.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
June 04 2015 13:46 GMT
#41555
It looks like you have bought a leek!
If you are Welsh you can wear it.
Otherwise feel free to eat it. See here for what to do with it.
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
June 04 2015 13:47 GMT
#41556
On June 04 2015 22:37 teddyoojo wrote:
plz i know what to do with spring onions but porree thats something new for me

http://www.chefkoch.de/rezepte/1578721265354850/Hackfleisch-Lauch-Suppe.html try this
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44296 Posts
June 04 2015 13:50 GMT
#41557
On June 04 2015 22:35 teddyoojo wrote:
this is not a spring onion its porree tho
wahtever im just cutting off the bottom and throw everything else in

i think just cut the bottom thing .. the white part should be edible
this is a quote
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
June 04 2015 13:52 GMT
#41558
Why the fuck does this place not have a quality cooking thread where we can just talk about ingredients and how to make food better or receipes and shit sounds fun guys
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-04 13:55:33
June 04 2015 13:53 GMT
#41559
On June 04 2015 22:46 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 22:36 Plansix wrote:
On June 04 2015 22:31 dismiss wrote:
On June 04 2015 22:22 Plansix wrote:
Cameron Kunzelman is a dude, first off. And the Nina Freeman is offering digital novels in short form and is selling them for a price to match. And I agree with the assessment that people should be able to write a review if they complete a game. She is also super cool.

Why you gotta be a jerk to people making short little things on Steam?

Come on, even free flash games offer a bazillion times more content then what she's selling. I'm critical of it because I do not deem a 2-3 minute "game" something to be worth paying for. And certainly no argument that holds any validity in the context of critising a great feature like steam refunds. The way they blow everything out of proportions is ridiculous.

"Waah mummy, people (the 3 or so guys who bought her game) can't review it because I want to sell something that provides less than 5 minutes of entertainment, therefore this great feature that's potentially preventing tons of abuse and forcing devs to make better games is garbage. Totally discriminating against us independent thinkers who totally aren't moneygrubbers ourselves!" Is really not a well thought out position to have.

Her games are free on her website too. She is totally in it for the money. A 30 second google search would have told you that. She wants feedback and reviews on her work and is bummed that steam doesn't allow that.

Why are you such an asshole? Did her pink hair offend you?

You're clearly misconstruing the article's intentions though. It mentions a dev who's selling games shorter than two hours, and thus doesn't like the refund system but at the same time is fairly indifferent about it because "she doesn't make much off of it anyway". There are very explicit examples of devs trying to monetise games this short given, along witht heir opinion that it'd unjustly punish them for making games this short. That's just silly, and indeed what I am criticising the most.

So because they make short games and they shouldn't discuss issues with the refund system could cause? You will notice that none of them are asking for the refund system to be removed, only that it take into account short games.

I am failing to see what the issue is. These people make games that are short and would like to make sure people don't abuse the system on their games. The article even has a dev who says the system is great and just needs to be tweaked.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
June 04 2015 14:03 GMT
#41560
why do these euros have to bring sexism into everything sometimes a videogame is just a videogame man stop being oversensitive
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