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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
May 19 2015 12:38 GMT
#36441
Watching Rtz on stream and tinker can refresh greaves. Volvo fix pls.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 19 2015 12:40 GMT
#36442
He can only get mana from doing it due to the debuff from the heal, but yeah it works and seems to be intended since it wasn't fixed yet and would be very easy to fix.

Not sure it's worth it though tbh, pretty expensive.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 19 2015 13:03 GMT
#36443
I would rather be home playing the Witcher right now, but instead I am writing this stupid letter explaining how simple addition works.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 13:21:37
May 19 2015 13:21 GMT
#36444
On May 19 2015 21:38 SkelA wrote:
Watching Rtz on stream and tinker can refresh greaves. Volvo fix pls.

Tinker could always refresh mana boots iirc. It just doesn't give enough mana to justify it. Not sure though if that is still true. Maybe with level 1 rearm it could be okay.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
May 19 2015 13:23 GMT
#36445
On May 19 2015 22:21 Jinxed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 21:38 SkelA wrote:
Watching Rtz on stream and tinker can refresh greaves. Volvo fix pls.

Tinker could always refresh mana boots iirc. It just doesn't give enough mana to justify it. Not sure though if that is still true. Maybe with level 1 rearm it could be okay.


I dunno about that.
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Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 19 2015 13:28 GMT
#36446
On May 19 2015 22:21 Jinxed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 21:38 SkelA wrote:
Watching Rtz on stream and tinker can refresh greaves. Volvo fix pls.

Tinker could always refresh mana boots iirc. It just doesn't give enough mana to justify it. Not sure though if that is still true. Maybe with level 1 rearm it could be okay.

You remember wrong
These items can't be refreshed:
Arcane boots, BKB, Midas, Helm of the dominator, linken's, necronomicon and refresher.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 13:31:19
May 19 2015 13:30 GMT
#36447
Isn't soul ring like more efficient gold wise? Beyond mana, what does greaves for him?

Edit: Tinker should be able to rearm refresher. It's so stupid it should be real.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 13:33:17
May 19 2015 13:32 GMT
#36448
Of course soul ring is more gold effecient, but soul ring doesn't supply mana to all your allies as well

I don't think it's worth it though, could be funny to run tinker with soul ring AND guardian greaves though for that 310 mana anytime you cast re-arm, could keep spamming march basically indefinitely with level 1 re-arm

On May 19 2015 22:30 Plansix wrote:
Isn't soul ring like more efficient gold wise? Beyond mana, what does greaves for him?

Edit: Tinker should be able to rearm refresher. It's so stupid it should be real.

Refresher can refresh anything though, so that'd be fucking broken.
Suddenly tinker can indirectly re-arm necrobooks, BKB, midas and so on.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 19 2015 13:38 GMT
#36449
That does make perfect sense and fits with the theme dota. That which sounds super stupid is in fact super OP.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 13:54:16
May 19 2015 13:54 GMT
#36450
Why are indiviudal MMRs so fluctuatingly different at 5k and up. Are there that little 5k players in EU?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 14:32:58
May 19 2015 14:29 GMT
#36451
On May 19 2015 05:51 PassiveAce wrote:
comeh is actually a pretty sunny guy
except when he talks about mason

9 pages later i'm sure this is off topic but mason came on our TS this weekend and complained that I flamed him on TL -_-

I can't even remember the last time I mentioned him
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 19 2015 14:31 GMT
#36452
On May 19 2015 22:54 Torte de Lini wrote:
Why are indiviudal MMRs so fluctuatingly different at 5k and up. Are there that little 5k players in EU?

because a 5k undying picker is about 3k if hed random every game so a 5k that randoms every other game is alot better at dota then the guy that picks undying every game
troll sniper slark etc. u get my drift
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 19 2015 14:34 GMT
#36453
So basically the equivalent of an SC2 player getting to Masters by spamming a blink all in or 6 pool?

Confession: I pick undying against AM, slark or spectre.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 14:36:49
May 19 2015 14:34 GMT
#36454
On May 19 2015 22:30 Plansix wrote:
Isn't soul ring like more efficient gold wise? Beyond mana, what does greaves for him?

Edit: Tinker should be able to rearm refresher. It's so stupid it should be real.

Refreshing Soul Ring doesn't give mana to your whole team.

It's just like how Mana Boots are disabled on Meepo. Yeah he can kinda just send Meepos home for mana in turn, but Mana Boots would let him give a shitton of mana to his whole team.

It's either an oversight or Icefrog felt that 5300 is a good price for that anyway on Tinker--though even so, if that's the case I feel like it should be the same for Meepo. As is Guardian Greaves is disabled for Meepo (IIRC when patch went live even the main Meepo couldn't use it).
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TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
May 19 2015 14:37 GMT
#36455
On May 19 2015 22:38 Plansix wrote:
That does make perfect sense and fits with the theme dota. That which sounds super stupid is in fact super OP.


and what sounds super OP is actually super stupid.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 19 2015 14:39 GMT
#36456
On May 19 2015 23:31 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 22:54 Torte de Lini wrote:
Why are indiviudal MMRs so fluctuatingly different at 5k and up. Are there that little 5k players in EU?

because a 5k undying picker is about 3k if hed random every game so a 5k that randoms every other game is alot better at dota then the guy that picks undying every game
troll sniper slark etc. u get my drift


yeah I got your drift, fuck randomers
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 14:41:14
May 19 2015 14:40 GMT
#36457
random owns
unfortunately compendium 10-hero challenges etc make it less appealing and some stacks complain if u random
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 19 2015 14:42 GMT
#36458
sounds like some people just have inflated ladder mmr and no idea how to play dota
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 19 2015 14:43 GMT
#36459
Random players are total fine if they random first so I can pick around them. Last pick random is dumpster tier shit.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-19 14:44:46
May 19 2015 14:44 GMT
#36460
The passive-aggressive hinting is the saddest shit I've seen recently.
Also, you're all too obsessed with that person's MMR in particular, jesus
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