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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 18 2015 16:57 GMT
#36141
the purge satyr is kind of hard to use tho, that creep has a base ms of 250 or some shit.
I've already tried to make one follow me during fights as a carry enchantress but it was just too slow and too squishy

new chen tweaks fix the latter but unless you pair it with a kobold that satyr is just waytoslow
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Rodrak
Profile Joined October 2013
United States165 Posts
May 18 2015 17:03 GMT
#36142
On May 19 2015 01:57 andyrau wrote:
the purge satyr is kind of hard to use tho, that creep has a base ms of 250 or some shit.
I've already tried to make one follow me during fights as a carry enchantress but it was just too slow and too squishy

new chen tweaks fix the latter but unless you pair it with a kobold that satyr is just waytoslow


It's 330 (Source Liquidpedia) your looking at the mana burn satyr that one has 270 ms.
Basically, it's the same if not faster than most people at low levels.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44292 Posts
May 18 2015 17:09 GMT
#36143
at least 2/5 of my games on SEA involves somebody disconnecting middle or the game or mass drop .. made a huge effort to win the game and we came back from the deficit suddenly everybody dropped from the game and boom when we came back it was "safe to leave." "not recorded"

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this is a quote
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 18 2015 17:16 GMT
#36144
On May 19 2015 02:03 Rodrak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 01:57 andyrau wrote:
the purge satyr is kind of hard to use tho, that creep has a base ms of 250 or some shit.
I've already tried to make one follow me during fights as a carry enchantress but it was just too slow and too squishy

new chen tweaks fix the latter but unless you pair it with a kobold that satyr is just waytoslow


It's 330 (Source Liquidpedia) your looking at the mana burn satyr that one has 270 ms.
Basically, it's the same if not faster than most people at low levels.

it felt way slower late game idk
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Rodrak
Profile Joined October 2013
United States165 Posts
May 18 2015 17:34 GMT
#36145
On May 19 2015 02:16 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 02:03 Rodrak wrote:
On May 19 2015 01:57 andyrau wrote:
the purge satyr is kind of hard to use tho, that creep has a base ms of 250 or some shit.
I've already tried to make one follow me during fights as a carry enchantress but it was just too slow and too squishy

new chen tweaks fix the latter but unless you pair it with a kobold that satyr is just waytoslow


It's 330 (Source Liquidpedia) your looking at the mana burn satyr that one has 270 ms.
Basically, it's the same if not faster than most people at low levels.

it felt way slower late game idk


I feel it is useful early game, late game it's not good.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 17:37:21
May 18 2015 17:36 GMT
#36146
hey man that creep will move fast when you have a kobol taskmaster running around with 1000 hp man that creep is GOOD

this has to be the most ridiculous model in dota though
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 17:37:35
May 18 2015 17:37 GMT
#36147
On May 19 2015 02:34 Rodrak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 02:16 andyrau wrote:
On May 19 2015 02:03 Rodrak wrote:
On May 19 2015 01:57 andyrau wrote:
the purge satyr is kind of hard to use tho, that creep has a base ms of 250 or some shit.
I've already tried to make one follow me during fights as a carry enchantress but it was just too slow and too squishy

new chen tweaks fix the latter but unless you pair it with a kobold that satyr is just waytoslow


It's 330 (Source Liquidpedia) your looking at the mana burn satyr that one has 270 ms.
Basically, it's the same if not faster than most people at low levels.

it felt way slower late game idk


I feel it is useful early game, late game it's not good.

Can purge hex off allies, purge off all of ursa's self-buffs and remove track 100% of the time with 2 of them.
I don't see how that's not good if you're against enemies where it has its uses, obviously not good against all enemies.

I've already seen chens and other supports buy diffusal just to purge off hex on their carry.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 18 2015 17:39 GMT
#36148
On May 19 2015 02:37 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 02:34 Rodrak wrote:
On May 19 2015 02:16 andyrau wrote:
On May 19 2015 02:03 Rodrak wrote:
On May 19 2015 01:57 andyrau wrote:
the purge satyr is kind of hard to use tho, that creep has a base ms of 250 or some shit.
I've already tried to make one follow me during fights as a carry enchantress but it was just too slow and too squishy

new chen tweaks fix the latter but unless you pair it with a kobold that satyr is just waytoslow


It's 330 (Source Liquidpedia) your looking at the mana burn satyr that one has 270 ms.
Basically, it's the same if not faster than most people at low levels.

it felt way slower late game idk


I feel it is useful early game, late game it's not good.

Can purge hex off allies, purge off all of ursa's self-buffs and remove track 100% of the time with 2 of them.
I don't see how that's not good if you're against enemies where it has its uses, obviously not good against all enemies.

I've already seen chens and other supports buy diffusal just to purge off hex on their carry.

because then you don't have other creeps
SIMPLE AS THAT
would you rather have 4 centaurs or 2cent and 2 satyres?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 17:40:44
May 18 2015 17:40 GMT
#36149
What do you think he's drinking out of that jewel encrusted chalice?
I like to think its malt liquor
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 18 2015 17:40 GMT
#36150
On May 19 2015 02:39 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 02:37 Unleashing wrote:
On May 19 2015 02:34 Rodrak wrote:
On May 19 2015 02:16 andyrau wrote:
On May 19 2015 02:03 Rodrak wrote:
On May 19 2015 01:57 andyrau wrote:
the purge satyr is kind of hard to use tho, that creep has a base ms of 250 or some shit.
I've already tried to make one follow me during fights as a carry enchantress but it was just too slow and too squishy

new chen tweaks fix the latter but unless you pair it with a kobold that satyr is just waytoslow


It's 330 (Source Liquidpedia) your looking at the mana burn satyr that one has 270 ms.
Basically, it's the same if not faster than most people at low levels.

it felt way slower late game idk


I feel it is useful early game, late game it's not good.

Can purge hex off allies, purge off all of ursa's self-buffs and remove track 100% of the time with 2 of them.
I don't see how that's not good if you're against enemies where it has its uses, obviously not good against all enemies.

I've already seen chens and other supports buy diffusal just to purge off hex on their carry.

because then you don't have other creeps
SIMPLE AS THAT
would you rather have 4 centaurs or 2cent and 2 satyres?

Its pretty hard to hold onto 4 cents...and idk at a certain point of the game it might be worth keeping a satyr if a sheepstick is up or something
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 18 2015 17:41 GMT
#36151
On May 19 2015 02:40 PassiveAce wrote:
What do you think he's drinking out of that jewel encrusted chalice?
I like to think its malt liquor

Its obviously blood
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 18 2015 17:42 GMT
#36152
the purge has such a low range that it doesn't actually matters anyway
moot point discussed between players who never played chen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 18 2015 17:43 GMT
#36153
The purge seems like it would only be cool for things like track some other long term debuff. And like Erasme said, you could have 4 centaurs.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 18 2015 17:43 GMT
#36154
On May 19 2015 02:42 Erasme wrote:
the purge has such a low range that it doesn't actually matters anyway
moot point discussed between players who never played chen

I think we can agree
4 speed creeps
need to spread the swag
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 18 2015 17:43 GMT
#36155
Comrh that is cleay not the same chalice. No jewels at all
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 18 2015 17:44 GMT
#36156
On May 19 2015 02:42 Erasme wrote:
the purge has such a low range that it doesn't actually matters anyway
moot point discussed between players who never played chen

Because it's unthinkable to keep the creep near your carry that you're afraid might get jumped?

I mean its cast range is 350 which although lower than diffusal's 600 really isn't that stupidly low.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
May 18 2015 17:44 GMT
#36157
On May 19 2015 02:42 Erasme wrote:
the purge has such a low range that it doesn't actually matters anyway
moot point discussed between players who never played chen


god forbid we theory craft potential uses for creeps with helpful abilities that can now stay alive for longer.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 18 2015 17:46 GMT
#36158
350 is pretty low tbh. Anyone familiar with support kunkka knows how shitty 350 range is
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 18 2015 17:46 GMT
#36159
On May 19 2015 02:44 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2015 02:42 Erasme wrote:
the purge has such a low range that it doesn't actually matters anyway
moot point discussed between players who never played chen

Because it's unthinkable to keep the creep near your carry that you're afraid might get jumped?

I mean its cast range is 350 which although lower than diffusal's 600 really isn't that stupidly low.

and by the time you walk up to the carry or even react, he got stunned by something else and is dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 17:50:06
May 18 2015 17:49 GMT
#36160
The satyr has a 330 move speed. Which is CM with brown boots. The creep is slow as fuck. The speed aura sounds more viable with some centaurs.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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