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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 13 2015 13:54 GMT
#34621
Cool down reduction on that hero seems awesome. The more illusions you can make, the better.

I like how octarine is such a niche item that is only good on a few couple of heroes. I had concerns it was going to be standard when it first arrived.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
May 13 2015 14:00 GMT
#34622
On May 13 2015 20:46 goody153 wrote:
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On May 13 2015 20:09 dismiss wrote:
Dattish is a dog eater too, the hate for chinamannens is basically a genetic trait for him at this point, don't be too harsh. D:

speaking of dog as a food

i know people who would cook and eat dogs here .. well actually dogeating is acceptable here but i can never do that (unless i'm in a post-apocalyptic scenario or some really desperate situation where my survival depends on eating a dog) i've always had a dog as a pet my entire life it just feels too weird and wrong for me

i can't even eat a chicken that we took care off .. feels like i'm eating myself



I ate dog when I was in Korea back in like 2002. Its weird when you think about it, but actually pretty tasty when you don't.
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7754 Posts
May 13 2015 14:03 GMT
#34623
I've heard the Chinese beat the dogs with sticks before killing them so that the meat is more tender. That's fucked up.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
May 13 2015 14:06 GMT
#34624
I think the disgust over dog meat is pretty hypocritical. Even if you bring up the argument that "dogs are man's best friend" I can look up evidence that shows pigs are just as intelligent and aware as dogs, or how chickens and cows all create social connections and clearly demonstrate emotions. Now I know a lot of the campaign against dogs is against their cruel harvesting but I still see a lot of people who get emotional over dog meat and I really fail to see a difference between a dog life and any other animal you eat. Just goes to show you how much cultural and socio-economic situations can shape how people view things rather than some objective sense of what is right or wrong about food.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 14:08:43
May 13 2015 14:06 GMT
#34625
smart people don't believe everything they hear.

as for eating dogs. wtf is the difference from eating other mass farm raised animals? besides the mental barrier. cuz i mean some people have teacup pigs for pets does that mean they dont eat pork? btw pigs are smarter than dogs and they are very loyal too.

ive tried dog meat, didnt like it. i prefer lamb.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
May 13 2015 14:07 GMT
#34626
On May 13 2015 23:03 PoulsenB wrote:
I've heard the Chinese beat the dogs with sticks before killing them so that the meat is more tender. That's fucked up.


Dog consumption has gone way down in China in the last few years though.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44292 Posts
May 13 2015 14:11 GMT
#34627
On May 13 2015 22:54 Plansix wrote:
Cool down reduction on that hero seems awesome. The more illusions you can make, the better.

I like how octarine is such a niche item that is only good on a few couple of heroes. I had concerns it was going to be standard when it first arrived.

it's too expensive and it only gives int as stats which limits it on many heroes

but it's pretty good on naga .. i basically threw naga illusions non-stop and the fat axe can't even kill them during the call duration which was funny so i can just make them continue their one true job to splitpush and creepskip and they just gain hp again

On May 13 2015 23:00 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 20:46 goody153 wrote:
On May 13 2015 20:09 dismiss wrote:
Dattish is a dog eater too, the hate for chinamannens is basically a genetic trait for him at this point, don't be too harsh. D:

speaking of dog as a food

i know people who would cook and eat dogs here .. well actually dogeating is acceptable here but i can never do that (unless i'm in a post-apocalyptic scenario or some really desperate situation where my survival depends on eating a dog) i've always had a dog as a pet my entire life it just feels too weird and wrong for me

i can't even eat a chicken that we took care off .. feels like i'm eating myself



I ate dog when I was in Korea back in like 2002. Its weird when you think about it, but actually pretty tasty when you don't.

that's what they said too.. actually it has something to do with not being able to eat something that i've become fond of

like the chicken we took care the trick that my family does is just never let me know that it was the chicken we took care off that we are eating or even just a egg produced by the chicken we are raising it feels so wrong eating it(although i still eat it) .. it just feels so wrong when i eat something that we took care idk feels like madness lol i'm probably too irrational at this stuff .. even if the dog i'm about to eat is not the the one we have raised it just feels so wrong

no i'm going vegeterian route cause if it's not a dog or something we are the ones who took care of then i love eating mate

i guess i can never take care an animal farm without starving to death
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44292 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 14:13:33
May 13 2015 14:12 GMT
#34628
it probably has something to do that my whole life i always had a dog as pet .. so become irrational when it comes to this stuff and i just feel disgust toward eating a dog lol hmm the best i can explain it is that it feels like i'm eating my own feels whenever i try to think about doing the act
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 13 2015 14:14 GMT
#34629
On May 13 2015 23:06 HighTimeDotA wrote:
smart people don't believe everything they hear.

as for eating dogs. wtf is the difference from eating other mass farm raised animals? besides the mental barrier. cuz i mean some people have teacup pigs for pets does that mean they dont eat pork? btw pigs are smarter than dogs and they are very loyal too.

ive tried dog meat, didnt like it. i prefer lamb.

Pigs are adorable, smart and fun animals to own. They also taste good. Cows can be sweet too. Also good to eat. Goats are 50/50 and some of them are straight up assholes.

Chickens are the fucking devil.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44292 Posts
May 13 2015 14:15 GMT
#34630
Goats are EZiest to raise from what my neighbors tell me
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7754 Posts
May 13 2015 14:16 GMT
#34631
On May 13 2015 23:07 Loanshark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 23:03 PoulsenB wrote:
I've heard the Chinese beat the dogs with sticks before killing them so that the meat is more tender. That's fucked up.


Dog consumption has gone way down in China in the last few years though.


Huh. Curious. On the other hand, even in Europe people do horrible things to animals they eat (like force-feeding geese to fatten them, or the halal slaughter of cows), so I guess we shouldn't judge anyone too harshly.

I think that if given an opportunity, I would try dog meat, just to see how it tastes like.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 14:19:37
May 13 2015 14:18 GMT
#34632
theres a video somewhere of the south park guys feeding bacon to a pig irl. im gonna look for it
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
May 13 2015 14:19 GMT
#34633
Dog meat in general is still a very niche meat across Asia unless it is a rural region or a place that is devoid of other sources of animal protein. I guess that adds to the mystique of it when it is a rarely consumed meat or is seen as some poor people desperation meat of sorts.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 13 2015 14:21 GMT
#34634
blech talking about eating dog just makes me squeamish
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 13 2015 14:22 GMT
#34635
On May 13 2015 23:15 goody153 wrote:
Goats are EZiest to raise from what my neighbors tell me

We dreaded feeding the goats when I was little(9 or so). There were a couple of them, including this one male, that were real jerks and would knock us over because we were so small. They knew they couldn't do it to adults, so they would just fuck with us because they could. I fucked hated feeding them. But any animal can be rough when you’re a small kid.

Chickens are evil though, never feel bad about eating them.
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HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
May 13 2015 14:35 GMT
#34636


watched the whole food inc. documentary in nutrition class. had a chicken mesquite afterwards cuz who gives a shit. the girls in that class though, some probably became vegetarians for atleast a while lol.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 14:38:22
May 13 2015 14:36 GMT
#34637
On May 13 2015 23:06 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I think the disgust over dog meat is pretty hypocritical. Even if you bring up the argument that "dogs are man's best friend" I can look up evidence that shows pigs are just as intelligent and aware as dogs, or how chickens and cows all create social connections and clearly demonstrate emotions. Now I know a lot of the campaign against dogs is against their cruel harvesting but I still see a lot of people who get emotional over dog meat and I really fail to see a difference between a dog life and any other animal you eat. Just goes to show you how much cultural and socio-economic situations can shape how people view things rather than some objective sense of what is right or wrong about food.

If people assigned the same value to each animal's life and wellbeing then even vegetarians and vegans wouldn't be able to function.
Just plowing a single field kills millions of animals.

Different animals are simply assigned different 'values' to different people. Personally i wouldn't want to eat dog or cat myself but it's not so much because i think a cat or a dog's life are worth more, the idea of eating either of those two just doesn't sit right with me. I'm not going to judge people that eat them however.
I grew up in the country side and i got to name my grandparents chickens for example and then i got to see them be beheaded and plucked and then i'd get to eat them. So for me it's not even related to having known/caring about the specific animal, it's kind of hard to explain why i'd be so against personally eating cat or dog.

It's a weird thing really.

I wouldn't have any problems eating a pig i had raised and cared for either.
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7754 Posts
May 13 2015 14:36 GMT
#34638
My grandma lives in the country and keeps several chickens, once they caught a meter-long snake, killed it, and ate it, just like that.

So yeah, chickens are evil.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 14:38:53
May 13 2015 14:38 GMT
#34639
Orwell wrote a good essay about the strange ways humans value life
http://www.george-orwell.org/Marrakech/0.html
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44292 Posts
May 13 2015 14:39 GMT
#34640
On May 13 2015 23:36 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 23:06 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I think the disgust over dog meat is pretty hypocritical. Even if you bring up the argument that "dogs are man's best friend" I can look up evidence that shows pigs are just as intelligent and aware as dogs, or how chickens and cows all create social connections and clearly demonstrate emotions. Now I know a lot of the campaign against dogs is against their cruel harvesting but I still see a lot of people who get emotional over dog meat and I really fail to see a difference between a dog life and any other animal you eat. Just goes to show you how much cultural and socio-economic situations can shape how people view things rather than some objective sense of what is right or wrong about food.

If people assigned the same value to each animal's life and wellbeing then even vegetarians and vegans wouldn't be able to function.
Just plowing a single field kills millions of animals.

Different animals are simply assigned different 'values' to different people. Personally i wouldn't want to eat dog or cat myself but it's not so much because i think a cat or a dog's life are worth more, the idea of eating either of those two just doesn't sit right with me. I'm not going to judge people that eat them however.
I grew up in the country side and i got to name my grandparents chickens for example and then i got to see them be beheaded and plucked and then i'd get to eat them. So for me it's not even related to having known/caring about the specific animal, it's kind of hard to explain why i'd be so against personally eating cat or dog.

It's a weird thing really.

yey thank you for explaining that's pretty much it

On May 13 2015 23:36 PoulsenB wrote:
My grandma lives in the country and keeps several chickens, once they caught a meter-long snake, killed it, and ate it, just like that.

So yeah, chickens are evil.

snakes however i wanna try to eat one

i'm sure the ones we catch that gets inside the house a couple of times can't be eaten

On May 13 2015 23:22 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 23:15 goody153 wrote:
Goats are EZiest to raise from what my neighbors tell me

We dreaded feeding the goats when I was little(9 or so). There were a couple of them, including this one male, that were real jerks and would knock us over because we were so small. They knew they couldn't do it to adults, so they would just fuck with us because they could. I fucked hated feeding them. But any animal can be rough when you’re a small kid.

Chickens are evil though, never feel bad about eating them.

Yeah goats kinda make fun of us by trying to horn us ... but you can just push him back and make fun of goats equally

now i'm curious what made you hate chickens lol
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