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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 08 2015 17:19 GMT
#33321
gl macdonald!
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 08 2015 17:20 GMT
#33322
ok well i looked up some rudimentary regulations for chinese taxes

in china, dividends, royalties, and other miscellaneous income is taxed at a flat 20% rate
for us taxes on foreign income, you can either choose to take either an itemized deduction or a tax credit. the itemized deduction reduces overall taxable income and a credit reduces the amount of taxes you pay.

either way getting taxed twice isn't a big deal as the irs seems pretty soft on that. so i don't really get the eg situation unless there's difficulty in transferring money out of the country as I know there's a restriction of something like 50k outbound wiring but idk if that applies to foreigners.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 08 2015 17:23 GMT
#33323
clearly EG's hold up is transfering Chinese money to Sumail's family as they're flagged on NSA super list of anti-fun terrorism response squadron delta force 17 because they're from Pakistan. Duh.
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
May 08 2015 17:25 GMT
#33324
On May 09 2015 02:20 andyrau wrote:
ok well i looked up some rudimentary regulations for chinese taxes

in china, dividends, royalties, and other miscellaneous income is taxed at a flat 20% rate
for us taxes on foreign income, you can either choose to take either an itemized deduction or a tax credit. the itemized deduction reduces overall taxable income and a credit reduces the amount of taxes you pay.

either way getting taxed twice isn't a big deal as the irs seems pretty soft on that. so i don't really get the eg situation unless there's difficulty in transferring money out of the country as I know there's a restriction of something like 50k outbound wiring but idk if that applies to foreigners.


GGA is going to take a cut of the winnings too which probably makes it more complicated. And PW might be paying GGA directly instead of the players directly
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 08 2015 17:28 GMT
#33325
Either way it will probally end up being less taxes than just being swedish.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 08 2015 17:33 GMT
#33326
Yeah, its never the crazy amount people are talking about when they say "3 million prize pool". Its money I would love. But its to like any EG player is set for life on that money.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-08 17:54:54
May 08 2015 17:53 GMT
#33327
well assuming gga wants the best for their players, they'd have DAC pay the players themselves while acting as a middleman and not an employer.
after players are paid does the organization take their cut; this way we avoid triple taxation of the overall prize pool.

assuming gga is nice to players, then
chinese taxes: 1.3m * .8 = 1.04m

if im remembering right gga has always taken 20% of prize money
so 1.04m * .8 = .832m
.832m / 5 = .1664m per person

1099 misc income is taxed at 15% and an additional 9% past a certain threshold (150k or some shit), something which I'm sure eg players will surpass this year
so that's 24%

166.4k * .76 = ~126.5k is their total winnings from DAC, but I'm sure it's closer to 130-140k after proper deductions.

worst case, if gga treats their players like employees and pays out DAC earnings as a bonus on their w2 then each respective player would get even less. somewhere around 100k if I had to guess.


taxes are fun ok
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actually i was just really really curious how much they'd make



oh actually i just realized they might have to divide by 6 cause of fucking charlie rip
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 08 2015 17:58 GMT
#33328
The problem is not just this batch of money - since EG plans on top3 TI with a projected at least another 200K per person it behooves them to find a way to get money to players without having to deal with the 300k+ tax bracket
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-08 18:01:33
May 08 2015 18:00 GMT
#33329
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Holy fuck so good

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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-08 18:01:23
May 08 2015 18:01 GMT
#33330
On May 09 2015 02:58 Kupon3ss wrote:
The problem is not just this batch of money - since EG plans on top3 TI with a projected at least another 200K per person it behooves them to find a way to get money to players without having to deal with the 300k+ tax bracket

I'm not too learned, but how would that even be possible? How could you possibly not declare this as income?

more importantly, why shouldn't they pay these taxes?
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 08 2015 18:01 GMT
#33331
wat
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-08 18:05:24
May 08 2015 18:01 GMT
#33332
I didn't even think of that. The 300K tax bracket is a disaster.

Comeh: Its when you start paying a lot more state and federal taxes if you salary is that high. The players don't want that because its not annual earning, since its not real salary.
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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
May 08 2015 18:03 GMT
#33333
wow im so popular today

i am 5.1k you fucks
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 08 2015 18:03 GMT
#33334
see told u he claims 5k
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-08 18:04:52
May 08 2015 18:04 GMT
#33335
isnt the highest US income tax bracket something like 40%?
pretty low compared to a lot of nations
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 08 2015 18:06 GMT
#33336
On May 09 2015 03:04 PassiveAce wrote:
isnt the highest US income tax bracket something like 40%?
pretty low compared to a lot of nations

You also get fewer services, like state paid for college. So not reason to pay more than you have to.
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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-08 18:09:27
May 08 2015 18:08 GMT
#33337
my most recent account

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/226213697

last game included the illustrious whitebeard

yes i am a bad storm spirit palyer
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 08 2015 18:09 GMT
#33338
On May 09 2015 03:03 l3loodraven wrote:
wow im so popular today

i am 5.1k you fucks

yeah you're not
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 08 2015 18:10 GMT
#33339
whitebeard sux i've played with that guy
ur most recent account has 27 games played and hasn't played in 2 months lel
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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
May 08 2015 18:10 GMT
#33340
im on a break
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